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Phil C. McNasty

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And what does that have to do with my post?
My point is aside from a few people with hayfever almost nobody is coughing or sneezing in the summertime.
So your point that it stops droplets is irrelevant.

It should be obvious to even the dumbest person that Covid is spreading through exhaled air, and not droplets.
That would make most of the masks that people are currently wearing completely useless, because the air can escape through the upper parts, the sides and the lower parts of the mask.

I even added a picture to help you understand better

 

Phil C. McNasty

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Here, read this: https://www.sciencemag.org/news/202...d-coronavirus-just-breathing-new-report-finds

You may be able to spread coronavirus just by breathing, new report finds

The National Academy of Sciences (NAS) has given a boost to an unsettling idea: that the novel coronavirus can spread through the air—not just through the large droplets emitted in a cough or sneeze. Though current studies aren’t conclusive, “the results of available studies are consistent with aerosolization of virus from normal breathing,” Harvey Fineberg, who heads a standing committee on Emerging Infectious Diseases and 21st Century Health Threats, wrote in a 1 April letter to Kelvin Droegemeier, head of the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy
 

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Xi, warned Trump and Trumpfart downplayed it and encouraged his dumbass base to not social distance, not wear masks, fight any form of restrictions. 209k dead today. I blame the Trump administrations for at least 109k of those deaths!
Trump wanted to stop incoming flights from China back in February he was called a racist
 

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Here, read this: https://www.sciencemag.org/news/202...d-coronavirus-just-breathing-new-report-finds

You may be able to spread coronavirus just by breathing, new report finds

The National Academy of Sciences (NAS) has given a boost to an unsettling idea: that the novel coronavirus can spread through the air—not just through the large droplets emitted in a cough or sneeze. Though current studies aren’t conclusive, “the results of available studies are consistent with aerosolization of virus from normal breathing,” Harvey Fineberg, who heads a standing committee on Emerging Infectious Diseases and 21st Century Health Threats, wrote in a 1 April letter to Kelvin Droegemeier, head of the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy

Breathing is a biological right to life. these restrictions and lockdowns ain't doing shit to stop this bogeyman virus with 99.9 recovery rate
 
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You clearly don't understand much about masks or science.

Masks are meant to REDUCE the amount of droplets passing through them. This might be confusing to you but the 95 in N95 means they filter 95% of airborne particles. That means that even with a N95 there is the chance that viral particles will get through. Even non-medical masks stop some percentage of particles. Even if a mask only reduced particles by 30%, it reduces outgoing particles by 30% and incoming particles by 30% meaning only 9% of particles will get through.

And considering you admit that oral transmission is not the only vector and the fact that mandating masks in public doesn't mean masks are being worn regularly, it is stupid to claim masks are a problem.

You could also compare virus numbers in the US. It is easy to see that places with low mask wearing are doing far worse than places with high compliance.
Evidently some people here are trolling and or quite thick skulled.
 

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My point is aside from a few people with hayfever almost nobody is coughing or sneezing in the summertime.
So your point that it stops droplets is irrelevant.

It should be obvious to even the dumbest person that Covid is spreading through exhaled air, and not droplets.
That would make most of the masks that people are currently wearing completely useless, because the air can escape through the upper parts, the sides and the lower parts of the mask.
Wrong.

Droplets are released by people talking, singing, etc. There is no need to cough or sneeze. This is just the ABC's of covid 19.

Was there any talking, singing, etc during summertime? Of course there was.

Studies have shown that masks are effective in stopping virus droplets coming from nearby people who are talking & singing.
 

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Prove it

China fared much better than Western countries did?? I guess you missed what happened in Wuhan

Infections are going up in Ontario. Masks arent working
The burden of "proof" is on you since you made the following claim with absolutely nothing to back it up:

"Infections are going up in Ontario. Masks arent working"

To which i replied:

1) Logical fallacy. The conclusion does not necessarily follow from the premise.

2) The rise in infections could be due to many other variables, such as people returning to school, more acting irresponsibly, more staying in higher risk environments such as indoors as the weather gets colder, etc,. In fact the rise could be even worse without masks being used.

And probably would be, because the scientific evidence says masks work. That's why in almost every nation on earth they are either mandated or recommended as per health experts instructions

3) Then why is it that Asian nations that use masks fared much better than Western nations that didn't use masks. Based on that info & your simplistic way of reaching conclusions, you should conclude that masks are working. But that would contradict your conclusion that masks aren't working. Can both be true, masks are working and masks aren't working?

4) The Ontario chart re infections shows that the daily numbers continually go up and then go down. So do you conclude that masks work on the days that infections went down. https://www.google.com/search?q=ont...rome..69i57.6877j0j1&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8


China fared much better than Western countries did?? I guess you missed what happened in Wuhan
I didn't refer to one relatively little area called Wuhan, but to entire nations:

Asian nations that use masks fared much better than Western nations that didn't use masks. Based on that info & your simplistic way of reaching conclusions, you should conclude that masks are working. But that would contradict your conclusion that masks aren't working. Can both be true, masks are working and masks aren't working?

"In June, researchers at the University of Iowa collected data on when, exactly, states with mask-wearing mandates instituted their rules. Fifteen states and Washington, DC, had done that before May 8. Then the researchers looked at those states’ subsequent growth curves in Covid-19 infections. The results were striking. Even controlling for other social-distancing measures, and without looking at how many people actually wore masks at an individual level, the curve started to bend downward as soon as a week later. Three weeks later, the daily growth rate in states with mask mandates was down 2 percent. “It's not about the types of masks. We don’t even measure individual use of masks. We look at whether states have mandated people should use them in public and compare them before and after,” says George Wehby, a professor of health policy and management at the University of Iowa and lead author of the paper. “Many other states also had shelter-in-place laws in place, but [we still see] this effect.”


Based on that why aren't you concluding that masks work & they work very effectively.

Perhaps the question of mask efficacy isn't as simple as your simplistic argument above stating "masks aren't working", eh.
 

Phil C. McNasty

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Wrong.

Droplets are released by people talking, singing, etc. There is no need to cough or sneeze. This is just the ABC's of covid 19.

Was there any talking, singing, etc during summertime? Of course there was.

Studies have shown that masks are effective in stopping virus droplets coming from nearby people who are talking & singing.
So now its people who are talking and singing who are spreading the virus. LOL.... give it up, man 😂
 
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