A question on service

DB123

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Generally speaking, I'm not a complainer, but something happened recently and I'm not sure if I should bother mentioning anything, if there is point to mentioning anything, or if what was done was enough (Note: I'm not looking for anything like a discount or freebie or whatever. More curious to know if as a presumably semi-valued client if there is a benefit to either of us in me bringing it up).

So I had seen an SP before and had a great time, like really great. In planning to see her again, I elected for something offered, but far above what I normally do (details will make it obvious to SP in question, defeating the purpose of this) in terms of both time and price.

Everything was arranged and the session began wonderfully. As things moved along, certain...efforts of mine were met with resistance. I'm speaking of FS - kind of a big deal. Like I said I had seen her before and mileage had nothing to do with it. Indeed, everything else (that was advertised as being included) was available. I was told, about a third of the way through the session that, due to an unusual but plausible situation the day before, FS was unavailable (not a monthly situation, I should add), This was told to me apologetically and I was offered a significant and fair discount from the agreed upon rate.

My issue here is that, had I known that this would have happened, I would have rescheduled. Like I said, this was far above what I normally choose to spend and is in fact the most I have spent on a session (shorter than 3 hours, which this definitely was). To have the session I wanted was, in short, what I wanted. The 'new' rate, which again was fair, was more than I would have spent for the service I was now being offered, well past the point where I could have refused and left. What I received was fine, but it was not what I was looking/hoping for and my expectations and anticipation did not include having a 'fine' experience.

I still had a good enough time but left unsatisfied and a little annoyed. I have not seen her since and don't know that I will because this has left a sour taste in my mouth. Shit happens, but I feel like I should have been given the opportunity to decide if I wanted a reduced package, regardless of the rate or if given that it was through no fault of my own and the issue arose the day before, if I wanted to reschedule.

Some additional information: The SP in question is an indy, has very good follow up to questions/PMs, she seems sweet, but professional and is highly unlikely to miss my business as she is fairly popular.

Is there a point in mentioning this to her or simply move on to the next one?
 

thumper18474

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From the limited info you have given I'm gonna say that even though she was...shall we say .....under performing to you expectations she probably felt she could slide by on this visit..
Now if an offer materializes to make up for the short comings or less than stellar visit then no harm no foul
if she doesn't then it's time to move on cus she definately took advantage of you..as always just my opinion..
 

DB123

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so... if you hadn't sort of made some efforts towards fs she might have not said anything at all? she might have simply satisfied you in other ways? and therefore might she not have had to offer a reduced rate?

hmmmm....
Those who know me know that I'll be making some efforts toward FS ;)

Like I said I had seen her before and in this case, she was well aware of what I was expecting and certain aspects of the explanation/apology made it clear that she was planning on mentioning something.

From the limited info you have given I'm gonna say that even though she was...shall we say .....under performing to you expectations she probably felt she could slide by on this visit..
Now if an offer materializes to make up for the short comings or less than stellar visit then no harm no foul
if she doesn't then it's time to move on cus she definately took advantage of you..as always just my opinion..
I don't disagree. Though it was maybe 2 weeks ago and haven't heard boo from her since so I hardly expect anything to come now unsolicited.
 

Titalian

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Those who know me know that I'll be making some efforts toward FS ;)

Like I said I had seen her before and in this case, she was well aware of what I was expecting and certain aspects of the explanation/apology made it clear that she was planning on mentioning something.



I don't disagree. Though it was maybe 2 weeks ago and haven't heard boo from her since so I hardly expect anything to come now unsolicited.
Now you got me all curious, as to who it is. But yes she should have at least told you her circumstances, at the beginning of the session.
 
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jcpro

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Something like that needs to be taken care of before the client shows up. Especially, a repeat client. Time to move on, nobody likes to be taken for granted.
 

DanJ

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I don't disagree. Though it was maybe 2 weeks ago and haven't heard boo from her since so I hardly expect anything to come now unsolicited.
2 weeks on and she hasn't said anything sounds like she either doesn't think anything is wrong, or doesn't care. Either way, providing some more detail in the services offered (and for those curious among us, the reason she couldn't do FS, unless she just had too much sex the day before and was sore) might serve a purpose if she does read this. I wouldn't care at that point myself if she recognized the situation. I've actually had situations before where a mention of something on one of these boards caused the SP to contact me and resolve an issue.
 

Viggo Rasmussen

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She's doing well and it won't affect her business and you have a bad taste in your mouth, chalk it up to experience and move on. I doubt you'd ever recapture the initial experience with her.

It's best you don't mention her name since you've had good experiences as well.
 

