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7 Deadly Sins You Must Stop Committing While Driving

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Causing an accident at 140 km/h makes way more sense than letting go of your macho, ego by pulling over, because drivers behind you, want to go faster.
Don't tailgate me then. You might intimidate an old woman but you will get my bumper in your teeth if you try it with me. Don't complain about macho behavior when you are the one trying to intimidate people into moving, you can't take what you dish out.

If you catch up to me, I KNOW. If it makes sense, I will let you by. If I don't, there is a reason, chill. If you try and intimidate me, fuck you.
 

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Don't tailgate me then. You might intimidate an old woman but you will get my bumper in your teeth if you try it with me. Don't complain about macho behavior when you are the one trying to intimidate people into moving, you can't take what you dish out.

If you catch up to me, I KNOW. If it makes sense, I will let you by. If I don't, there is a reason, chill. If you try and intimidate me, fuck you.
Some tailgate to save gas because they believe that they will save on the air drag. Truckers do this to each other, I don't think it works as well with personal vehicles but some ppl just have crazy ideas and habits. Yeah also some have power struggle issues and want to intimidate....I just drive regular and could give two fucks if this guy is on my tail or not. But it the fucker actually hits me then it's on, I sure hope I never get into this situation.
 

rhuarc29

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If they tail gate me, I am not getting out of the way, I am going to apply the brakes.
While I share your sentiment about tailgaters, especially when they don't pass when given the opportunity, applying your brakes is a bad idea unless the road is clear except for you and the tailgater. Unlikely, given that he's tailgating! Any unnecessary application of brakes is bad. Even if you apply mild braking, the idiot behind you may overreact, slamming his, causing the guy behind him to slam his, and so on and so forth, and someone down the line pays the price, not necessarily the guy most deserving.

It takes a person a margin of a second to register brake lights, then another margin of a second to register how fast the driver in front is slowing down. If the guy's only a margin of a second behind you, he's going to slam on his brakes because he doesn't have the spare time to figure out how hard you're braking. While that's his own damn fault, there are other drivers at stake on the road.
 

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I hate driver who cruise in the left lane when they are going no faster than the lane to the right. i.s., two vehicles side by side going the same speed with no one in front of the left lane driver. I wish Ontario would adopt Quebec's law on this.
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between the slow drivers and the tailgaters, it's the slow drivers who clog the roads, and if you drive with half the energy you type, you should not even be noticing the tailgaters as they would be busy pushing the slow assholes forward for the benefit of the community.
 

fuji

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Some tailgate to save gas because they believe that they will save on the air drag.
It is incredibly dangerous. If something happens in front of me and I have to brake suddenly, the tailgater will push me into whatever is happening, no doubt it won't end well.

So I routinely test the reflexes of tailgaters braking suddenly when I am ready and the situation in front of me is reasonably clear.

Tailgaters are the worst menace on the road after people driving drunk and people texting.
 

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While I share your sentiment about tailgaters, especially when they don't pass when given the opportunity, applying your brakes is a bad idea unless the road is clear except for you and the tailgater. Unlikely, given that he's tailgating! Any unnecessary application of brakes is bad. Even if you apply mild braking, the idiot behind you may overreact, slamming his, causing the guy behind him to slam his, and so on and so forth, and someone down the line pays the price, not necessarily the guy most deserving.

It takes a person a margin of a second to register brake lights, then another margin of a second to register how fast the driver in front is slowing down. If the guy's only a margin of a second behind you, he's going to slam on his brakes because he doesn't have the spare time to figure out how hard you're braking. While that's his own damn fault, there are other drivers at stake on the road.
Then he shouldn't tailgate. But you have a point, I will check my mirror to see if the road is clear behind the tail gate next time before I hit the brakes. I want to put his heart in his throat, not hurt him.
 

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Don't tailgate me then. You might intimidate an old woman but you will get my bumper in your teeth if you try it with me. Don't complain about macho behavior when you are the one trying to intimidate people into moving, you can't take what you dish out.

If you catch up to me, I KNOW. If it makes sense, I will let you by. If I don't, there is a reason, chill. If you try and intimidate me, fuck you.
That rule was made especially for inconsiderate, stubborn assholes, like you, who know that the right thing to do, is to pull over, but won't because someone had to tell you the RIGHT THING TO DO. You can't take criticism of your inconsiderate driving behaviour. That's what's known as "King of the Road" syndrome.
 

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That rule was made especially for inconsiderate, stubborn assholes, like you, who know that the right thing to do, is to pull over, but won't because someone had to tell you the RIGHT THING TO DO. You can't take criticism of your inconsiderate driving behaviour. That's what's known as "King of the Road" syndrome.
Tailgating is illegal. Talk to me about rules when you learn to follow them. Like I said, you can't take what you dish out. You want to push others around, but you cry to mommy when they push back. You get all huffy that others don't follow rules (that aren't even rules in Ontario) but you make no attempt to follow the rules yourself.

