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Insidious Von

Insidious Von

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Sometimes we need to be reminded. I wonder if either of the Wienrib's (Geddy's parents) are still alive?

After what they went through, everything else was gravy.

 
Knowing this now, I wonder how Geddy and Neil got along? Peart was into absurdist comedy (Ayn Rand), Atlas Shrugged is perhaps the silliest book I ever read. Rand was naive to a fault.

If you built a society according to the book, this is what it would look like.

 
Insidious Von said:
Knowing this now, I wonder how Geddy and Neil got along? Peart was into absurdist comedy (Ayn Rand), Atlas Shrugged is perhaps the silliest book I ever read. Rand was naive to a fault.

If you built a society according to the book, this is what it would look like.

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I don’t see how an affection for Rand’s philosophy would upset a Holocaust survivor. A society organized along her teachings would never entertain a pogrom. In fact, Rand herself was a survivor of the communist Holocaust in Russia; her parents fled with barely their lives. I suspect that she and most Holocaust victims would find some common ground.
 
Insidious Von said:
Sometimes we need to be reminded. I wonder if either of the Wienrib's (Geddy's parents) are still alive?
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You posted it but it sounds like you didn't listen to it. At one point early on he mentions that his father died when Geddy was 12 and near the end he says that his mother is still alive.

It was an excellent interview that I could relate to. My mother was also in Auschwitz and got liberated when the war ended. She talked some, but not a lot. He also mentioned a good friend of his in the interview who was in my high school class, Ben Mink who collaborated with k.d. lang and also worked with Nash the Slash. I remember when Ben brought in this album by a new group one day in high school, Crosby, Stills and Nash.

Geddy was well-spoken and has some similar outlooks as I do. Thanks for posting it.
 
I was three minutes in when I posted the link, didn't hear about his father. I started from the beginning after posting.

It wasn't the fact Geddy's family are Holocaust survivors that Neil would upset him. Rand's philosophy is very Pollyanna, she has no concept of human nature. A society based on Atlas Shrugged with talented selfless people working together would eventually break down. There's always professionals around who'll ask, "what's in it for me". It would look like the Late Roman Republic.

Peart dedicated Fly By Night to Rand.
 
I'll never visit Cleveland, the Rock HOF is an outright sham. How can you leave out Yes for so long. Geddy paying tribute to Chris Squire.

 
Insidious Von said:
It wasn't the fact Geddy's family are Holocaust survivors that Neil would upset him. Rand's philosophy is very Pollyanna, she has no concept of human nature. A society based on Atlas Shrugged with talented selfless people working together would eventually break down. There's always professionals around who'll ask, "what's in it for me". It would look like the Late Roman Republic.

Peart dedicated Fly By Night to Rand.
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I think you may need to reread Altus Shrugged. While you are correct in saying that it does not portray a realistic working society, the major theme of the book is the dead opposite of what you have posted above. The whole idea of the book is that you should not expect others to carry your weight. Hence the repeated mantra of “something for something” through out the book.

The band actual took inspiration for the 2112 album from Rand’s other work, The Fountainhead.
 
Bagilson said:
The band actual took inspiration for the 2112 album from Rand’s other work, The Fountainhead.
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Atlas Shrugged was very easy to read, unlike Nietzsche.

I've watched parts of The Fountainhead, it was on TCM recently. Gary Cooper was Ayn Rand's ideal man...she probably didn't know that he was a hard partying franking machine. He drank Clark Gable under the table and the big eared actor hated him for it.

Dan Rather was a field reporter in Vietnam and Afghanistan during the Soviet occupation, didn't know he's a Rush fan.

 
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Nietzsche can be a dense read, and at the end of it he really hasn’t said anything that is worth the effort you expended. I always preferred Plato and Aurelius.
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Emperor Marcus Aurelius? He's considered Rome's last great Emperor of the Pax Romana which ended after his reign. Never read his Meditations, I'm new to philosophy. I read Also Sprach Zarathustra due to Richard Strauss music - all of it.

 
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