NorthernBear

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So an SP waits until you are about 1/3 through your session before telling you that no FS will be provided. No matter who the SP is, FS is not a case of YMMV. There is no excuse at all for not informing you before you arrived for your session.
The fact that it has been two weeks and she still has not contacted you to make amends makes one think that she does not value you as a client.
On the other hand, you have not informed us as to how close personally you are to this girl in terms of comfort level. Many reputable SPs will not contact a client without his prior consent. She may be honouring your privacy.
Call her back and see what she will do about atoning for your previous time together. She might not even know that you were disappointed. Her response should give you an answer as to whether or not she is worthy of another repeat visit.
 

Celticman

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I think you were cheated. If she knew that she could not provide FS, she should have given you the option to cancel ahead of time or at the door (As Jess stated). Seems like the lure of a multi-hour fee was too enticing to her. I am not impressed that only as it became obvious that she could not provide FS that then, and only then, she offered a discount. This is a form of bait and switch and if it happened to me I would post a fair but factual review of the Indy. I know I would like to avoid her.
 
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Titalian

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Generally speaking, I'm not a complainer, but something happened recently and I'm not sure if I should bother mentioning anything, if there is point to mentioning anything, or if what was done was enough (Note: I'm not looking for anything like a discount or freebie or whatever. More curious to know if as a presumably semi-valued client if there is a benefit to either of us in me bringing it up).

So I had seen an SP before and had a great time, like really great. In planning to see her again, I elected for something offered, but far above what I normally do (details will make it obvious to SP in question, defeating the purpose of this) in terms of both time and price.

Everything was arranged and the session began wonderfully. As things moved along, certain...efforts of mine were met with resistance. I'm speaking of FS - kind of a big deal. Like I said I had seen her before and mileage had nothing to do with it. Indeed, everything else (that was advertised as being included) was available. I was told, about a third of the way through the session that, due to an unusual but plausible situation the day before, FS was unavailable (not a monthly situation, I should add), This was told to me apologetically and I was offered a significant and fair discount from the agreed upon rate.

My issue here is that, had I known that this would have happened, I would have rescheduled. Like I said, this was far above what I normally choose to spend and is in fact the most I have spent on a session (shorter than 3 hours, which this definitely was). To have the session I wanted was, in short, what I wanted. The 'new' rate, which again was fair, was more than I would have spent for the service I was now being offered, well past the point where I could have refused and left. What I received was fine, but it was not what I was looking/hoping for and my expectations and anticipation did not include having a 'fine' experience.

I still had a good enough time but left unsatisfied and a little annoyed. I have not seen her since and don't know that I will because this has left a sour taste in my mouth. Shit happens, but I feel like I should have been given the opportunity to decide if I wanted a reduced package, regardless of the rate or if given that it was through no fault of my own and the issue arose the day before, if I wanted to reschedule.

Some additional information: The SP in question is an indy, has very good follow up to questions/PMs, she seems sweet, but professional and is highly unlikely to miss my business as she is fairly popular.

Is there a point in mentioning this to her or simply move on to the next one?
I kept re-reading your post, and you seem to be at odds with this, My guess is you genuinely like this girl. Given that you have not mentioned who she is,
and you also have not written a negative review. And you have come here for suggestions. Knowing you thats a first !!
I say call her and get it out of your system, And see how she reacts and what she has to say.
 
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Viggo Rasmussen

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If you decide to call her and see if you can get compensation, don't talk about a bad review if it isn't received.
That's not what review boards are for.
 

JoeyJames

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I'd agree with just about everything here. Not knowing the situation, or who she is or how long she's been doing this, it's hard to say if she was trying to slip by, bait and switch, or take advantage, or if she is just new and clueless... Either way, I agree that it sounds like this has bothered you enough to ask about it, and quite frankly it may be helpful to her to know that this isn't an OK business practice, whether she's new and clueless or was trying to pull a fast one. Only you know if it's really worth it to you to contact her, but I think it's fair to contact her, let her know she put you in an awkward and unfair position, and see if you can find some sort of resolution.

Everyone's hobbying and work relationships are different, some are more of a relationship than others, and I know for sure that if I'd upset a regular client through my own stupidity, I would have wanted to know about it... I'm not saying that's the case here, but you never know. I think a discussion can totally work in situations like this for some client-SP relationships.
 

wangbang

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Sometimes the urge to fill the schedule and maximize income overwhelms common sense.

A couple of months ago I asked someone if she could do an hour that evening. She says no, can only do a half. I text her back and pass as it was a long drive and I wasn't into doing just a half. She texts me a while later and says okay, come for an hour. I get there and the first words out of her mouth are "I can only do a half". What the fuck!

I tell her I am just going to hit an S/C instead and she tells me I owe her for a half. Needless to say, I left, she sent a bunch of pissy texts and if my number is on do not book lists I simply don't care.
 

