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danmand said:

Now, how do we avoid the US becoming a theocracy?
It isn't even close to that, and likely never will be. You could make a far better argument that the US has lost it's democratic roots and is becoming an oligarchy.
 

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Certainly it's more theocratic than Canada is; but it's nowhere close to being an Iran. Still--there are segments of the US that are just so backwards, like Ohio adding creationism to the curriculum. The current administration has also actively interfered with scientific studies where the conclusions seemed to be at odds with policy. That's troubling. (In particular in the realm of the environment they've been doing that--practically requiring scientists to rewrite their conclusions to make it sound like there's a controversy in order to get continued funding grants.)
 

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Drunken Master said:
That's right, DQ. Remember, the VietCong had nothing to do with the loss in Vietnam. It was all of you pot-smoking unpatriotic hippies. Just like inability to adapt to the realities of asymetrical warfare will have nothing to do with intransigence in the military beauracracy or incompetence in the executive branch - it will be because of the negative vibes coming from you damn flower-snorting, granola-crunching, sandal-wearing - did I mention you were unpatriotic? - hippies.
Well said.
 

danmand

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Guerrilla forces defending their own territory will, given enough time, repell an invasion force. History has shown that.
 

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That's not true in every instance. Not remotely.
 

danmand

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Sorry, I should have included, "if they have the support of the people".
 

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I think those terms are so vague that the discussion isn't really useful. And I don't think, even in general terms, that it's that solid a proposition.
 

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gala said:
Certainly it's more theocratic than Canada is; but it's nowhere close to being an Iran.
I spend a year teaching at a liberal arts college in Kentucky. I had an international student from Jordon who said that he had "thought Jordon was religious until he came to Kentucky�. The U.S. may not be Iran yet, but I can’t think of another western country were religion plays such a big role. When you are not used to it, the U.S. south (and many do not even consider KY to be a southern state) is a real shock. I also spent a bit of time in Odessa, Texas and found it to be even worse.
 

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someone said:
... student from Jordon who said that he had "thought Jordon was religious until he came to Kentucky�. The U.S. may not be Iran yet, but I can’t think of another western country were religion plays such a big role. ...
Thank god for the Jewish girl ... now I am "saved" ...

Damn ... did anyone else get wood when she was taken over by "Jesus" and moaned about her "hot pussy"?

Yeah the US south sure loves their "Jesus".

http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0332375/

Hey all I know is what I see in the "movies", just like most "good" north Americans. :p
 

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The US constitution provides a clear seperation of church and state. This however does not forbid anyone from proclaiming his faith or used it as a campaign issue. This law also allows for anybody to vote for whomever he/she thinks.

IMHO in my humble opinion goverment should not provide any funding for any organization that promotes as a core value.
Having said that I have real trouble denying funding to religous groups that do valueble charity work.

It would be real ironic, that a country that was partially founded as an escape from religous prosecution, would turn theocratic.
I don't believe this would happen. There is a need however to address certain issues. Like "One nation under God".
 

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Drunken Master said:
Well, even then. No insurgent army had much success against the Nazis.
Yugoslavia, Greece are notable cases
 

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danmand said:
Yugoslavia, Greece are notable cases
Really? How much success did they have against the Germans? They caused more civilians to be killed in retaliation than they killed German soldiers.
Bad examples. The Germans didn't go anywhere.
 

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bbking said:
Well that's going to cost you several decades in pergatory.

bbk
Yeah I am going to hell in a handbasket. But at least all my friends and all the horny chicks (with "hot pussies") will be there. :p

On another note:

http://www.sorryeverybody.com/

Kinda sad ... But for every gun totin', "shoot 'em eyerackiee tararists up real good", winner there's got to be a loser!
 

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tompeepin said:
Yeah I am going to hell in a handbasket. But at least all my friends and all the horny chicks (with "hot pussies") will be there. :p

On another note:

http://www.sorryeverybody.com/

Kinda sad ... But for every gun totin', "shoot 'em eyerackiee tararists up real good", winner there's got to be a loser!


WOW that link is filled with a bunch of sorry people

oh yea they are also a bunch of looser backers too.
 

tompeepin

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bbking said:
uhhh Tom - there is no sex in purgatory - a Catholic thing


bbk
SHIT @#(%)* !!! NOW I am really FUCKED! ... or NOT! :mad:
 

danmand

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Ranger68 said:
Really? How much success did they have against the Germans? They caused more civilians to be killed in retaliation than they killed German soldiers.
Bad examples. The Germans didn't go anywhere.
Really, last I heard, they left (at least for a while)!
 
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