A Friend Said This Isn't Gay...

[NotADcotor]

According to the Church sex should be between a man and his wife, or a priest and his altar boy, the way Jebus obviously intended.
The church will not stand with sin. It will move it from parish to parish but it will not stand with it.

Also it isn't gay if you are Irish, there are no gays in Ireland. There are flamboyant singing men but no gays.

 

[JackBurton]

Sucking a cock doesn’t make you gay. Loving a man makes you gay.
Love is love, sone people spend their whole lives looking for love and when they find it, it shouldn’t be the butt of thinly veiled homophobia.

Grow up homophobes and grow a pair. Nobody is going to try to turn you gay.

 

[NotADcotor]

Last Monday, there was a Law Society seminar about trans inclusion that featured a ftm trans judge and a ftm law professor. The traditional rules are going away fast and in 20 or 30 years, society won't even bother with categories like gay or straight.

Yeah because that seems like a totally unbiased panel to figure out future trends.

I'll take wishful thinking [and a cure for pancreatic cancer] for 200 Alex.

 

[onomatopoeia]

Last Monday, there was a Law Society seminar about trans inclusion that featured a ftm trans judge and a ftm law professor. The traditional rules are going away fast and in 20 or 30 years, society won't even bother with categories like gay or straight.

I congratulate JCPro and Wazup and other for their candour and honesty in helping to destigmatize non mainstream sexuality and bringing it into the spotlight without embarrassment.

Q: What do you call a gay opposing counsel in criminal court?
A: My friend of Dorothy.

 

[onomatopoeia]

From a media point of view, gay men are monogamous, domestic, fashionable, proud, assertive and persecuted.

From a woman's point of view, they are nonthreatening, attentive, compassionate, empathetic and non-toxic.

From many men's points of view, they are predatory, deceptive, indiscreet, timid, untrustworthy and passive-aggressive.

The media presents them as an homogeneous group, where all share the virtues of some, rather than as individuals who have a variety of different motives, some benign, some malignant.

News flash: Lots of gay men are not only attracted to underage teens who may be naive and confused about their sexuality, they try to persuade them to experiment with their alternative lifestyle. Gay men started hitting on me when I was about 13, and still do, from time to time. A lot of them are attracted to straight men, as a challenge, and use subterfuge to entice the bi-curious. Those aren't the majority, but they are a sizable subsection of the whole. This makes men who do not share their tastes suspicious of any other men who act overly friendly towards them without first establishing friendship through other methods.

A little more than fifty years ago, being a 'top' was still a Criminal Code violation in Canada, and a hundred years ago, it could earn a life sentence from the wrong Judge. I really don't care what consenting adults do with each other, when I'm not one of the participants. At the same time, however, I can be disappointed by those who engage in acts that I find to be personally distasteful. To me, it's ironic that some of the members here who openly espouse the doctrine that 'you can't put labels on people' are also the first ones to put a label on me, because my opinions differ from theirs. In my book, that's called hypocrisy.

 

[wigglee]

Whats wrong with that

Some people purely decide to not label themselves in one set box

Sexuality can be very fluid

On that side note I will always respect the pronouns someone tells me to use

Also what is wrong if some wishes to be with a person who is FTM?

nothing wrong with anybody fucking anybody, I was just showing the seeming incongruency of someone sayng it is gay to fuck a mtf ( like pictured in post 27) but ok to fuck a ftm with a beard and a vagina.

 

[y2kmark]

Gay for the stay?

If you can't be with the one(s) you love, love the one your with. But not happy about it. Might be easy to give up sex altogether with the need to concentrate on finding food and such pedestrian pursuits, though...

 

[y2kmark]

From a media point of view, gay men are monogamous, domestic, fashionable, proud, assertive and persecuted.

From a woman's point of view, they are nonthreatening, attentive, compassionate, empathetic and non-toxic.

From many men's points of view, they are predatory, deceptive, indiscreet, timid, untrustworthy and passive-aggressive.

The media presents them as an homogeneous group, where all share the virtues of some, rather than as individuals who have a variety of different motives, some benign, some malignant.

News flash: Lots of gay men are not only attracted to underage teens who may be naive and confused about their sexuality, they try to persuade them to experiment with their alternative lifestyle. Gay men started hitting on me when I was about 13, and still do, from time to time. A lot of them are attracted to straight men, as a challenge, and use subterfuge to entice the bi-curious. Those aren't the majority, but they are a sizable subsection of the whole. This makes men who do not share their tastes suspicious of any other men who act overly friendly towards them without first establishing friendship through other methods.

