About Muslims...

[Cinema Face]

And the "Good Christian" Nazi's killed 6 million Jews because of their religion ... that makes Christians at least 3 times worst than Muslims ... right?

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Nazi's were atheists, like communists, they were against the church.

 

[papasmerf]

see I told you , another faithful Christian popped up in defence

You need to slow down on the self pity.

 

[scroll99]

Basra's militias murder 'un-Islamic' women

From The Sunday Times
December 16, 2007
Tossed from a car and shot in cold blood
Marie Colvin in Basra
IT WAS just after 11pm and the shopkeeper was closing up for the night when a van screeched to a halt outside. The back doors flew open. “Someone inside threw a woman onto the street,” he said. “She was lying on the road but she was still alive. A man lent out and shot a machine-gun into her body.”
As the van raced away, the shopkeeper ran over to her. She was aged 25 to 30 with long dark hair and was lying face up. “There was so much blood,” he said. “The police just took a photograph and put her in the back of a van.”
There have been 48 women killed in six months for “un-Islamic behaviour”. The murders in the teeming southern port of Basra have highlighted the weakness of the security forces and the strength of Islamic militias as Britain prepares to hand over control to Iraqi officials today.
In another case, two teenagers saw a woman beaten to death by five or six men from the Mahdi Army, Basra’s most powerful militia. One picked up a rock and crushed her skull. The teenagers were told that their home and family would be destroyed if they betrayed the killers.

Link:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/iraq/article3056693.ece

where the fuck is the link of 1 million Iraqis killed by the direct actions of Godly President Dubya and its millions of faithful Evangelist followers influenced by their religion who supports him and knowingly created these conditions in the first place in the secular Iraq

 

[papasmerf]

where the fuck is the link of 1 million Iraqi killed by the direct actions of Godly President Dubya and its millions of faithful Evangelist follower influenced by their religion who created these conditions in the first place in the secular Iraq

Where is the link between your posts and compassion? Where is the link between your islam and human rights?

 

[scroll99]

Where is the link between your posts and compassion? Where is the link between your islam and human rights?

see I told you , another faithful Christian pop up in defence of Christanity no matter how stupid they have to look like

 

[papasmerf]

see I told you , another faithful Christian pop up in defence of Christanity no matter how stupid they have to look like

papa shakes his head wondering why children are given computers and not supervised

 

[Jimi Wasabi]

by the time you finished writing your post hundreds of women were being raped and beaten ( as per stats) in North America mostly from acquiantaces or family members and thousands of incest crimes were being done and as per your logic these were all cases of child abuse and domestic voilence , but it's roots are the fanatical beliefs of Christanity :so go defend Christanity first and when you will defend it I will call you a pathetic extremist Christian rolleyes: .
but I guess Christanity is immuned to all these accusations and media and its faithful christian writers doesnt goes for all out war against it . lol

Dude, those are crimes, and every society is going to have crime. But which Christians are propogating rape and incest? Which Christian school is teaching hate and intolerance these days?

I am not defending Christianity. Just making the observation that at least they have changed with the times. They have evolved to more civilized thinking. Christians aren't perfect either, and there's still room for improvement.

But how silly is it when you draw a cartoon of the prophet Mohammed that people call for your death? That's fucking ass backwards and ignorant.

 

[Jimi Wasabi]

see I told you , another faithful Christian popped up in defence

Boy you make a lot of assumptions. How do you know he is Christian? I may or may not be Christian either. I never put forth any Christian belief in my writings. Supposed I told you I was Buddhist?

 

[Damondean]

You approve?

where the fuck is the link of 1 million Iraqis killed by the direct actions of Godly President Dubya and its millions of faithful Evangelist followers influenced by their religion who supports him and knowingly created these conditions in the first place in the secular Iraq

I take it that's it's OK with you to kill women for "un-Islamic behaviour."

 

[alan9080]

According to the National post article the head covering had
nothing to do with the murder. There are other girls in the
same family who did not wear the Hijab.

http://www.nationalpost.com/news/story.html?id=172133

And for those who are still in the mood for some "hate" here is
an interesting site

http://www.kkklan.com/

I'm off to watch the football game

Let the flaming begin!

 

[Sargeant StiffCock]

All those things that happened to you are your family "over there" ... leave it over there, that's what you expect of other "new comers", that's what we expect of you.

But, fine, if you are so sure that you are right in your bigoted beliefs, then why aren't you out there "doing the Lords work" and presenting you fucked up ideas in public?

Why aren't you out there sending "letters to the editor" to all the papers demanding the the inferior Muslims be kicked out of the country?

Some people are just all talk, but when it comes right down to it are really little cowards. When push comes to shove talk is all they really have .. so big man, here's your challenge: if you feel so justified and right in your hatred, then do something about it, get out there and show us how a brave bigot stands up for his righteous bigotry.

