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MelaniCarmelo

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This is where life experience comes in. Any decision he makes won't be an easy one. If the shame of telling his family and the potential consequences are too much for him, he will need to live with those consequences. If he tells his family and they are the rock of support that gets him to overcome his "addiction", he will need to live with those consequences. If he goes to a therapist to see if they can help him, he will need to live with those consequences. If he chooses to do nothing and continue seeing escorts, he will need to live with those consequences. He's asking us to make a decision for him, instead of making a choice. He's free to make whatever choice he wants, but can't complain if things go sour. I don't think compassion is what he needs, he needs to take personal responsibility. For those of us who have seen loved ones or perhaps had personal experiences with addictions, it's not compassion that triggered the change. It's sounds "bad" or "hard" but it is what it is. So to the OP, I don't give a damn about what this addiction does to you. If your marriage fails, I don't care. If your child thinks you are a monster and never wants to see you again, I don't care. If you spend a ton of money on escorts, I don't care. Only you face the consequences of your decisions, not me or anyone on this board. Act wisely and, forgiveness sakes, take some responsibility.
People who don't care don't reply in length to things they don't care about. I think you care to some degree but also wanted to make a jab at him for not dealing with his addiction how you feel an addict should and then disguise it as help. lol Now that you got your distaste for his addiction off your chest hopefully you can now finally stop caring about this thread and move on to something that makes you feel more positive! I mean... I get it, not everyone has a tolerance for addicts because they don't understand how they aren't able to just snap out of it whenever they want. Especially if they've had to deal with family or friends first hand who were addicted to something... Idk... I've worked with addicts before so I've seen and heard enough to grasp what their battle is like. 🙏

End of the day you're entitled to your opinion the same as me!
 
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People who don't care don't reply in length to things they don't care about. I think you care to some degree but also wanted to make a jab at him for not dealing with his addiction how you feel an addict should and then disguise it as help. lol Now that you got your distaste for his addiction off your chest hopefully you can now finally stop caring about this thread and move on to something that makes you feel more positive! I mean... I get it, not everyone has a tolerance for addicts because they don't understand how they aren't able to just snap out of it whenever they want. Especially if they've had to deal with family or friends first hand who were addicted to something... Idk... I've worked with addicts before so I've seen and heard enough to grasp what their battle is like. 🙏

End of the day you're entitled to your opinion the same as me!
How many people do you know that overcame serious "addiction" issues just from compassion and telling them "it's ok to feel the way you do"? What is your "work" with addicts? Are you a registered social worker or psychologist?
 
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How many people do you know that overcame serious "addiction" issues just from compassion and telling them "it's ok to feel the way you do"? What is your "work" with addicts? Are you a registered social worker or psychologist?
Really? You're resorting to an ad hominem fallacy? What a truly disappointing comment... I don't need to disclose any in depth details to you just to prove some kind of point or satisfy your need to be right. I'm agreeing to disagree here, because you're making it clear that there was no point in responding to you to begin with. Learning from my mistake and moving right along thank you! Enjoy the rest of your day sir or argue by yourself. Whatever floats your boat! Lol
 
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lunaseraphim

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Hi Luna, you know I respect you 100%, but I don't agree with a lot of your statements. You have to realize that a lot of clients are "socially inept", and can't get into a real "civi" relationship, if their life depended on it. Therefore these guys see SP's "out of desperation", if the guy wants any sort of sex life, at all. I checked out some of your selfies, and you're "gorgeous" looking, so I can understand how some clients might be awkward in approaching you. For example, sending you very long e-mails etc.

Also, a client is paying a lot of money to see you, so in some ways they deserve to be pampered. You have to realize that a "socially" inept guy who's sees a "gorgeous" SP like yourself, for a 3 hour date, can start getting boundary issues blurred. FYI, a lot of SP's don't offer 3 hr dates , because they don't have the "gravitas", and high level social skills, that you seem to possess. I don't see how seeing a pretty escort like yourself, can lead to addiction. Luna, you have to realize that most escorts aren't like you. A lot of escorts are just happy with a bunch of 1 hr dates, as some escorts themselves, don't have the social skills to go on romantic outings or for dinner dates with "fun" after.
Are you saying that I shouldn't be offering longer dates because if I do I need to give something more than what the guy paid for? I really don't understand what you're talking about. You don't think my clients are being pampered? It seems like you're projecting a whole narrative onto me, when in fact you have never met me and if you look at most of my reviews they are written by very satisfied customers, who didn't necessarily book longer than a hour.

The guys who book these dates are not socially inept, let me tell you that. They are usually men who are very intelligent and good conversationalists and want to spend time with someone they feel they can have discussions with. What you have to realize is that I worked very hard at developing social skills and that is what you and others also don't understand. I never said I wasn't happy with 1 hour dates lol you are making that assumption. I get all sorts of dates. But I am not ''tricking'' socially inept men into booking me for multiple hours if that is what you're implying lol.. And I don't think booking long dates is what leads to addiction. It's consuming escort services like it's junk food, that does. Addiction is compulsive behavior. I am not going to become a food addict because I went to a nice restaurant with a 7 course meal. I'm more likely to become a food addict if I don't take care of my mental health and emotional well being and I compulsively eat junk food

Not necessarily. A lot of SP's on terb, get constantly good reviews, like Abby@DD, and Jenn@Mirage, to name a couple. Some guys like reviewing, as it helps the other guys avoid subpar sp's, and to help guys not waste money. As you know this "hobby", isn't cheap.

