Air Canada passengers 'abandoned' to deal with delays, cannabis possession...........

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VANCOUVER - More than 200 Air Canada passengers on a flight from Toronto to Vancouver found themselves unexpectedly in Washington State earlier this week, with little help from airline staff as they scrambled to make arrangements and figure out what to do about cannabis products.

Flight AC 125 re-routed to Seattle-Tacoma International Airport late in the evening Sunday after foggy conditions kept it from landing at YVR and other Canadian airports. The airline says a mechanical issue that came up as the 787 Dreamliner was grounded necessitated the removal of passengers from the aircraft altogether.

Harold Wax, a frequent traveler, was on the flight and said passengers began discussing potential issues with customs, considering few passengers were likely to have brought passports or visas for what was scheduled as a domestic flight.

"I said to my neighbour, ‘I wonder how many passengers on this plane have cannabis or CBD on them and weren't anticipating landing in the United States,’ and her eyes literally popped out of her skull and she said ‘I have CBD oil on me for my bad joints,’" Wax told CTV News Vancouver.

While it’s legal for adults to carry up to 30 grams of cannabis in Canada, officials have warned that no one should cross international borders with it, especially to a country like the U.S., where some states have legalized the drug, but the federal policy remains strictly opposed to cannabis.

"They risked lifetime bans from the United States and the only way to overcome that is hundreds of dollars of a special fee each time they seek entry," said Vancouver-based immigration lawyer Richard Kurland.

He believes airlines like Air Canada should do more to protect passengers, suggesting they have an obligation to do so.

“As soon as Air Canada pilots are aware of emergency landing in the United States two things should happen,” said Kurland. “First, they should alert the passengers of an immigration customs search of material in their possession, that will include cannabis. Second thing, keep those washrooms open for as long as possible because people who are in possession of what's legal in Canada have to decide: do I want to risk lifetime ban in the United States, or do I want to just trash my stash?"

"We're on our own"

For Wax, a long-time security consultant, he was more concerned about the lack of support from Air Canada after three hours spent waiting on the tarmac.

“On the plane they're telling us get off the plane, get off, customs and everything will be ok, there'll be someone waiting for you on the other side – but not only is there nobody there, now you're stuck,” he said. “You can't get back through security, there's literally nobody there to help us and we're on our own. It definitely felt an abandonment from Air Canada."

The airline sent an email statement to CTV News, which reads in part: “Air Canada is handled by a partner company in Seattle, and special, exceptional arrangements were immediately made for the U.S. authorities to enable all customers to clear customs without the usual documentation. We were advised there were no issues during the customs clearance process.”

But Air Canada also acknowledges there was only one staffer at the airport to handle baggage, customer service duties and customs issues. It says “they returned to the desk to advise customers that arrangements had been made for people to proceed directly to local hotels where accommodations had been secured. Air Canada agents from YVR were also sent to Seattle to assist customers.”

Wax said passengers had to make their own arrangements and was told by a customer service agent on the phone that they would be reimbursed later.

“I've got the means to fend for myself, but I guarantee there's other people on this plane that either don't have credit cards, don't have money. What are they going to do? You're kind of leaving people in the lurch," he told the agent.

https://bc.ctvnews.ca/air-canada-pa...is-possession-after-diverted-flight-1.4675640
 

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That’s what you get for flying Air Canada.
It’s the whole industry. None of the airlines give the least of a shit about you. The only way they’ll even treat you as remotely human is if you spring for business/first class. They still treat you like cattle, but you get a nicer meal and a bigger chair and they call you “sir”. They don’t give a fuck. What are you going to do, take a boat to Europe or Asia or wherever? They know they can get away with treating you like shit because you have no alternative.
 

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The people in this article are idiots plain and simple

1- traveling without any money or credit cards (lmao) BUT carrying illegal drugs with them
2- plane makes an emergency landing and they are complaining they should be advised and washrooms left open longer to destroy their stashes
 

John Henry

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The people in this article are idiots plain and simple

1- traveling without any money or credit cards (lmao) BUT carrying illegal drugs with them
2- plane makes an emergency landing and they are complaining they should be advised and washrooms left open longer to destroy their stashes

The person calling these people idiots is plain and simple the idiot .

1- who says that all the people are able to have money . They all can't be as rich as you . Same with credit cards . Not everyone is able to have a credit card .

2- illegal drugs ??? where , how . Since when is it illegal to carry cannabis or oil in Canada . These are not illegal drugs . The plane was going to a Canadian city . Do passengers now have to anticipate the weather in another city ?

Not everyone carries a pass port with them on a flight to another Canadian city . So now anyone with no pass port is breaking American laws by entering the US with no pass port .

