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Insidious Von

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Gordon Gekko got it wrong.

Sometimes greed isn't good, Federico Macheda is proof of that. I remember all the teeth gnashing that went on when he got poached by ManU, in the long run his career has been stunted. Getting marked out of the match by a semi-fit Michel Ciani adds to his misery. Not to mention his disastrous loan at Sampdoria which saw him blanked and the club relegated. Antonio Macheda took the money and ran, unfortunate if he had stayed with Lazio he could have become a star by now.
 

Insidious Von

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Silly ManU wanker.

Stefano Fiore, Pavel Nedved, Roberto Di Matteo...and more recently Lois Cavanda and Antonio Candreva. Anything else?

I would love to see Mattia De Sciglio play against Barcelona, but I can understand why Allegri may not use him. He has great pace and can cross it like Beckham, but he's still a teenager and his defensive game is a work in progress.

http://www.goal.com/en/people/italy/56340/mattia-de-sciglio
 

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Last but not least, it was to send a message to Rooney. No one is bigger than the team. Better get in line quickly or face the axe.
This reminds me of the last appearance in the champions league of David Beckham on 23 April 2003, where he was dropped out of the starting 11. Then he got called on to replace Juan Sebastian Veron if i'm not mistaking around the 60mins. He came in scored two goals with his amazing trademark Freekick. 2 months later he was sold to none other than The Meringues.

Going back to your point: "No one is bigger than the team. Better get in line quickly or face the axe (SAF)"
 

Insidious Von

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Stefano Fiore > Paul Scholes

The only player that is irrefutable on that list is Ryan Giggs.

From 1998 - 2001, Stefano Fiore was the most versatile midfielder of his day, notice how ordinary JS Veron looked when he got to Old Trafford. The Englishman has been much more durable, injuries cut short Fiore's career. As for Beckham, he was never a leader. If he had Lothar Matthaus's heart within him England would , at the very least, have reached the final of Mexico02 and Portugal04.

Lazio is still in the running for the Europa Cup, unlike ManU they do not lose their nerve a man down.

Anything else?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0w50T70ylY
 

scouser1

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Pickering
David de Gea-Atletico Madrid, da Silvia-Fluminese, Phil Jones-Blackburn, so of the first 3 players you named not a single one came up through Man Utd's youth system, now whose credibility is in question hmm?
 

Insidious Von

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lol...gotta love the passion.

I would say that Schmeichel, Stam and the unjustly forgotten Sheringham had more to to with the success of 1999.

You left few items out about Fiore. He help guide Lazio to the scudetto in 2000 (coached by Sven-Goran Erikkson and his player/assistant Roberto Mancini) and played a crucial role in the Azzurri getting to the Final of Euro 2000 ( something the 3 Lions have noticeably failed to do). Primarily a holding midfielder he raised his game after Captain Antonio Conte got spiked out of the tournament. Not a natural goal scorer but he knew how to do "the little things" that allowed his clubs to win. Scholes has had better talent around him and doesn't have a brittle body.

Btw, Roman Abramovich wants Antonio Conte to coach Chelsea next season. I'm sure Tony is thrilled at the prospect of becoming another fly-by-night coach.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0Y0CG1Q9cU
 

trod

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My god what an awful second half performance by Man Utd.

Credit to Chelsea for taking advantage of our shit play. De Gea kept us in the match, especially with that Mata save at the end.
 

Don Draper

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So why is Victor Valdes adamant on leaving Barcelona? Maybe DonD can enlighten us but, from my perspective, it makes no sense.
Victor has made no actual statement about leaving Camp Nou other than to say he would like to absorb 'Otros Paises' (Other Cultures/Countries). IMHO, everyone refers to the Blaugrana as a 'MessiPuyolXaviIniesta' tandem and never mention him although he is every bit as much of the core fabric as the others mentioned. A product of l'Hospitalet, I'm sure he wants to reach as far as he can go.

quite a day at camp nou thus far
A refreshed Barca came out fighting and showed the world what they can do. I had a particular favorite moment of the match and it didn't have to do with any goals and it's rather difficult to explain but the end result is what matters.

Visca el Barca!!
 

Insidious Von

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Congratulations Don on a well deserved victory.

Once Pazzini went down it was a foregone conclusion. Boateng doesn't have the same junkyard dog mentality and El Shaaraway and Niang showed their inexperience. Savour the victory Don, it may be a long time before Barca beats Milan again.
 

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So, no EPL teams in UCL anymore?

Arsenal played their hearts out. Wenger still has and always will have all my respect.
they're still lacking a tough holding defensive midfielder....like Viera used to be...Arteta looked weak and the last two fouls took away any chance of drawing...imho.
 

Insidious Von

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If you didn't watch this match you missed the game of the year.

Obviously someone is blowing smoke, I saw no such crowd trouble. The abuse thrown Balotelli's way during thew derby was much more intense. If there were problems, I didn't see any, then let UEFA deal with it. Typical English hypocrisy, the English Disease was contagious and it will take years if not decades to stamp out. Unfortunately shit happens, the FIGC is doing what it can.
 

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