Luna, in my opinion, you're making a lot of generalizations. With that being said, I still respect you 100% , and I appreciate your opinions from an SP's point of view. A lot of sp's are too scared, to be as open and honest as you are, as they are afraid that they'll lose business. However, you're an independent provider, whose "gorgeous" looking, so you can get away with it.
I feel like you're missing my point. I know seeing an escort isn't cheap. However, this isn't a hobby and no one is entitled to these services. Believe me, I am scared of losing business and I do have some haters, but I allow myself to be outspoken on the behalf of other providers who, like I have in the past, have been targets of men who were aggressive, saw us as objects and pushed our boundaries. It seems like you don't see the amount of work, resources, and energy I put into this business.. I haven't always been an independent provider, either. I have worked for massage parlors as well, for a while. And when I started as an indy, my rates were very low and since I was new I was targeted by the type of sex addicts who have lower empathy, they tried to lowball me and treated me without respect.

Sometimes guys, don't have the ability to get in real life relationships, for whatever reason. That's why seeing SP's, "is the world's oldest profession." It's a much needed service.
No one is entitled to sex, NO ONE. Not even me. I grew up getting bullied and my family members were cold. I have always been seen as ''weird'' and never had friends when I was young. Social skills are things that you can work on. Believe it or not, you can work on yourself. Nobody is doomed to be single their whole lives and doomed to spend money on escort services. I have had long periods in my life during which I was single and didn't have a partner, couldn't find one. It was usually because I needed to work on myself.

Addiction often happens because someone has unhealed trauma and undiagnosed mental health struggles that they need to address, which is nothing to be ashamed of.. But it's something that has be worked on with the help of a therapist. Lots of men are lonely and socially inept but aren't addicted to porn or seeing escorts, btw. I hear this excuse a lot.. ''I see SP on a regular basis and feel addicted to it, because I am unattractive and don't have good social skills''..

There was a client I had before who was convinced he was ugly, but he was actually well dressed and cute. He was an intelligent, pleasant man but held so much anger and resentment, and he was CONVINCED that he could never find a girlfriend and had to see escorts forever. He spent all his time on a review board and would see girls from agencies and write reviews, spent all his (pretty good) salary on hour long appointments with escorts that he actually never even got to know as people. In reality he had developed a sex addiction. Many such cases.
 
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How many people do you know that overcame serious "addiction" issues just from compassion and telling them "it's ok to feel the way you do"? What is your "work" with addicts? Are you a registered social worker or psychologist?
Most women who work in this industry have first hand experiences with addiction, we have seen how it works.. I have lost friends to addictions. Guilt tripping someone doesn't work.. Offering alternatives, guiding the person to appropriate resources and helping them question where the addiction actually comes from, does. I'm not a clinician or a social worker or psychologist, but I've seen this multiple times in my life
 
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Really? You're resorting to an ad hominem fallacy? What a truly disappointing comment... I don't need to disclose any in depth details to you just to prove some kind of point or satisfy your need to be right. I'm agreeing to disagree here, because you're making it clear that there was no point in responding to you to begin with. Learning from my mistake and moving right along thank you! Enjoy the rest of your day sir or argue by yourself. Whatever floats your boat! Lol
The guy asks for help. You are stating you "work" with people with addiction, implying some form of expertise, but are refusing to mention the source of said expertise. The OP may rely on your comments since you are putting yourself out there as being a professional in the field of addiction, potentially causing more harm than good. So again, what is the professional work you do in the field of addictions?
 

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Most women who work in this industry have first hand experiences with addiction, we have seen how it works.. I have lost friends to addictions. Guilt tripping someone doesn't work.. Offering alternatives, guiding the person to appropriate resources and helping them question where the addiction actually comes from, does. I'm not a clinician or a social worker or psychologist, but I've seen this multiple times in my life
I don't doubt you see many people with addiction issues. But seeing them in the capacity as a sex worker and as someone trained in the field of addictions support are two very very different things. Having experience in the field of sex work is not the same as having experience in the field of addictions counseling and working through said addictions with people, step by step. For example, I have a lot of experience with the stock market, even though I am not trained as a financial analyst. I'm not going to put myself out there as someone who works with people looking to improve there financial position. In the same light, just because someone has had sex before in their life, doesn't mean they would make a good sex worker.
 
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I don't doubt you see many people with addiction issues. But seeing them in the capacity as a sex worker and as someone trained in the field of addictions support are two very very different things. Having experience in the field of sex work is not the same as having experience in the field of addictions counseling and working through said addictions with people, step by step. For example, I have a lot of experience with the stock market, even though I am not trained as a financial analyst. I'm not going to put myself out there as someone who works with people looking to improve there financial position. In the same light, just because someone has had sex before in their life, doesn't mean they would make a good sex worker.
Yes, but are YOU trained in the field of addiction support? I feel like this forum is really not the right place to discuss addictions, particularly sex addiction. All of us are pitching in and discussing, but ultimately it's inappropriate and just brings up a lot of negative feelings. What I'm saying on this thread is stuff that I have been told by therapists and social workers, myself. And things I have read in books about addiction and mental health.
 

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Yes, but are you trained in the field of addiction support? I feel like this forum is really not the right place to discuss addictions, particularly sex addiction
Nope, I absolutely am not. But I haven't put myself out there as working with people with addictions. My comment was in response to Melani's comments indicating that she works with people suffering from addiction.
 

lunaseraphim

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Nope, I absolutely am not. But I haven't put myself out there as working with people with addictions. My comment was in response to Melani's comments indicating that she works with people suffering from addiction.
Well, I'm going to let her answer because there's a reason why she said that.
 

lunaseraphim

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Hi Luna, I'm tired of arguing with you. I think you're a very nice and intelligent woman, and let's leave it at that.
Thank you for your compliments, I appreciate it. I just want to say that I am not arguing or trying to be unpleasant, I'm just offering my perspective on this subject, but I agree, let's leave it at that. I don't think these types of discussions tend to end very well on forums like these.
 
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