All Possible Combinations
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Correct. Or, to put it in perspective, once in 134,460 years (104 draws/year, one line). Here is more info:theres 13 983 816 combinations with 649
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lotto_Math
That I knew. Is there a way to get them on a spreadsheet?theres 13 983 816 combinations with 649
Yes..there are some DOS programs that will do that:That I knew. Is there a way to get them on a spreadsheet?
http://igamingforums.com/iGaming/OnLottoWheelingSaliu/zwwrx/post.htm
Wheel6.exe (part of the Bright6.exe package).
The procedure.
1) I generated all 13983816 6-49 lotto combosnations to a file andthen I shuffled (randomized) it. I uploaded both files to the members- only area of my site:
http://saliu.com/code/CombosLotto.649 (=93All lotto 6-49 combosnations=94 =3D 340 MB)
http://saliu.com/code/SIM-6 (=93All lotto 6-49 combinations: Shuffled to SIM-6=94 =3D 326 MB)
You need a paid membership to Saliu's site to use them. I have one..
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Thanks FZ. A PM would be appreciated.Yes..there are some DOS programs that will do that:
http://igamingforums.com/iGaming/OnLottoWheelingSaliu/zwwrx/post.htm
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You need a paid membership to Saliu's site to use them. I have one..
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Actually, all the 649 combinations ( including the one that will play tomorrow ..LOL) are not accessible from the non-member areaThanks FZ. A PM would be appreciated.
http://saliu.com/code/CombosLotto.649
but check you PM
ps: you will need a SuperComputer to navigate the file
I haven't done the math, but it will probably take a few weeks to print all those tickets! Just did the math for 14,000,000. Looks like 162 days at 1 per second. If you had 162 people willing to stand around at 162 machines for 1 day you might have a shot. Let's do it!!14 million combos would make it viable to play every set in a big enough jackpot.
Just a visualization of all the combinations. 'IF' one was to take the time, he/she could eliminate many combos, thereby lessing those which one would play. Believe me, I don't have any plans to play them all (that would never work or it would have been done already), just 'my way' of picking combinations rather than creating combinations by picking numbers.What would such a file accomplish? Just curious...
Absolutely nothing, since there is no connection between past and future, and the probability of any combination is the same.What would such a file accomplish? Just curious...
Correction - perhaps what it could accomplish is to get you to spend more money because you have a 'system'. Casinos love people who have systems.
Ha! Definite proof that lotteries are a tax for people who are bad at math.Just a visualization of all the combinations. 'IF' one was to take the time, he/she could eliminate many combos, thereby lessing those which one would play. Believe me, I don't have any plans to play them all (that would never work or it would have been done already), just 'my way' of picking combinations rather than creating combinations by picking numbers.
Even if you only bought a 1/4 of the all the combinations it would still cost $7,000,000 and your chances would be 1 in 4 of winning. It would also be physically impossible to buy them all. Say you buy 20 $2 quickpicks on a ticket, that would be 350,000 tickets and say it takes 10 seconds for each ticket to print, thats 972 hours or 40 24 hour days to buy them all!!!!
I'm quite good at math, but your reading comprehension needs work. Or I assume you missed the part where I said that it, "would never work or it would have been done already". Just saying...Ha! Definite proof that lotteries are a tax for people who are bad at math.
Even if you only bought a 1/4 of the all the combinations it would still cost $7,000,000 and your chances would be 1 in 4 of winning. It would also be physically impossible to buy them all. Say you buy 20 $2 quickpicks on a ticket, that would be 350,000 tickets and say it takes 10 seconds for each ticket to print, thats 972 hours or 40 24 hour days to buy them all!!!!
Wow.. Lol.. did you guys read Toke's post. He just needs a file from which to select numbers. Everyone has a different way of playing the lottery - whether it's a quick- pick or some type of system it does not change the fact the lottery is random. Btw the probability of winning actually improves with the number of tickets purchased that is why many jackpots are won by groups of players with bigger lotto budgetsAbsolutely nothing, since there is no connection between past and future, and the probability of any combination is the same.
