Add REBELS to the Offensive Word List
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…because the Rebels were defeated, in a shoot-out with the militia, exactly 180 years ago.
And in characteristically Canadian fashion they marched to uphold the the customary privileges and rights of subjects under the Crown, not to overthrow it.
Besides, we haven't had a day to celebrate since Hallowe'en and we deserve one. Up the Rebels!
...152 years less a day since the abolishion of slavery in the the US (Dec. 6, 1865).
What the hell has some Brit got to do with whether or not the 'n-word' was acceptable in Canada,... ???
It never was, my parents never uttered the word,... so including them in some ones version of what Canadian society was, is an insult.
Yup. My parents shushed us but good when they heard me and my gang picking who'd be It for Hide'n'Seek with Eeny-meany-miney-moe.
Acceptable only behind the garage. Or if you were a film-star or a dashing war hero and could get away with such louche misbehaviours. Or thought you could.
Which is where Harvey Weinstein crosses paths with Robert E. Lee these days.
Glad to see you corrected your post.
Or do you still feel that you are correct in painting the whole of Canada with your anti-white brush,... ???
And back o the subject, anybody who claims that some Canadian school choosing it sports team name to recall some fucked up time in US history,... is an idiot.
As far as I know, Quebec still has a place called “Nigger Rapids,” named for a black couple that drowned there.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/11-quebec-sites-that-contain-the-n-word-to-be-renamed-1.3245106
http://montrealgazette.com/news/quebec/opinion-canadas-long-history-of-anti-black-racism
I correct grammar to ensure clarity, as this is an English speaking board.
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The school symbol was the Confederate flag, presumably selected in 1961. Even if they meant “Rebel” as in “Rebel Without a Cause,” their mistake was made when they chose to connect their team with the Confederacy.
Quebec in the 1900's, yep,...that's Canada.
If you want to live in the past, you may want to do some research on the origin of the word, I'll give you a hint,... French language,...and how it is still used by some Europeans, and is not considered derogatory.
Isn't the word Spanish in origin?
‘Negro’ is still pretty common in Spanish speaking places, and from what I recall not generally offensive. It’s pretty much exchangeable with the English ‘black.’
I can’t say I’ve heard ‘nègre’ without derogatory undertones, but my French is bad.
“Nigger,” in my experience, is not used without derogative-intent worldwide. With the obvious exception...
"In its original English language usage, nigger (then spelled niger) was generally a neutral word for a dark-skinned individual."
But I agree with you that it evolved to be a derogative.
My point was, I don't appreciate when people insinuate that its usage was an accepted in Canada, when used as a derogative.
Any how, I think we are on the same wave length.
And I missed the fact that the dumb school picked their sports name based on an flawed US culture,... stupid.
If the school symbol chosen in 1961 really was the Confederate Battle Flag, I'm quite surprised. Not so much that they chose a Confederate symbol, but that in 1961 a U.S. symbol was considered appropriate in Southern Ontario and indeed that the school administration allowed it.
Then although it is pronounced differently there are the river and state in West Africa both spelled with one g.
I have to wonder just how did the word evolve to become a derogatory, was it simply because blacks didn't like being called something that related to their race, or did the racists then always use the term along with a negative.
Or was it like how the act of showing respect for the Indian/native culture when naming sports teams, some how turned in an insult, almost over night.
If some one was to call me,... "whitie", am I now supposed to get upset,... ???
Nope, if someone mistakenly thinks I'm from eastern Europe, doesn't bother me.don't you mean 'honky', instead of "whitie"
But a little history for ya, some whites did at one time, call white people from eastern Europe, honkies,... so nothing to do with the colour of ones skin.
Besides, honky is not a colour,.... look it up.
Historical context is necessary for your “original English” quote. At the time of its early usage your quote refers to, dark-skinned individuals could be bought, sold and owned as slaves, and any neutralizing of the term ignores it was an intentionally pejorative one, even then. Even if not an actual slave, free-Africans were clinging to the lowest rung of British (and later, Canadian) society, at a time when race almost without exception dictated lot in life.
I’m not sure who insinuated what (you allude to #13 and you quoted the post in #19), but I assure you I have not insinuated that its use in Canada has ever been without racist or at-least racialized-undertones. American society (the society I alluded to), or at-least those in power, nomalized its use by “society” for a time in an attempt to dehumanize all members of a race.
I brought up Canada (#27) only in the context of Quebec still keeping the word on some of its signs. There is plenty of evidence of the word’s use in Canada after 1850... It was generally used with intentional or unintentional malice. Whether its use was ‘acceptable’ or not depended on whose garage you were standing behind (see oldjones #22).
....As tends to be the case with all racialized language, locker room talk or whatever.
Sorry but there is nothing offensive with saying the N word
Regardless of connotation its 99% of the time blacks calling blacks the N word
Can't have it both ways, if it is offensive noone says it. If the "offended people" call themselves it then it is obviously not really offensive
As I posted,... but you failed to comprehend, the word NIGER was neutral, and as in other parts of Europe, as it was a word linked to the colour black,...it was simply used to differentiate between black skinned people and white.
But since you obviously have an axe to grind, you will be blind to that FACT.
And of course the word evolved to being a derogative,... I have repeated that over and over again.
The word was not used in public in Canada, unless you associated with low lifes.
And once again, you posted "American society", and "Canadian society", but I do undersdtand that you harbour enough hate to paint everybody in both countries with the same brush.