Gee maybe the Americans shouldn't have let those Canadian criminals into the States . Better yet maybe we shouldn't have let thousands of Americans into Canada when 9/11 happened . You never know what kind of American criminals were on those planes during 9/11 .

No it wasn't an emergency landing . Daaaa ..... Plane was being diverted because of weather .

Mechanical issue came up after the plane had landed so the passengers had to leave the plane .
 

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1- it is beyond ridiculous to leave your home without some form of money in your pocket. I don't care if its plastic or paper. You have to carry something. (Plus the common sense flying to a different city what exactly did these idiots plan on doing? Panhandling once they arrived?)
2- again this is a common sense thing, but even FLYING OVER US AIRSPACE without landing would have made the drugs illegal. Just goes to show the avg mental ability of those on weed.
 

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1- it is beyond ridiculous to leave your home without some form of money in your pocket. I don't care if its plastic or paper. You have to carry something. (Plus the common sense flying to a different city what exactly did these idiots plan on doing? Panhandling once they arrived?)
2- again this is a common sense thing, but even FLYING OVER US AIRSPACE without landing would have made the drugs illegal. Just goes to show the avg mental ability of those on weed.
Non sequitur. You may lack the capacity to argue and it may be sadly not your fault.
 

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1- it is beyond ridiculous to leave your home without some form of money in your pocket. I don't care if its plastic or paper. You have to carry something. (Plus the common sense flying to a different city what exactly did these idiots plan on doing? Panhandling once they arrived?)
2- again this is a common sense thing, but even FLYING OVER US AIRSPACE without landing would have made the drugs illegal. Just goes to show the avg mental ability of those on weed.
1.You're a tad over-judgemental, considering the no credit-cards or cash remark was nothing but a guess from one passenger about how bad it might be for others. Personally, if I was expecting to be met by the family who I'd be staying with in Van, I might well set set out without enough of the ready to cover a hotel, ground transport and several meals in Seattle.

2. How does an ordinary person use their common sense to deduce that a trip from Toronto to Vancouver will be "FLYING OVER US AIRSPACE" at all?
 

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I guess I am a belt and suspenders kind of guy, as I learned a long time ago that when you travel you better be ready for any contingency. Stuff happens all the time which is beyond your control. So, even on domestic flights I travel with passport, licence, credit cards and significant cash.
 

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The person calling these people idiots is plain and simple the idiot .

1- who says that all the people are able to have money . They all can't be as rich as you . Same with credit cards . Not everyone is able to have a credit card .

2- illegal drugs ??? where , how . Since when is it illegal to carry cannabis or oil in Canada . These are not illegal drugs . The plane was going to a Canadian city . Do passengers now have to anticipate the weather in another city ?

Not everyone carries a pass port with them on a flight to another Canadian city . So now anyone with no pass port is breaking American laws by entering the US with no pass port .

Gee maybe the Americans shouldn't have let those Canadian criminals into the States . Better yet maybe we shouldn't have let thousands of Americans into Canada when 9/11 happened . You never know what kind of American criminals were on those planes during 9/11 .

No it wasn't an emergency landing . Daaaa ..... Plane was being diverted because of weather .

Mechanical issue came up after the plane had landed so the passengers had to leave the plane .
Why even bring cannabis products on the plane when there are plenty of shops in Vancouver?

It's true that not everyone has a credit card, but it's not hard at all to get one unless they have serious credit problems.

Getting a passport can be a bit of a hassle especially if you're a new immigrant, but I think you should get one anyway. The cost is insignificant especially if you get the 10 year version.
 

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Thank their stars. If they had landed in Sigapore, Malaysia or Indonesia, they would be facing the death penalty.
 

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So the title of the story is about how passengers had to deal with the issue of cannabis possession in the US, but in the body of the story, the only way this came up is some frequent traveller speculated that it might be an issue. Journalism at its best.
 

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Look an unusual situation happened you landed at the wrong airport in the United States instead of Canada.
If you have marijuana just flush it before you leave the plane. So you lost a little money big deal.
Problem solved.
 

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So the title of the story is about how passengers had to deal with the issue of cannabis possession in the US, but in the body of the story, the only way this came up is some frequent traveller speculated that it might be an issue. Journalism at its best.
The story covered more complexities of being dumped in a foreign country than just cannabis possession, but it clearly stated that at least one passenger said she was carrying; that's why it came up. Reading at its best?
 

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Look an unusual situation happened you landed at the wrong airport in the United States instead of Canada.
If you have marijuana just flush it before you leave the plane. So you lost a little money big deal.
Problem solved.
Except if it is medical. Which would be my issue. If I was travelling to BC for a week, I would be carried at least 16 grams on me. I would not be able to replace the strain I need in any old pot shop.

This is something that would have affected me greatly.
 
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