2020-21 Canadiens Thread

[maurice93]

Congratulations to Marc Bergevin on his final masterpiece creation.

An older team, worst in the league, and literally still nearly capped out for the two tears after this one.

One of the worries with a lame duck Gm is what moves he does in his last year when it’s time to rebuild. Most teams would typically want them out before the deadline so a new guy can bring in pieces he likes.

But thankfully for Montreal they have no UFAs of value because dipshit still has most of this team signed until the end of 2023/2024 or longer. in fact they only have one UFA of any trade value this year in Chiarot.

I guess we will see what the next GM does with his roster of 8 decent wingers,1 decent centre, and maybe 2 decent defenceman .

 

[Indiana]

 

[NotADcotor]

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Well there goes no fap November.

 

[shack]

Well, Maurice. You fished your wish.

Bergevin is fired.
Montreal Canadiens fire Marc Bergevin Trevor Timmins hire Jeff Gorton - TSN.ca

 

[maurice93]

Well, Maurice. You fished your wish.

Bergevin is fired.
Montreal Canadiens fire Marc Bergevin Trevor Timmins hire Jeff Gorton - TSN.ca

About time

 

[bigdickdean]

Well, Maurice. You fished your wish.

Bergevin is fired.
Montreal Canadiens fire Marc Bergevin Trevor Timmins

Well, Maurice. You fished your wish.

Bergevin is fired.
Montreal Canadiens fire Marc Bergevin Trevor Timmins hire Jeff Gorton - TSN.ca

Geez, he took them to the Stanley Cup Final last year. If a Toronto GM did that, they would erect a statue of him.

 

[superstar_88]

He also got them into the playoffs as a 24th seeded team. He is brilliant.

 

[shack]

Sorry, but for a long time they were mediocre to horrible aside from a 4-6 week streak in which Carey Price carried them on his back.

 

[glamphotographer]

Wonder what Dart's thinks of the Montreal system?

 

[shack]

Wonder what Dart's thinks of the Montreal system?

He has never told us what the system actually is. All that he says is that you need a good goalie. Wow. What insight.

Darts has zero idea of what a Montreal system is, even if there is one.

Darts, for your own credibility, please tell us what the Montreal system is.

 

[Darts]

Wonder what Dart's thinks of the Montreal system?

Ok, once again and for the last time. Start with the goalie, then defense, then the forwards and special teams. Of course the system works best when a team has the players like in 1976-77 (best NHL team ever). Actually, that was the system that brought the Habs to the Stanley Cup finals in 2021.

The Leafs did it backwards. They started with the forwards, then defense and then the goalie. It hasn't worked for them so far. Maybe 2021-22 will be an exception. Time will tell.

Don't ask me again. Asking the same question over and over gets really annoying and a waste of bandwidth.

 

[shack]

Ok, once again and for the last time. Start with the goalie, then defense, then the forwards and special teams. Of course the system works best when a team has the players like in 1976-77 (best NHL team ever). Actually, that was the system that brought the Habs to the Stanley Cup finals in 2021.

The Leafs did it backwards. They started with the forwards, then defense and then the goalie. It hasn't worked for them so far. Maybe 2021-22 will be an exception. Time will tell.

Don't ask me again. Asking the same question over and over gets really annoying and a waste of bandwidth.

We keep asking because your answer is always insufficient. That is not a system of playing the game. You've mentioned many times a how a certain player would fit the Montreal system. It means that they know how to fit into the Montreal system of playing. You make it sound like Montreal is the only team that realizes that goaltending and defense are important. LOL

Different players of different quality levels at different positions are available at different times. Your system does not make sense. What do you do if you can't find a top tier goalie for 10 years? It's not like one is always available. Do you look for skaters and abandon the system? And what if an elite forward becomes available and you still need a goalie? Do you abandon the system?

How does the Montreal system work?

BTW, whether you want to admit it or not, these are all valid questions.

