5,800 Fully Vaccinated People Have Caught COVID-19 in U.S., CDC Says

[GameBoy27]

About 5,800 people who have been vaccinated against coronavirus have become infected anyway, the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention tells CNN.

Some became seriously ill and 74 people died, the CDC said. It said 396 -- 7% -- of those who got infected after they were vaccinated required hospitalization.

This is the CDC's first public accounting of breakthrough cases, and the agency is searching for patterns based on patient age and gender, location, type of vaccine, variants and other factors.

"So far, about 5,800 breakthrough cases have been reported to CDC. To date, no unexpected patterns have been identified in case demographics or vaccine characteristics," the CDC told CNN via email.

About 77 million people in the U.S. are fully vaccinated against coronavirus, according to a CNN analysis of CDC data. The CDC's reports on breakthrough cases will lag day-to-day reports of vaccines given, so many, if not most, of those breakthrough cases will have happened weeks ago.

Nonetheless, the total represents a very small percentage of those who have been vaccinated.

Breakthrough cases are expected. The vaccines are not 100% effective in preventing infections and as tens of millions of people are vaccinated, more and more such cases will be reported.

Pfizer/BioNTech's vaccine was 95% effective in preventing symptomatic disease in clinical trials, and earlier this month the companies said real-life data in the US shows the vaccine is more than 91% effective against disease with any symptoms for six months. Moderna's vaccine was 94% effective in preventing symptomatic illness in trials, and 90% effective in real life use. Johnson & Johnson's vaccine was 66% overall globally in trials, and 72% effective at preventing disease in the US.

CDC will be looking for clues about who is most prone to become infected despite having been vaccinated.

"Vaccine breakthrough infections were reported among all people of all ages eligible for vaccination. However, a little over 40% of the infections were in people 60 or more years of age," the CDC said.

Most, 65%, were female and 29% of the so-called breakthrough infections were asymptomatic. "CDC is monitoring reported cases for clustering by patient demographics, geographic location, time since vaccination, vaccine type or lot number, and SARS-CoV-2 lineage," the CDC said.

Plus, samples from cases will be tested to see how many are caused by variants and if so, which ones.

"CDC has developed a national COVID-19 vaccine breakthrough database where state health department investigators can currently enter, store, and manage data for cases in their jurisdiction," the CDC said.

"Vaccine breakthrough infections make up a small percentage of people who are fully vaccinated. CDC recommends that all eligible people get a COVID-19 vaccine as soon as one is available to them. CDC also continues to recommend people who have been fully vaccinated should keep taking precautions in public places, like wearing a mask, staying at least six feet apart from others, avoiding crowds and poorly ventilated spaces, and washing their hands often."

Outside experts agreed.

The likelihood of these "very rare" infections depends on how much virus is circulating within a community, Dr. Kawsar Talaat, an infectious disease physician and assistant professor at Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health, told CNN.

"That's the whole point of getting to herd immunity," Talaat said. "Because once we get to a point where enough people in the community are vaccinated, then if somebody develops Covid in that community, the people around them are protected and it's much harder for that person to spread the virus to somebody else, and therefore the transmission stops."

Less transmission means fewer breakthrough cases, said Dr. Carlos del Rio, executive associate dean at Emory University School of Medicine.

"There is currently a lot of transmission in many parts of the country. Vaccines will help decrease that," del Rio said. "Get vaccinated as soon as you can and help control this pandemic."

https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coron...ght-covid-19-anyway-in-u-s-cdc-says-1.5388245

 

[PeteOsborne]

Can some one double check my math here?
Efficacy of the best vaccine is said to be 95%.
77,000,000 shots given.
5,800 people contracted the virus.
Is that not 99.0025% efficacy.
Also it doesn't state in the article whether they were mutated or original virus strains.
What was the point of this article?

 

[GameBoy27]

Can some one double check my math here?
Efficacy of the best vaccine is said to be 95%.
77,000,000 shots given.
5,800 people contracted the virus.
Is that not 99.0025% efficacy.
Also it doesn't state in the article whether they were mutated or original virus strains.
What was the point of this article?