Better yet, since all the bad things that happened to you are "over there", take you hypocritical ass and move it back "over there" where you can partake in your vile vengeance as much as you think is necessary ... ahh, but let me guess, like the sorry little coward your kind always ends up being, it is far easier to bully someone else than to actually stand up to the real enemy.

You're no better than the people you claim destroyed your family ... you're a coward and bully, just like them.

I know those things happeneded "over there" that's why we came here and all I am wanting is that it doesn't start happening here but you can't seem to get that through your thick skull, you must be muslim I can't even believe I am answering your senseless and childish posts. I am not here to fix the world, I have better things to do than writing letters to all the papers. Besides, I don't want to start anything. I need the Muslims to stay in a muslim country and beat up their wives and kill their children for the name of allah or whatever the fuck it is they do it for, over there not here, thats all I want.

You want me to go back to Turkey and take on a country infested with narrow minded, fanatic muslims? What a ridicilous suggestion. Even if I had the guts to do that why would I? They can take their country and their religion and shove it up their asses. I want nothing to do with them nor their country.

Half of your post doesn't even make sense, who am I bullying and how? I am a coward AND a bully? How can I be both? Are you even serious, I am wondering if you are even old enough to be on TERB.

You talk about my hypocritical ass? How am hypocritical? I hated muslims in their country and I still hate them in this country, plain and simple. You want hypocritical? Look at all those fanatic muslims who hate christianity but still come to this christian country for a better life and bring their garbage with them. It's like, well take whatever good this country has to offer, opportunity, money, security but we won't adapt to the religion or even the lifestyle. THAT IS hypocritical. THEY should be the ones staying in their own countries trying to make better places to live. Almost all the muslim countries could be considered third world countries.Do you see the pattern? Do you see how following religion (and a fucked-up one at that) so blindly affects you?

 

[Cinema Face]

where the fuck is the link of 1 million Iraqis killed by the direct actions of Godly President Dubya and its millions of faithful Evangelist followers influenced by their religion who supports him and knowingly created these conditions in the first place in the secular Iraq

Majority of death in Iraq is a result of terrorist acts and secular violence between Shiite and Sunni's.

Most killed are killed by fellow Muslims, not by Americans.


Deaths in 2006

by terrorists: 16,791

As collateral damage by Americans: 225

The colateral damage figures also include civilians killed by terrorists and terrorists posing as civilians.

source

 

[Aardvark154]

According to the National post article the head covering had nothing to do with the murder. . .Let the flaming begin!

Did you actually read the article?

Let's see another Pakistani woman who is an "immigration consultant" says it wasn't an honour killing - and why wasn't an honour killing - well because the victim was "was satisfied, she was relaxed that somehow her parents understood that this is what she wanted to do." - yup, I say call off the Mississauga Police, the OPP and whoever else is investigating this case. It's clearly a case of diminished mental capacity (since he confessed to killing her), after all we know that her father wasn't upset with her (I have a bridge for sale).

Then her parents reschedule the funeral without telling any of her many hundreds of friends who arrive to find out she's already been buried. Does this seem normal to anyone?

 

[kl33n]

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Nazi's were atheists, like communists, they were against the church.

Nazi's were NOT atheists. In fact, the Nazi belt buckle had "God with us" enscribed.

http://www.ffrf.org/fttoday/2002/nov02/nazibeltbuckle.jpg

 

[Aardvark154]

Nazi's were NOT atheists. In fact, the Nazi belt buckle had "God with us" enscribed.

http://www.ffrf.org/fttoday/2002/nov02/nazibeltbuckle.jpg

Hold on. The "Gott Mit Uns" belt buckle was an inheritance from the Prussian Army - Preußßische Armee to the Reichsheer to the Wehrmacht and was very much a non-Nazi motto despite it being on Wehrmacht equipment along with the Nazi Swastika. The leadership of the Nazi Party were most definately anti-Christian. Indeed belt buckles of the Waffen SS instead used Meine Ehre heißßt Treue (my honor is loyalty) certainly a much more Nazi ideal.

 

[kl33n]

Were there outcries in this forum when these events happened:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,274115,00.html

"Andrea Yates, a devout, depressed Christian housewife from Houston, drowned her five children in the family bathtub because she believed she heard voices from God telling her to kill her children"

"Now another Texas woman, Deanna Laney, a devout, depressed Christian woman from New Chapel Hill, a small community in East Texas, is on trial for stoning to death two of her sons, 8 and 6, and seriously injuring her 14-month-old by hammering his head with a 4 1/ 2 pound rock." (God told her to do it)
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4188/is_20040410/ai_n11449602

Christian Mom beats her sons to death because they'd be better off in heaven
http://abcnews.go.com/US/LegalCenter/story?id=967310

Another Christian mom kills her daughter to send her to a "better place"
http://www.newsnet5.com/News/1339793/detail.html

Now, I know there are many cases with muslim parents doing the same and much more in the 3rd world. But sticking to the secular western societies, it appears that when a muslim does something wicked due to his religion, it means Islam is evil, however when Christians do it, they are just "isolated incidents".

