Ahhhh.... Rob Ford the crack fiend....

[groggy]

Don't be silly groggy... They are all LIARS. David Miller was one of the best liars because you never knew he was lying.

Of course I want to know if he is a drug addict or not. Crack is one of the most
addicting substances on the street, and if he even uses Crack, he should not be in office.

THE POINT:
The point is that the star/gawker or any other "news" organization should not be allowed to publish such
accusations unless they are ready to provide some proof. Its been over a month(?) since the story broke?
No video, and no witnesses coming forward to say they every saw Rob Ford smoking crack. You would have
figured that if Ford was smoking crack, there would be many guys lining up at the Star to tell the story, and probably
receive some cash for it. What will the next accusation be? That Rob Ford is a pedophile?

Have you never had someone accuse you of something when they had no proof? What was your reaction?

The stories are in the Star, Globe, Post and CBC as well as around world and even on Al Jazeera.
Everything that has come out since has only backed up the initial story, including naming the location and high school friend who happens to be a convicted coke dealer.
If it was faked, all the other media would have jumped on the Star as an opportunity to have them sued in a major way.

And as for liars, sure they all lie, but when we catch them at it that should be the end of their political career, regardless of party.

 

[slowandeasy]

I agree with your stance. But why hasn't Ford filed a lawsuit for slander and defamation with gawker/star?

Good question, and I am not sure about the answer, but there are probably 1000 plausible answers to that question. One of them might be that
he has taken crack or has a drug problem. My bet would be that he did have a drug or drinking problem if he kicks up too much of a fuss
that will come out. Another plausible answer might be that he has a drinking problem. He is kind of a drug conundrum. He is too hyper
to be a marijuana addict, but his body says that he has an eating problem. He does act like a coke/crack addict, but that drug is supposed
to have you so wired and active, you lose weight (I am not a drug addict expert, so this might all be crap). Who the hell knows what the reality is.

What I see here is a bunch of bullies who have taken every opportunity to bring this guy down. They have stirred up enough dirt, that the shit is starting to stick. Now the mob mentality has set in and people want some blood.

 

[onthebottom]

Welcome to Terb , Rob!

No answer eh....

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[onthebottom]

Not yet, but we're getting closer.
Still think there isn't a video?

How much closer are we now....

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[blackrock13]

How much closer are we now....

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This close?

never say you've seen it all

 

[train]

How much closer are we now....

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groggy is about as close to this as he is to finding out who Pierre Poutine is. Or to put it another way wiggle is as close to finding the video as he is to using up all his sick days before retirement.

 

[groggy]

groggy is about as close to this as he is to finding out who Pierre Poutine is. Or to put it another way wiggle is as close to finding the video as he is to using up all his sick days before retirement.

I don't think Rob will ever tell us what he did with the video.
So I don't think we'll see it.

What we are close to knowing is how real it is, who was in it, where it was shot and the content.
As close as we can without Rob returning it, that is.

 

[elmo]

I don't think Rob will ever tell us what he did with the video.
So I don't think we'll see it.

What we are close to knowing is how real it is, who was in it, where it was shot and the content.
As close as we can without Rob returning it, that is.

Show us the proof you have that he either has or had it.

 

[wigglee]

What issue?

substance abuse....more specifically, crack smoking with ghetto dealers. A video was seen by 3 reporters and now the video has been hidden or destroyed, but the questions about its' authenticity demand a clear and full response from the mayor. Certainly in light of the other bizarre behaviour he has exhibited, this substance abuse issue needs to be addressed and some of his staff have said that and even quit over it.

WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN, OTB?????????????????????????

 

[Possum Trot]

You really have a low standard of proof don't you wiggles. If its in print in the Star it must be true. The only standard I know that is lower is if Sid Ryan says its true.

 

[groggy]

Show us the proof you have that he either has or had it.

That's my opinion, of course, you know there isn't proof.
I base that on Ford's announcement that 'the video doesn't exist' just days before Gawker said they couldn't reach the guy with the video and then the announcement that the video was gone.
Ford made it sound like he had inside information, and quite probably he didn't destroy, but he probably thinks it was destroyed.

 

[dirk076]

That's my opinion, of course, you know there isn't proof.

And there it is. That's all folks!

 

[groggy]

And there it is. That's all folks!

And where's your proof that the Rob Ford never smoked crack?

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

And where's your proof that the Rob Ford never smoked crack?

The onus isnt on Ford (or his supporters), the onus is on you to prove he does

 

[groggy]

The onus isnt on Ford (or his supporters), the onus is on you to prove he does

Legally, but in the court of public opinion?
He is a politician, and will live or die by the public's opinion.

He's lost council, a third of his office and most of his advisers.

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

Even if Ford takes a drug test (which he'll never do anyways), he wont get reelected next year IMO.

Ford is too much of a sideshow for voters to give him a 2nd term. So its all a moot point, really

 

[avxl1003]

Screw the drug test. I'd just like him to stand there and answer some questions on the matter (without the answer being "I can't comment on that").

Up until this point we've had "prepared statements" read to us.

Isn't it our duty to question our elected officials anyway?

 

[onthebottom]

substance abuse....more specifically, crack smoking with ghetto dealers. A video was seen by 3 reporters and now the video has been hidden or destroyed, but the questions about its' authenticity demand a clear and full response from the mayor. Certainly in light of the other bizarre behaviour he has exhibited, this substance abuse issue needs to be addressed and some of his staff have said that and even quit over it.

WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN, OTB?????????????????????????

This seems to be more about unsubstantiated allegations and poor reporting standards....

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[onthebottom]

And where's your proof that the Rob Ford never smoked crack?

Are you stupid enough to think you can prove a negative... oh never mind, you've answered that question.

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[blackrock13]

Are you stupid enough to think you can prove 'this' negative... oh never mind, you've answered that question.

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Some negative can be proven. This one not so much.