 

[Darts]

You make it sound like Montreal is the only team that realizes that goaltending and defense are important.
Give it whatever moniker you like. You can call it the Lightning system for all I care.

What do you do if you can't find a top tier goalie for 10 years? It's not like one is always available. Do you look for skaters and abandon the system? And what if an elite forward becomes available and you still need a goalie? Do you abandon the system?
Then you fall back on the "Leaf System".

 

[NotADcotor]

The Montreal system.

You put da puck in the udder guy's net and you stop dem from putting da puck in your net and you win more game.

I they ever start actually doing that...

 

[shack]

You make it sound like Montreal is the only team that realizes that goaltending and defense are important.
Give it whatever moniker you like. You can call it the Lightning system for all I care.

Evasive answer. Nobody is questioning the name.

The question that you seem incapable of answering, mainly because I believe that you made it up, is what is the Montreal system of play? How did Montreal play the game in such a way that gave them so much success for so many years until as "recently" as 1993.

And why haven't they properly implemented it for so long? What part(s) of the plan are they not following?

Actually, there is no Montreal plan. The plan is get somebody shrewd like Frank Selke or Sam Pollock or Scotty Bowman to run the team.

 

[Fun For All]

Evasive answer. Nobody is questioning the name.

The question that you seem incapable of answering, mainly because I believe that you made it up, is what is the Montreal system of play? How did Montreal play the game in such a way that gave them so much success for so many years until as "recently" as 1993.

And why haven't they properly implemented it for so long? What part(s) of the plan are they not following?

Actually, there is no Montreal plan. The plan is get somebody shrewd like Frank Selke or Sam Pollock or Scotty Bowman to run the team.

The Montreal system is too have better players than the opposition...and pay off referees.

 

[mellowjello]

Ok, once again and for the last time. Start with the goalie, then defense, then the forwards and special teams. Of course the system works best when a team has the players like in 1976-77 (best NHL team ever). Actually, that was the system that brought the Habs to the Stanley Cup finals in 2021.

The Leafs did it backwards. They started with the forwards, then defense and then the goalie. It hasn't worked for them so far. Maybe 2021-22 will be an exception. Time will tell.

Don't ask me again. Asking the same question over and over gets really annoying and a waste of bandwidth.

Nonetheless, the Leafs are winning and they're playing well in all three areas. Why are you so stuck on ideology?

 

[Darts]

The Montreal system is too have better players than the opposition.
Until recent years, Montreal was always able to find the players who excel in goal, defense and offense (let's just call it the Montreal System until and if we find a better moniker). They definitely had/have the best goalies of their generation in Roy (until management messed up and got rid of him) and Price. The problems has been consistently finding the stars on defense and at forward. Part of that system is also to find forwards who excel at defense as well. (Yeah, yeah, I know Carbonneau and Gainey.)

I took a look back at the 1986 team. Roy in goal, Robinson and Chelios (as well as Green and Ludwig) on defense, Gainy and Carbonneau among the forwards.

The 1993 team was a good but not great team but they did have Roy in goal as well as Carbonneau..

The 2021 Stanley Cup finalist team was good but not great. They did have Price in goal and their top 4 defensemen were as good as any 4 in the league. The PK was great and the offense scored enough to win 13 games.

The 2021-22 team. So far, no Price and Weber (retired?). Edmundson has been injured all season. (Half the top 4 defensemen from last season haven't played a game.) Need more offense. Caufield has been a disappointment so far. Plus, some members from 2021 have been traded or signed by other teams.

..and pay off referees.
If only that was possible. LOL!

 

[Darts]

It's never easy being GM or coach of the Canadiens. Just ask Marc Bergevin.
Montreal Canadiens: GM Marc Bergevin's Perspective on 2021-22 Season (thehockeywriters.com)

 

[Darts]

Nonetheless, the Leafs are winning and they're playing well in all three areas. Why are you so stuck on ideology?

Ok, whatever works works but let's not start the parade just yet.