The total represents a very small percentage of those who have been vaccinated. Which is a good thing. Samples from cases will be tested to see how many are caused by variants and if so, which ones.

 

[SchlongConery]

Can some one double check my math here?
Efficacy of the best vaccine is said to be 95%.
77,000,000 shots given.
5,800 people contracted the virus.
Is that not 99.0025% efficacy.
Also it doesn't state in the article whether they were mutated or original virus strains.
What was the point of this article?

Your (or my!) math is off a bit Pete. 99.0025% leaves 76,8075 sick people.

But 5800 people of 77,000,000 is 0.00007532467

Looks to me more like 99.9999246753% real world efficacy.

The generally accepted/published numbers are statistics from Drug Trials/Studies.

I think the point of the article was simply to publish CDC information.

 

[PeteOsborne]

Your (or my!) math is off a bit Pete. 99.0025% leaves 76,8075 sick people.

But 5800 people of 77,000,000 is

Looks to me more like 99.9999246753% real world efficacy.

The generally accepted/published numbers are statistics from Drug Trials/Studies.

I think the point of the article was simply to publish CDC information.

I ran the numbers a few times and 5775 is .0075% of 77,000,000

 

[bver_hunter]

I ran the numbers a few times and 5775 is .0075% of 77,000,000

Yes, your mathematical calculation is correct.

So it is 77,000,000 - 5775 / 77,000,000 x 100 = 99.992468% efficacy, meaning that just 0.00753247 % were affected by the virus.
However, just 77 million are fully vaccinated. There are many more who have had at least one dose. So the above infections percentage could be even lower if some of those infected had just one dose. That is because you have to take the gross figures of those who have had at least one dose of the vaccine. i.e around 210 million Americans.

 

[lenny2]

Can some one double check my math here?
Efficacy of the best vaccine is said to be 95%.
77,000,000 shots given.
5,800 people contracted the virus.
Is that not 99.0025% efficacy.
Also it doesn't state in the article whether they were mutated or original virus strains.
What was the point of this article?

The real efficacy would calculate based on the number of people who've received the vaccine AND were thereafter exposed to the virus (after a period of multiple [2 or 3?] weeks had passed since the vaccine was administered), not just "shots given", wouldn't it?

 

[shack]

The real efficacy would calculate based on the number of people who've received the vaccine AND were thereafter exposed to the virus (after a period of multiple [2 or 3?] weeks had passed since the vaccine was administered), not just "shots given", wouldn't it?

I believe that it would. Probably no way to test that in the real world. You'd need to have almost perfect contact tracing.

 

[doggyorcg]

The real efficacy would calculate based on the number of people who've received the vaccine AND were thereafter exposed to the virus (after a period of multiple [2 or 3?] weeks had passed since the vaccine was administered), not just "shots given", wouldn't it?

Exactly. Administrating the jab then telling the test subjects to continue wearing masks and social distancing is not helping to demonstrate efficacy. Clearly the world is now run by big pharma’s marketing departments.

 

[NotADcotor]

Exactly. Administrating the jab then telling the test subjects to continue wearing masks and social distancing is not helping to demonstrate efficacy. Clearly the world is now run by big pharma’s marketing departments.

Or maybe
1: They are not 100 percent, double plus so if you don't wait a few weeks after a second jab
2: Unless you have your vaccine status tattooed on your head how do you tell if someone is not wearing a mask because of vaccine status vs just being a dick.
3: It's wearing a mask, it's not asking people to shower with the health inspector in prison.

Poor tom but it's important not to waste soap.

 

[basketcase]

The real efficacy would calculate based on the number of people who've received the vaccine AND were thereafter exposed to the virus (after a period of multiple [2 or 3?] weeks had passed since the vaccine was administered), not just "shots given", wouldn't it?

As they have no idea how many people were exposed to the virus, they have typically used the number of positive cases. It's not like it's ethical to intentionally expose test subject to a potentially deadly virus.

The two week (or 11 day) thing is a valid question so there may be a couple million less people counted in the pool but not enough to even drop the numbers down to even the 90-95% reported from the original mass trials.