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Airborne Transmission vs Mask Reliability

modnar0

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Wrong
The correct answer is yes
A mask does protect a person better, if everyone wears a mask the threat of the exposure to the Coronavirus is significantly lower. I can tell you again how but since it's been repeated to you numerous times and you still haven't understood how this is done I don't think you can or will understand it this time.
Never ceases to amaze me how independent thinking is completely dead. Do we really need some bureaucrats and actors (aka newscasters) in mainstream media to explain the obvious fallacy:

And now our Chief Medical Officer of Sickness (unelected by the way), is rethinking Canada's position on masks.

Masks do work by keeping the face warm during cold days. Just like a scarf. Don't think we need a study on this one.
 
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lenny2

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Never ceases to amaze me how independent thinking is completely dead. Do we really need some bureaucrats and actors (aka newscasters) in mainstream media to explain the obvious fallacy:

And now our Chief Medical Officer of Sickness (unelected by the way), is rethinking Canada's position on masks.

Masks do work by keeping the face warm during cold days. Just like a scarf. Don't think we need a study on this one.

That's the same idiot video of the OP in this thread where he is thoroughly debunked:

 
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Yawn! I hear crickets and they are probably wearing masks too.
Yawn, I hear the educated non-fear mongering folks with money and friends who care about their friend's businesses pratcise just as much safety measures as you and then some, want life to return.
 

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Why?
A non medical mask does nothing

Again if anyone bothers to read the sourced article which is repeated by WHO; it is NOT just the large droplets that spread the disease
As it is aerosol based the only way your mask works is if you have a filter in it (or unless your mask prevents you from breathing oxygen but that causes another issue with living and all)

Hence a non medical mask does nada
A mask IS a filter.
 
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modnar0

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Ignorance will not save you lol

Google N95 or mask filter if you really are this clueless
Why bother trying to argue with these guys. These guys are shills for mainstream narrative. If they don't hear about it from sources like John Hopkins Uni, CDC, WHO, CNN, they will call you a conspiracy nut. They can't accept that all these for-profit institutions are corrupted - corrupted by the masters they serve. The same masters that fund them.
 

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Why bother trying to argue with these guys. These guys are shills for mainstream narrative. If they don't hear about it from sources like John Hopkins Uni, CDC, WHO, CNN, they will call you a conspiracy nut. They can't accept that all these for-profit institutions are corrupted - corrupted by the masters they serve. The same masters that fund them.
That's the irony; this IS from the WHO (and updated by CDC)
The source article has scientists from multiple international bodies

Even CBC is calling out Health Canada on it as we have not updated our own warnings as quickly as other countries have
 

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Here is an article about this (from CBC quoting WHO, CDC, and Germany + Italy health services)



 

modnar0

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Here is an article about this (from CBC quoting WHO, CDC, and Germany + Italy health services)



These so-called scientists really think we're so stupid. (Well, actually most people are. Remember at least half population has IQ below 100.) Everyone knows how far a sneeze travels. And those droplets are big and guey. Two metres is nothing for a sneeze.

The CBC article actually wrote this nonsense: "It was originally believed the novel coronavirus spread only via large droplets, which fall and settle on the ground within a distance of two metres." Are we to believe a sneeze only travels 2 metres? Are we talking about a field mouse sneezing??
 

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Ignorance will not save you lol

Google N95 or mask filter if you really are this clueless
Point a finger at me, there are three pointing back at you. I know full well how masks works, especially N95 and KN95. Learn some engineering before you spout nonsense. Also, take your own advice about googling.


An N95 mask or N95 respirator is a particulate-filtering facepiece respirator that meets the U.S. National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health (NIOSH) N95 classification of air filtration, meaning that it filters at least 95% of airborne particles.
 
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Ignorance will not save you lol

Google N95 or mask filter if you really are this clueless
You should too if you are under the impression an N95 gives 100% protection. You can start by finding out where they got the number 95 from.

Nothing short of a military enforced 100% worldwide lockdown for a month where all those enforcing it are wearing full hazmat suits will fully shut doiwn spread. Everything else is trying to balance harm reduction with other factors like the economy.
 