Correction - perhaps what it could accomplish is to get you to spend more money because you have a 'system'. Casinos love people who have systems.
http://www.boston.com/news/local/ma..._with_a_windfall_for_a_knowing_few/?page=full
http://www.businessinsider.com/how-to-win-the-massachusetts-state-lottery-every-three-months-2011-8
They`re so quick to state the obvious (that the lottery is a gamble rather than an investment) and offer information that is widely known (that no system works or else everyone would win). I`ll just say this to the `mathematicians; read post #22. https://terb.cc/vbulletin/showthrea...-649-what-lottery-do-you-suggest-I-play/page2Wow.. Lol.. did you guys read Toke`s post. He just needs a file from which to select numbers. Everyone has a different way of playing the lottery - whether it`s a quick- pick or some type of system it does not change the fact the lottery is random. Btw the probability of winning actually improves with the number of tickets purchased that is why many jackpots are won by groups of players with bigger lotto budgets
http://www.boston.com/news/local/ma..._with_a_windfall_for_a_knowing_few/?page=full
http://www.businessinsider.com/how-to-win-the-massachusetts-state-lottery-every-three-months-2011-8
BTW, `Fonzi` we already went through this in the posted thread. I guess `insatiable` was the right word in your case. Just can`t help stating the off-topic-obvious. Move on troll.
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Correct.theres 13 983 816 combinations with 649
Even if it were practical, I doubt any speadsheet program could hold or generate ~14 million lines of data.Is there a way to get them on a spreadsheet?
A calculator that performs statistical functions and has a 'nCr' key will compute only the total number of possible combinations (r=6, n=49). I have statistical software that can run all possible iterations (outcomes), but the process is time consuming and the output of little practical value.
Assuming all outcomes are independent, the probability of winning 6/49 on a single ticket is 1/13 983 816. Only guaranteed way to win? Play all 14 million possible combinations.
Best strategy: Pick 6 numbers (or several sets of 6), and play the same numbers every week. It may take millions of trials (i.e. weekly draws), but, eventually, your combination(s) has to come up, since every outcome has equal probability of occurence. Fools who 'quick pick' every week are really wasting their money.
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Finally a mathematician POV that makes sense. Sure it is of little value or practical use to have such a spreadsheet, but what s the harm in asking/having all the outcomes. I agree that QPs are wasteful (in theory) as it mirrors the act of finding a needle in a hay-stack in which after each 'guess' the hay is tumbled; re-positioning the needle. In my opinion, by playing the same numbers every draw (which I don't do) will win when the shuffle/tumble places the proverbial needle on your guess.Correct.
Even if it were practical, I doubt any speadsheet program could hold or generate ~14 million lines of data.
A calculator that performs statistical functions and has a 'nCr' key will compute only the total number of possible combinations (r=6, n=49). I have statistical software that can run all possible iterations (outcomes), but the process is time consuming and the output of little practical value.
Assuming all outcomes are independent, the probability of winning 6/49 on a single ticket is 1/13 983 816. Only guaranteed way to win? Play all 14 million possible combinations.
Best strategy. Pick 6 numbers (or several sets of 6), and play the same numbers every week. It may take millions of trials (i.e. weekly draws), but, eventually, your combination(s) has to come up, since every outcome has equal probability of occurence. Fools who 'quick pick' every week are really wasting their money.
IN the end number picking systems do work. They work as long as the individual realizes that the system's positive outcome lies in the process of picking however many numbers for their ticket. But if they think a system exists of picking the winning numbers... See my earlier post.
Correct.
Even if it were practical, I doubt any speadsheet program could hold or generate ~14 million lines of data.
A calculator that performs statistical functions and has a 'nCr' key will compute only the total number of possible combinations (r=6, n=49). I have statistical software that can run all possible iterations (outcomes), but the process is time consuming and the output of little practical value.
Assuming all outcomes are independent, the probability of winning 6/49 on a single ticket is 1/13 983 816. Only guaranteed way to win? Play all 14 million possible combinations.Best strategy. Pick 6 numbers (or several sets of 6), and play the same numbers every week. It may take millions of trials (i.e. weekly draws), but, eventually, your combination(s) has to come up, since every outcome has equal probability of occurence. Fools who 'quick pick' every week are really wasting their money.
Yes, it makes sense that a person can buy all of the possible combinations and, therefore, guarantee a win. However, there is no guarantee the entire pot will be won on just one ticket. What if, in the U.S. case mentioned, there were two winning tickets? Then, the Australian firm would have spent $38 million to win $34 million after taxes.THis was already done in the States....some Australian firm did it and they had a tv show on it....they won the powerball and won $68 million after taxes and annuity but they spent something like $38 million all together so the made 30 million but Google it.
