I haven't read the full 6,000 pages but, apparently, American "torture" was not effective in getting useful info. It's obvious that Americans don't know how to torture as anybody who studied WW II knows that the Nazi use of torture produced lots of useful info for them.
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American Torture
- Thread starter SkyRider
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I asked my friend, the highly decorated retired republican senator, what he thought about the CIA torturing. His answer: "It is the dumbest thing we have ever done"
Hmmm America has done so many dumb things, I don't think this is even top ten.
Absolutely, these are nice people we captured. The smart thing should have been to put them in a 5 star hotel or released to their families and friends.I asked my friend, the highly decorated retired republican senator, what he thought about the CIA torturing. His answer: "It is the dumbest thing we have ever done"
Releasing this report is definitely a dumb thing. It's all political theater by President Obama and the Democrats. I seem to remember President Obama had previously said that he would never use information obtained through "torture" to save innocent lives. I wonder if he would allow Michelle and his daughters to die so he could feel "morally superior".Hmmm America has done so many dumb things, I don't think this is even top ten.
Releasing this report is definitely a dumb thing. It's all political theater by President Obama and the Democrats. I seem to remember President Obama had previously said that he would never use information obtained through "torture" to save innocent lives. I wonder if he would allow Michelle and his daughters to die so he could feel "morally superior".
He has said a lot of things and not followed through. I'm not sure anyone coming out of that office feels morally superior, they filter a lot of shit through the White House.
Absolutely, these are nice people we captured. The smart thing should have been to put them in a 5 star hotel or released to their families and friends.
I guess it's too complicated for you to understand. This means that any American soldier or civilian can be expected the same treatment should they have the unfortunate luck of being captured in combat or even on vacation. It also throws out any discussion of America having the moral high ground. The entire planet will watch and see how this is handled. And deal with it accordingly.
BS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNAjkeEgNPk#t=25I wait patiently for one of America's enemies to release a similar self critical support in their open and responsive democracy.
I wait patiently for one of America's enemies to release a similar self critical support in their open and responsive democracy.
Enemies? The USA used Syria as a torture chamber and actually flew a Canadian there against his will for torture and possibly execution.
that is not hearsay dan, that is non-responsive.
Enemies? The USA used Syria as a torture chamber and actually flew a Canadian there against his will for torture and possibly execution.
Dodge the question much?
Dodge the question much?
So you say that being better then Syria all those dirtbag countries is high moral ground? What is to prevent this from happening again? Kinda like a catholic confession, 2 our fathers, 3 hail marys and you can break out the 'ol waterboard again. What about that evil POS John Yoo the lawyer that redefined and enable torture. A guy at the very highest levels in your profession that gave his legal blessing to this evil. Was he sanctioned in any way? What does it say about your profession when people at its highest levels exhibit the moral compass of a 7 year old?
What does it say about your profession when people at its highest levels exhibit the moral compass of a 7 year old?
What does it say about the profession when people at its highest levels exhibit the moral compass of a 7 year old and are defended by others? Answer: They are scumbags.
So you say that being better then Syria all those dirtbag countries is high moral ground? What is to prevent this from happening again? Kinda like a catholic confession, 2 our fathers, 3 hail marys and you can break out the 'ol waterboard again. What about that evil POS John Yoo the lawyer that redefined and enable torture. A guy at the very highest levels in your profession that gave his legal blessing to this evil. Was he sanctioned in any way? What does it say about your profession when people at its highest levels exhibit the moral compass of a 7 year old?
Still dodging the question.
But since I am not a chicken shit, I am happy to answer your points.
I think the enhanced interrogation techniques (most of them anyways) were unlawful and immoral. I have always thought that.
I am pleased that the media in the United States was free to call them out on these issues and I am also pleased that a report of this nature was compiled and made public. Those are very hopeful and positive signs. They don't happen in the vast majority of places in the world, and it shows the US is functioning pretty well as a democracy. Under what they viewed as extreme pressure and threat, they made errors, and are now discussing them in public. The regime that made those errors is now gone.
The comment about my profession is just childish baiting on your part. The guy who wrote the cover memo is not "at the very highest levels" at all. But being uniformed you would not know that.
What does it say about the profession when people at its highest levels exhibit the moral compass of a 7 year old and are defended by others? Answer: They are scumbags.
So now your alleged daughter is a scumbag dan? That is a tad harsh don't you think?
So now your alleged daughter is a scumbag dan? That is a tad harsh don't you think?
She is not a follower like you are.
Yeah, ISIS said they will behead any American they kidnap because of this report.This means that any American soldier or civilian can be expected the same treatment should they have the unfortunate luck of being captured in combat or even on vacation.
BTW: Turkey, that bastion of human rights, has join North Korea and the PRC in criticizing the U.S.' s "massive" violation of human rights. Talk about people in glass houses. Hey Turkey, stop supporting ISIS and killing the Kurds.
