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Rise in numbers of Pedestrians struck by vehicles...

richaceg

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WTF is going on in TO? It's like everyday someone is going to get hit by a car...I've driven around downtown and north york in the past week and it's a given I've seen a lot of pedestrians are careless when crossing but still...when you're behind the wheel...you have to be very careful.
 

murraywilson

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It's easy to blame the pedestrians who are walking around looking at their phones all of the time. I saw data that showed that most who got hit were 50+ years old. Suggests that it's careless drivers. Older folks might be slow, but were taught to cross on green or at crosswalks.

The worst drivers these days seem to be the ones with Uber/Lyft stickers. They're too busy looking at their GPS screens and don't know the rules of the road. They might be cheaper than cabs, but I don't know why anyone would trust getting in a car with someone who isn't a professional driver.
 

richaceg

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It's easy to blame the pedestrians who are walking around looking at their phones all of the time. I saw data that showed that most who got hit were 50+ years old. Suggests that it's careless drivers. Older folks might be slow, but were taught to cross on green or at crosswalks.

The worst drivers these days seem to be the ones with Uber/Lyft stickers. They're too busy looking at their GPS screens and don't know the rules of the road. They might be cheaper than cabs, but I don't know why anyone would trust getting in a car with someone who isn't a professional driver.
That's what I'm saying...no matter how many careless pedestrians there are, if you're behind the wheel...you have the responsibility to stop, look before you proceed.
 

MissCroft

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I'm a frequent pedestrian and I never, ever look at my phone while crossing the street or even when walking down the street. I can wait to check my phone.

When crossing on a green light when people are waiting to turn, I make eye contact with the driver and nod. People should do this especially with trucks and buses - You cannot just assume that the driver sees you.

I actually sometimes prefer to jaywalk but am very careful about it. The reason is because I feel that I'm in more control and feel it's safer than crossing at some busy intersections where drivers just fly around the corner without even watching for pedestrians. I see this happen a lot. I've almost been hit. :(
 

Darts

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Too many pedestrians wearing black/dark clothing especially now that we turned the clock back and it starts getting dark right at the evening rush hour.

What is really disturbing are the number of hit and runs and other motorists who simply drive around the body lying on the road. Where is our humanity?
 

G.D. Gentleman

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I'm a frequent pedestrian and I never, ever look at my phone while crossing the street or even when walking down the street. I can wait to check my phone.

When crossing on a green light when people are waiting to turn, I make eye contact with the driver and nod. People should do this especially with trucks and buses - You cannot just assume that the driver sees you.

I actually sometimes prefer to jaywalk but am very careful about it. The reason is because I feel that I'm in more control and feel it's safer than crossing at some busy intersections where drivers just fly around the corner without even watching for pedestrians. I see this happen a lot. I've almost been hit. :(
I fully agree with the consideration of the jaywalk approach - I feel this way as, specifically crossing the street mid-way between the intersections, eliminates the risk of someone trying to turn on a red where I'm about to cross/currently crossing - which is most of the 'close calls' I can remember as a pedestrian in downtown Toronto.
 

explorerzip

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I think people forget that the front pillars of cars have become thicker because of safety features like safety cages, airbags, sensors, etc. I'm also noticing more cars have tint on the windshield and side window even though I think it's technically illegal in Ontario. As a result, it's getting more difficult to see outside the car especially with sports cars that are lower to the ground have have relatively small windows and windshields. You can easily lose sight of objects even when the cars is facing forward.

I also think we need to have separate signals for cars and pedestrians to reduce the chance of collisions. Like the various scramble intersections in the city. We also need to look at the design of intersections to make cars and pedestrians more visible to each other. I've come across some where the cross walk is either obscured by poles or other objects or quite far from the intersection. As a result, drivers will have difficulty seeing pedestrians and vice versa.
 

explorerzip

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I'm a frequent pedestrian and I never, ever look at my phone while crossing the street or even when walking down the street. I can wait to check my phone.

When crossing on a green light when people are waiting to turn, I make eye contact with the driver and nod. People should do this especially with trucks and buses - You cannot just assume that the driver sees you.

I actually sometimes prefer to jaywalk but am very careful about it. The reason is because I feel that I'm in more control and feel it's safer than crossing at some busy intersections where drivers just fly around the corner without even watching for pedestrians. I see this happen a lot. I've almost been hit. :(
Quebec used to have no right turns on red, but got rid of it because it apparently did not reduce accidents. I think the problem though is that some intersections allow right turns on red while others do not. So it creates a lot of confusion and extra signs to remind people not to turn right on red. The thing is most people don't even notice these signs. There is no right on red allowed at the intersection of the 427 south off-ramp to The Queensway going westbound. Yet I constantly see people turning right on red even though must be half a dozen signs in the area. Worse off there are assholes that will honk if you're stopped at the red light or will try to drive around you.
 
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