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Why bother trying to argue with these guys. These guys are shills for mainstream narrative. If they don't hear about it from sources like John Hopkins Uni, CDC, WHO, CNN, they will call you a conspiracy nut. They can't accept that all these for-profit institutions are corrupted - corrupted by the masters they serve. The same masters that fund them.
No, it's better to listen to a random guy on youtube who clearly doesn't understand what he's talking about.
 

TeeJay

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Point a finger at me, there are three pointing back at you. I know full well how masks works, especially N95 and KN95. Learn some engineering before you spout nonsense.
Then why the nonsense claim above (quoted for posterity up in #24) that all masks are filters?

We both know you look the fool and trying to move the goal posts after the fact with what you say you meant vs what you typed
Move along and give it up

As was stated many times in the past non medical masks do nada
 

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As was stated many times in the past non medical masks do nada
Stating something repeatedly like a self hypnotizing brainwashing mantra does not make it true let alone convince the intelligent.

Why?
A non medical mask does nothing

Again if anyone bothers to read the sourced article which is repeated by WHO; it is NOT just the large droplets that spread the disease
As it is aerosol based the only way your mask works is if you have a filter in it (or unless your mask prevents you from breathing oxygen but that causes another issue with living and all)

Hence a non medical mask does nada

"In a review9 of observational studies, an international research team estimates that surgical and comparable cloth masks are 67% effective in protecting the wearer."



XYZ said:
Masks do not work, at all.

The China virus is WAY too small to be stopped by a mask designed to stop bacteria (like stopping a gnat with a salmon fish net).

Dr. Fauci knows this, by the way.
Wrong. And irrelevant. Back to C-19 preschool with you to learn its ABC's.

"The claim: If masks cannot keep out drywall particles, they cannot keep out coronavirus, which is smaller"

"...Fact check: Masks can keep out COVID-19 particles even though smaller than dry wall dust"

The droplets that carry the viral particles are also larger in size than the virus itself,...

“Many people argue that cloth masks can’t be effective because they can’t filter out viral particles, which are extremely tiny,” she said. “Most of these particles leave the mouth and nose in much larger droplets that become smaller through evaporation as they move away from the body. Trapping droplets with the mask means not nearly as many viral particles escape. So, when all parties in a gathering are wearing well-constructed, well-fitting masks, it provides an extra layer of safety for everyone.”

The COVID-19 particle is indeed around 0.1 microns in size, but it is always bonded to something larger.

“There is never a naked virus floating in the air or released by people,” said Linsey Marr, a professor of civil and environmental engineering at Virginia Tech who specializes in airborne transmission of viruses.

“Breathing and talking generate particles around 1 micron in size, which will be collected by N95 respirator filters with very high efficiency,” said Lisa Brosseau, a retired professor of environmental and occupational health sciences who spent her career researching respiratory protection.

 

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Then why the nonsense claim above (quoted for posterity up in #24) that all masks are filters?

We both know you look the fool and trying to move the goal posts after the fact with what you say you meant vs what you typed
Move along and give it up

As was stated many times in the past non medical masks do nada
What kind of moron are you? Your reading comprehension is obviously very low. Masks ARE filters, that is a technical and scientific fact. See post #30. Don’t waste my time with your verbal diarrhoea. What are your qualifications to assess things such as mask performance?
 

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What kind of moron are you? Your reading comprehension is obviously very low. Masks ARE filters, that is a technical and scientific fact. See post #30. Don’t waste my time with your verbal diarrhoea. What are your qualifications to assess things such as mask performance?
No comment on reading comprehension since this post basically proves what I said
(How can you reference #30 which comes AFTER #24??? Time travel? lol)

Maybe you just fail to grasp how a mask works
I don't know but I doubt you are able to understand

Just for fun if "all masks are filters" as you claim, then why do they SELL filters to use with your mask then?
Or if all masks are created equal why hospital staff don't just use a cloth mask with a cute design on it then?

You are trolling but there is no meat to your argument
 

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Never ceases to amaze me how independent thinking is completely dead. Do we really need some bureaucrats and actors (aka newscasters) in mainstream media to explain the obvious fallacy:

And now our Chief Medical Officer of Sickness (unelected by the way), is rethinking Canada's position on masks.

Masks do work by keeping the face warm during cold days. Just like a scarf. Don't think we need a study on this one.
p.s. The video proves the effectiveness of masks. Instead of the smoke travelling at speed towards other people, it spills out at lower speed around the wearer.
 
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