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it is constitutional because the actual text does not mention race or religion but geographical locations.
Jim Crow laws never mentioned race, yet the courts found they had a "sham secular purpose" and really did target race. For example they would say things like you could only vote if your grandfather owned property. No mention of race but mostly blacks failed to qualify.

The courts can and do look behind the stated surface intention to see if the law actually targets race or religion.

And this is exactly what the 4th and 9th circuits did in this case, they looked at the campaign statements used to justify the law and found that it was intended to reduce Muslim immigration.
 

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Who makes those decisions, and who decides who gets to make the decisions, currently?

To be clear, i don't agree with most of metal_aug' s philosophy, but you are fooling yourself if you think that our current system avoids these pitfalls.
I wasn't inferring anything, actually.

It was a straight up question in response to his comment "Some things should be left alone and not called for a vote."

I wanted to know how in his mind, which things should or shouldn't be voted on and who decides and how did these decision makers get in that position. I am just curious what his thought process is.
 

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. I am just curious what his thought process is.
I am too. I think its great that he is speaking his mind. Everyone is so guarded even on a forum like this, people adopt a persona and cant seem to let it go.
 

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If only I could become a *temporary* dictator for a few decades, uncontestedly reform the government to my vision for society, then renounce my seat and give it back to the people, then retire peacefully on an island of hookers. I'd be remembered as the savior of the world.
Another great post. You could create another Mount Rushmore for you, Castro, Mao, and Stalin.
 

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Entry of a non-citizen into a country is not a right. It should be allowed to refuse them for any reason or even no reason at all.

Entry of a citizen into their country of citizenship coming from countries that are terrorist breeding grounds should also be refusable, or at least subject to extreme vetting and surveillance.
Yeah, whether you're a citizen or not, you shouldn't have rights, if you make metal_aug fearful.
 

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Yeah, whether you're a citizen or not, you shouldn't have rights, if you make metal_aug fearful.
And he is afraid all the time.
 

metal_aug

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Once I was vacationing in Europe a little gypsy fucker tried to pickpocket me. I pushed him away hard, told him to fuck off and stared him down like the piece of shit he is.

Keeping all muslims out would keep a lot of good ones out. But I don't give a shit about them and it would also keep many bad ones out. We have no concrete obligation to let even the ones who are not terrorists in if they are non-citizens.

It's not a negative emotion that makes me want to keep them out. It's the absence of a positive emotion. I have purged myself of irrational compassion
 

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Once I was vacationing in Europe a little gypsy fucker tried to pickpocket me. I pushed him away hard, told him to fuck off and stared him down like the piece of shit he is.

Keeping all muslims out would keep a lot of good ones out. But I don't give a shit about them and it would also keep many bad ones out. We have no concrete obligation to let even the ones who are not terrorists in if they are non-citizens.

I have purged myself of irrational compassion
But clearly have not it replaced it with anything rational, illustrated by your choice to stick into this thread the irrelevant story about meeting a pickpocket in Europe.
 

metal_aug

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I was just demonstrating what a badass I am. He was actually taller and younger than me with a very hate-able shitface. And obviously a benefit seeking parasite in that very nice European city I was in. I was not scared of him, he is beneath me. And I would keep all his kind out, even the "non-criminal" ones, if it will keep him out, cuz I give 0 fucks.
 

oldjones

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I was just demonstrating what a badass I am. He was actually taller and younger than me with a very hate-able shitface. And obviously a benefit seeking parasite in that very nice European city I was in. I was not scared of him, he is beneath me. And I would keep all his kind out, even the "non-criminal" ones, if it will keep him out, cuz I give 0 fucks.
Thought so; nothing to do with the topic or the Forum. Just foul-mouthed empty boasting.
 

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Thought so; nothing to do with the topic or the Forum. Just foul-mouthed empty boasting.
It's a toss up as to whether James Douglas or metal.aug is going to be banned by the board mods first as a troll.
 

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