You are a bad driver and if you ever tailgate me there is s good chance your insurance premiums are going to go waaaaay up.

Now if you come up a polite and respectable distance behind me and show a little patience while I pass the slow Toyota, I will politely pull right and let you by. I am also the guy who makes space for you when you need to merge. But I give back what get, play a game with me, and I will win it.
 

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Tailgating is illegal. Talk to me about rules when you learn to follow them. Like I said, you can't take what you dish out. You want to push others around, but you cry to mommy when they push back. You get all huffy that others don't follow rules (that aren't even rules in Ontario) but you make no attempt to follow the rules yourself.

You are a bad driver and if you ever tailgate me there is s good chance your insurance premiums are going to go waaaaay up.

Now it you come up a polite and respectable distance behind me and show a little patience while I pass the slow Toyota, I will politely pull right and let you by. I am also the guy who makes space for you when you need to merge. But I give back what get, play a game with me, and I will win it.
Like I said, "King of the Road" syndrome.
 

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play a game with me, and I will win it.
because brake checking in front of a faster and more agressive driver would not result in reciprocation
 

fuji

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because brake checking in front of a faster and more agressive driver would not result in reciprocation
Let him try. If he wants to do anything too stupid my dashcam will help remove him from the highway for good and if he tries to overtake me, assuming he can, I am obviously going to be ready, I already know he is a menace since he was tailgating so I will give him extra distance. I don't tailgate so he cannot just do the same thing back to me, and if he actually tries swerving without signaling then he will get a reckless or careless charge.
 

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because brake checking in front of a faster and more agressive driver would not result in reciprocation
I would never do that - it's wreckless and just plain retarded. I'm just trying to get from A to B, not play silly games.

I think it's obvious from the these posts who the real sinner is.
 

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littering??? in the top seven??? ahead of drunk driving which is not on the list????

1 rolling non stop at stop sign

eventually this will cause problems

2 driving too fast in residential or in parking lots

3 running yellows

like number 1 this common practice will cause an accident eventually



safe driving and unsafe driving are similar

they are both ingrained habits
 

rhuarc29

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1 rolling non stop at stop sign

eventually this will cause problems

2 driving too fast in residential or in parking lots

3 running yellows

like number 1 this common practice will cause an accident eventually
I have to disagree with #1 and #3, as I think they're minor problems. Certainly not top 3. Actually, in the case of the rolling stop, I don't think it's a problem at all! The goal of a stop sign is to ensure you check that the way is clear. The stop itself is not important.

My top 5:

1) Not being courteous - It covers so much, that it could be a top 5 by itself. It includes moving over for faster traffic, leaving space for merging vehicles, letting cars in from side streets when traffic is heavy, etc.
2) Failing to signal - Most people would think this is minor, but I think failing to signal is a big problem. Signalling is about notifying everyone around you about your intentions. I don't know about you, but I don't trust other drivers to figure out what I'm going to do without my signalling.
3) Tailgating - I am extremely aggressive at moving over for faster traffic. Even if such a move will mildly hold me up, I'll move over so I'm not holding up someone else. See #1. So if someone's tailgating ME, they're doing it wrong. Even worse if they have the chance to pass and fail to take it. What's the point of driving so dangerously close if you intend to drive the same speed anyway?
4) Not maintaining speed / braking unnecessarily - The latter is mostly a problem on freeways, as we tend to drive so close to each other that when you see brake lights, you almost automatically apply your own. This has an accordion effect down the line of cars and can cause some serious problems.
5) Speeding up when someone passes you - Seriously? Do you think I'm going to forget you were driving so slow just moments before and regret passing you because now you're riding my ass? Or was that a sad attempt at keeping me behind you?
 

Yoga Face

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I have to disagree with #1 and #3, as I think they're minor problems. Certainly not top 3. Actually, in the case of the rolling stop, I don't think it's a problem at all! The goal of a stop sign is to ensure you check that the way is clear. The stop itself is not important.
no

eventually one of the minor infractions will cost you

it is a matter of time


also not adjusting speed for road conditions

it amazes me the speed of traffic in a fog

this occurs because drivers have no reference points to judge their speed
 

fuji

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2) Failing to signal - Most people would think this is minor, but I think failing to signal is a big problem. Signalling is about notifying everyone around you about your intentions. I don't know about you, but I don't trust other drivers to figure out what I'm going to do without my signalling.
This is a big one. In theory you should not be making a move unless you know it is safe, having looked around, checked your blind spot. But sometimes you might miss something. Signalling gives other drivers a chance to correct your fuckup, which while bad, is not nearly as bad as dying in fire.
 

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I have had that and it never distracted me from my driving.
Me either...and it routinely made the 401 from London to Toronto a much more interesting drive back in school
 
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