My feelings are that religion fanaticism is evil. They can get good people to do brutal things.

 

[kl33n]

Hold on. The "Gott Mit Uns" belt buckle was an inheritance from the Prussian Army - Preußßische Armee to the Reichsheer to the Wehrmacht and was very much a non-Nazi motto despite it being on Wehrmacht equipment along with the Nazi Swastika. The leadership of the Nazi Party were most definately anti-Christian. Indeed belt buckles of the Waffen SS instead used Meine Ehre heißßt Treue (my honor is loyalty) certainly a much more Nazi ideal.

Again, they were NOT anti-Christian and there's ample evidence to prove it. They hated some sects of Christianity, but they still preached pro-Christian propaganda wrapped as "Postive Christianity"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Positive_Christianity

We were convinced that the people needs and requires this faith. We have therefore undertaken the fight against the atheistic movement, and that not merely with a few theoretical declarations: we have stamped it out.
-Adolf Hitler, in a speech in Berlin on 24 Oct. 1933

The National Socialist State professes its allegiance to positive Christianity. It will be its honest endeavour to protect both the great Christian Confessions in their rights, to secure them from interference with their doctrines (Lehren ), and in their duties to constitute a harmony with the views and the exigencies of the State of to-day.

-Adolf Hitler, on 26 June 1934, to Catholic bishops

 

[Aardvark154]

Again, they were NOT anti-Christian and there's ample evidence to prove it. They hated some sects of Christianity, but they still preached pro-Christian propaganda wrapped as "Postive Christianity"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Positive_Christianity

Your version of what constitutes Christianity and being a Christian is obviously quite different from mine. Dietrich Bonhoeffer would I believe be rather surprised to know that the Nazi Party which murdered him supported mainstream (small o) orthodox Christianity.

To quote from the article you yourself cite: "At various points in the Nazi regime, attempts were made to replace orthodox Christianity with its 'positive' alternative." "Adherents of Positive Christianity argued that traditional Christianity emphasized... [Christ's] sacrifice on the cross and...redemption." "They wanted to replace this with a "positive" emphasis on Christ as an active preacher, organizer and fighter who opposed the institutionalized Judaism of his day."

So to sum up the Nazi party wanted to replace Christianity with something else, so-called ‘positive Christianity’ gutting out the essentials of the faith and replacing it with an anti-Semitic action man philosophy.

"In the writings of such anti-Semites as Emile Burnouf, Houston Stewart Chamberlain, and Paul de Lagarde, Jesus was redefined as an "Aryan" hero who struggled against Judaism. Consistent with their origins in Higher Criticism, such writers often either rejected or minimized the miraculous aspects of Gospel narratives, reducing the crucifixion to a tragic coda to Jesus's life rather than its prefigured culmination. Both Burnouf and Chamberlain argued that the population of Galilee was racially distinct from that of Judea. Lagarde insisted that German Christianity must become "national" in character."

"Alfred Rosenberg, editor of Völkischer Beobachter, [argued] in The Myth of the Twentieth Century... that the Catholic and Protestant churches had distorted Christianity in such a way that the 'heroic' and 'Germanic' aspects of Jesus's life had been ignored. For Rosenberg, Positive Christianity was a transitional ideology that would pave the way to the revival of fully Aryan religions. Its symbol was the orb of the sun in the form of a sun cross."

"Hitler distanced himself from Rosenberg's more radical ideas, wishing to retain the support of the conservative Christian electorate and social elite, but he emphasized the desirability of Positive Christianity."

So as in the case of ‘Gott Mitt Uns’ the Nazis were not in the position before Germany surrendered to be able to alienate in the first case the Professional Officer corps or in the second the majority of German Christians who ‘went along’ by implementing in its entirety their plan to eliminate Christianity because they believed that this might be “the straw to break the camels back.” That's a long way from the Nazi Party being supportive of Christianity or it's top officials being active Christians

 

[Cinema Face]

I can't quote Hitler as well as you can, kl.

Germans were mostly Christian. Nazis were not.

Honestly, the government in power can't openly declare war on the predominent religion. There would certainly be a revolt.

Certainly Hitler seeked to undermine the church. It doesn't suprise me that he might support the church in his speeches.

 

[kl33n]

...

Your version of what constitutes Christianity and being a Christian is obviously quite different from mine. Dietrich Bonhoeffer would I believe be rather surprised to know that the Nazi Party which murdered him supported mainstream (small o) orthodox Christianity.

No one thing "constitutes Christianity and being a Christian". This is a No True Scotsman fallacy. There is no such thing as a "true" Christian. A Catholic may think no one but Catholics will go to heaven because they are true Christians, we all know this is a fallacy. The same can be applied to orthodox Christians saying "Positive Christianity" is not true Christianity. Also, please don't call it my version... I had no part in the Nazi propaganda.

Besides, we can find verses in the bible that justify mass murder.