JoeyJames

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Sometimes the urge to fill the schedule and maximize income overwhelms common sense.

A couple of months ago I asked someone if she could do an hour that evening. She says no, can only do a half. I text her back and pass as it was a long drive and I wasn't into doing just a half. She texts me a while later and says okay, come for an hour. I get there and the first words out of her mouth are "I can only do a half". What the fuck!

I tell her I am just going to hit an S/C instead and she tells me I owe her for a half. Needless to say, I left, she sent a bunch of pissy texts and if my number is on do not book lists I simply don't care.
Wow. Your first sentence there is far more understanding than I would be. Respect and professionalism should be expected from all sides.
 

DB123

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I'd agree with just about everything here. Not knowing the situation, or who she is or how long she's been doing this, it's hard to say if she was trying to slip by, bait and switch, or take advantage, or if she is just new and clueless... Either way, I agree that it sounds like this has bothered you enough to ask about it, and quite frankly it may be helpful to her to know that this isn't an OK business practice, whether she's new and clueless or was trying to pull a fast one. Only you know if it's really worth it to you to contact her, but I think it's fair to contact her, let her know she put you in an awkward and unfair position, and see if you can find some sort of resolution.

Everyone's hobbying and work relationships are different, some are more of a relationship than others, and I know for sure that if I'd upset a regular client through my own stupidity, I would have wanted to know about it... I'm not saying that's the case here, but you never know. I think a discussion can totally work in situations like this for some client-SP relationships.
A voice I've missed and an opinion I respect :)

She's fairly new, under a year for sure, but I wouldn't say clueless at all. I'm torn between thinking it was aids guided attempt to honour a commitment and an attitude somewhere along the lines of "what's the difference, he'll be back anyway. I really don't know...

I'm not sure if I will bother or not. Yes, I've enjoyed my times with her (not JoeyJames enjoyed, mind you ;) ) but I can easily count my visits on one hand.

Like I mentioned before, it's not about compensation.
 

JoeyJames

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A voice I've missed and an opinion I respect :)

She's fairly new, under a year for sure, but I wouldn't say clueless at all. I'm torn between thinking it was aids guided attempt to honour a commitment and an attitude somewhere along the lines of "what's the difference, he'll be back anyway. I really don't know...

I'm not sure if I will bother or not. Yes, I've enjoyed my times with her (not JoeyJames enjoyed, mind you ;) ) but I can easily count my visits on one hand.

Like I mentioned before, it's not about compensation.
Hey :) You never know what it might be... I wouldn't assume too much. I know that for me in the beginning when I was with agencies, I always tried to overextend myself, not out of greed, but out of some weird sense of trying to please people and make everyone happy. It took a while for me to figure out that I was doing everyone a disservice. For a smart girl, it took me a little too long to figure that out. lol. I know I'm being all optimistic by saying that, and that's not always my attitude, but I do tend to think you're a good judge of character & I realize that it's not about the $, but it sounds like the "relationship" is something that might be worth saving, if it's worth asking advice on.

On the other hand, you could get a shite response from her, in which case: her loss!
 

JoeyJames

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Not all sps have the maturity or intelligence or decency of character for that matter to admit they made an error though. I've seen sps come to pretty rash conclusions. I think this stems from the prejudices that develop from having to deal with real assholes over time. My take on wang bang is he's a true gentleman. Thanks for chiming in :) it's good to have you back darling ;)
Oh for sure... Not all people of any profession do, and you're right that some of us have our reactive times thanks to stress. I've seen some crazy SP and client flip outs, as I think we all have! ;) Just to clarify: I'm on wang bang's side here. He was far more understanding than I would be if someone wasted my time that way. And so far as DB123's issue goes, I agree you never know what might come of it, but it seemed like he might be open to trying to salvage a decent thing, so why not give it a go? And it's my treat to be back :)
 

DB123

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Hey :) You never know what it might be... I wouldn't assume too much. I know that for me in the beginning when I was with agencies, I always tried to overextend myself, not out of greed, but out of some weird sense of trying to please people and make everyone happy. It took a while for me to figure out that I was doing everyone a disservice. For a smart girl, it took me a little too long to figure that out. lol. I know I'm being all optimistic by saying that, and that's not always my attitude, but I do tend to think you're a good judge of character & I realize that it's not about the $, but it sounds like the "relationship" is something that might be worth saving, if it's worth asking advice on.

On the other hand, you could get a shite response from her, in which case: her loss!
As always, you give me something to think about :)

Just throwing this out there, keeping your status or location or whatever as sex addicted gfe/pse creates false hope... ;)
 
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