A little more than fifty years ago, being a 'top' was still a Criminal Code violation in Canada, and a hundred years ago, it could earn a life sentence from the wrong Judge. I really don't care what consenting adults do with each other, when I'm not one of the participants. At the same time, however, I can be disappointed by those who engage in acts that I find to be personally distasteful. To me, it's ironic that some of the members here who openly espouse the doctrine that 'you can't put labels on people' are also the first ones to put a label on me, because my opinions differ from theirs. In my book, that's called hypocrisy.

The media portrays gay men as monogamous? Got sources for that???

 

[onomatopoeia]

The media portrays gay men as monogamous? Got sources for that???

Modern Family TV series?

 

[y2kmark]

Obviously it’s not gay, I could just never understand why he thought that.

If both parties are in agreement, then why is it not polite? Different strokes (literally) for different folks...

And so on, and so on and scooby doobie do wah...

 

[y2kmark]

Modern Family TV series?

Less fictional than Qanon, I guess...

 

[jcpro]

I'm glad I don't have those urges. Personally, I'd rather take a .45 slug to the temple than suck another guy's dick; I wouldn't be able to respect myself afterwards. But that's just me.

I don't like gay men. I'm not saying that I dislike them, but my reaction to them is usually in the slightly negative to neutral range, with some lukewarm. Specific individual gay men is a different scale, some I abhor, others only as a source for humour, most where their sexuality is irrelevant to me. If I see a handsome man, my private reaction, if any, might be 'wish I looked like him'.

I find it difficult to repect openly gay men, mainly because they have willingly succumbed to temptations that I would resist, which diminishes them as men, from my perspective. I see them as weaker, rather than as peers.

There's a reason why "The Lord's Prayer" is repeated over and over, but more importantly, collectively, in Christianity. "...and lead me not into temptation" - that's what much of the discussion in this thread is about. Consider that line for a moment - why would God lead a man into temptation? This is a mantra for the latently bi-curious heterosexual man to resist base urges. You repeat it over and over until eventually you think you thought it on your own.

Well, the Christian Bible also prohibits sex outside of the institution of marriage. My Bible doesn't prohibit homosexuality, but it does prohibit the homosexual ACT....and masturbation. On the other hand it is silent on the consequences of cuming in the throat of either sex or lesbianism.

 

[angrymime666]

this thread provides a lot of perspectives. ultimately it only matter to the individual whether they decide they are gay or not.

I would like to share my experience and thoughts though.

Im attracted to femininity. young soft, cooperative, small stature, height weight proportional and a nice set of tits. there is some flex in the tits department. I dont find masculine presenting women attractive , nor do I find men attractive. I am not attracted to older women.

I became interested in shemales and ladyboys. Im very particular about my attraction to them as many shemales and ladyboys lack the attributes I consider feminine. a hard jaw line, tall a masculine physic, no boobs, a less high pitched voice.

my first try at a shemale was in canada was with amity a shemale that works out of toronto. she can be found on she male canada. if you walked by her in a room you wouldnt be able to tell she was a dude. flawless body and extremely feminine imo. although if you look at their hands and feet its easy to differentiate them from a bio woman.

my second was a another shemale in toronto. her real time appearance was rather disappointing compared to her pics. catfished and did not enjoy myself as I found her manly.

then I went to thailand. that opened a can of worms. since then I have become even more picky when it comes to biological women, ladyboys and shemales in the requirement of finding them attractive and feminine.

in a nutshell, I want to fuck what Im attracted to. be it a real doll, a woman, a ladyboy or shemale. hell if I was attracted to a ham sandwich I would put my dick in it.

am I gay. if we are technical about it, yes. I had sex with a bio man. however, there are many ladyboys who have had the chop and blend in quite nicely with the bio ladies. many gents have mistakenly sampled a post op lady boy. so does that mean they are technically gay. I have no interest in ftm.

there are very few people I have told about this not because of fear but the change in demeanor I see in those I do tell. this comes from both men and women. moreso women.

I dont put much thought into it any more as what purpose would be served to categorize myself. Ive never been a fan of boxes. I listen to my small head and stay within the scope of the law.

 

[jcpro]

this thread provides a lot of perspectives. ultimately it only matter to the individual whether they decide they are gay or not.

I would like to share my experience and thoughts though.

Im attracted to femininity. young soft, cooperative, small stature, height weight proportional and a nice set of tits. there is some flex in the tits department. I dont find masculine presenting women attractive , nor do I find men attractive. I am not attracted to older women.

I became interested in shemales and ladyboys. Im very particular about my attraction to them as many shemales and ladyboys lack the attributes I consider feminine. a hard jaw line, tall a masculine physic, no boobs, a less high pitched voice.

my first try at a shemale was in canada was with amity a shemale that works out of toronto. she can be found on she male canada. if you walked by her in a room you wouldnt be able to tell she was a dude. flawless body and extremely feminine imo. although if you look at their hands and feet its easy to differentiate them from a bio woman.

my second was a another shemale in toronto. her real time appearance was rather disappointing compared to her pics. catfished and did not enjoy myself as I found her manly.

then I went to thailand. that opened a can of worms. since then I have become even more picky when it comes to biological women, ladyboys and shemales in the requirement of finding them attractive and feminine.

in a nutshell, I want to fuck what Im attracted to. be it a real doll, a woman, a ladyboy or shemale. hell if I was attracted to a ham sandwich I would put my dick in it.

am I gay. if we are technical about it, yes. I had sex with a bio man. however, there are many ladyboys who have had the chop and blend in quite nicely with the bio ladies. many gents have mistakenly sampled a post op lady boy. so does that mean they are technically gay. I have no interest in ftm.

there are very few people I have told about this not because of fear but the change in demeanor I see in those I do tell. this comes from both men and women. moreso women.

I dont put much thought into it any more as what purpose would be served to categorize myself. Ive never been a fan of boxes. I listen to my small head and stay within the scope of the law.

In other words, your "lust" has standards. I personally look for performance when dating or renting. A regular lady can be of lesser quality in the looks department (within reason) as long as she has skill and stamina as I don't cum easy and need a bit extra time and stimulation. In shemales I look for top notch feminine appearance...and I bit larger dick(I have large hands). But, if she's manly looking I walk. Toronto's Zara beats 90% of the female escorts in the looks department and has a personality to match- smallish dick, though. The whole gay-not gay argument is of little importance to me- I consider this a fetish and I'm not attracted to men at all.

 

[squeezer]

In other words, your "lust" has standards. I personally look for performance when dating or renting. A regular lady can be of lesser quality in the looks department (within reason) as long as she has skill and stamina as I don't cum easy and need a bit extra time and stimulation. In shemales I look for top notch feminine appearance...and I bit larger dick(I have large hands). But, if she's manly looking I walk. Toronto's Zara beats 90% of the female escorts in the looks department and has a personality to match- smallish dick, though. The whole gay-not gay argument is of little importance to me- I consider this a fetish and I'm not attracted to men at all.

No judgement but only pointing out the fact of the 2 bolded comments conflict with one another.

 

[Tomoreno]

WHEN YOU FIND OUT THAT PEOPLE WHO SHARE YOU POLITICAL VIEWS MIGHT BE GAY

 

[jcpro]

No judgement but only pointing out the fact of the 2 bolded comments conflict with one another.

To you, yes. To me it makes perfect sense.

 

[Jenesis]

The media portrays gay men as monogamous? Got sources for that???

Lol. Right?!?!? Gay men as some of the most prolific cheaters. Many have open relationship. They are men. They like and think about sex just like any other man. They are driven as much by sex as a straight man. They just like to fuck other men. Not all of course. Like us, they have all types of relationships but it is just much easier to cheat in a world of men. They see sex differently in general. It is nothing to just quickly stomp out an itch.

He is so homophobic it is actually scary that people with his mindset still exist. This is why PRYDE is so important.

Now I’m off to watch some RuPauls Drag Race Down Under!!! It is snatch game day!!!!!! LMAO

If we are talking media as in TV shows, this one certainly does not promote that. In case anyone is wondering, RuPaul Charles is in an open marriage.

 

[Insidious Von]

Modern Family TV series?

I watched an episode of Beat Bobby Flay that was downright bizarre. Jesse Tyler Ferguson (Modern Family) was a guest celebrity judge along with another gay judge, they were annoying as fuck. They wouldn't stop dancing around and being outrageous. The worst part, they were even funny, they made the show about them and not the competing chefs. For the record, I get it, I accept it...I don't need the metaphorical stinkface!

On the flipside, I've been streaming The Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt, Tina Fey has lost none of her gift for biting social satire...and Titus Andromadon is arguably the best character she's ever created. Brilliantly played by Titus Burgess.

 

[Insidious Von]

Maybe I wouldn't have been so annoyed if two fat guys had been competing. One of the chefs was Mika Leon, it seemed to me that Mitchell from Modern Family and his co-gay celebrity judge purposely minimized her moment with their non-stop dancing. She didn't get a chance to take on Bobby Flay - I don't think she'll be coming back. Hot House (Casa Caliente) is one of Miami's most popular Cuban restaurants.