15 yr old girl rescued from prostitution ring.

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papasmerf

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tboy said:
As others have stated, everyone calm the fuck down. I mean seriously. Talk about jumping off a cliff.

To call some of the great agency owners pimps is like calling a Bentley just another "car". There are degrees to everything and with the agencies I have dealt with, and personally gotten to know the ladies, there is no PIMPING going on. For the most part ladies looking to get into the biz look for someone to handle all the admin shit that goes along with it and they find someone to do it for them and pay for that service. For that matter, any movie star who uses an agent according to some, that agent is a pimp also. Sorry, I don't buy into the hysteria.
I don't think you can argue that the people holding these young girls, raping and forcing them into prostitution are not what is best defined as pimps.
 

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Hey Fred... what if she was your own daughter?

You scum bag piece of shit paki. Go back where you came from you fucken camel jockey.

Delete my account.
 

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Don said:
Polaris - How the hell can you blame TERB?
Exactly... with the amount of bullshit on this board sometimes... I think it was a fair amount of time for the Moderators to confirm the facts.

Why can they ban Ray on the spot and not 4play? Because Terb can track everything Ray posts on this board. If a Terbite posted that he was with an underage girl... I can guarantee he would have be banned in a second and Fred/Sheik would have involved the police. However in hindsight and due to the seriousness of the situation... I do think they should have temporarily suspended everything related to 4play much earlier.

I also wonder whether some of you think Moderators sit in front of their computer 24/7 babysitting the shit that happens on this board sometimes. For all we know they have been cooperating with the police all along and I hope they are.

This is terrible what happened to this young girl. What is more terrible is this probably happens everyday on Toronto... but we never hear about it... including from the guys that are getting on their soap boxes right now and tearing Terb to shit.
 

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I agree with you Calloway but I think what should have been done is a clear and concise announcement about what TERB/Fred is doing.

Not just a "4play is banned" announcement but more of a "we're in the process of...." statement. I think it would make many members feel more at ease.
 

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David Beckham 23 said:
I agree with you Calloway but I think what should have been done is a clear and concise announcement about what TERB/Fred is doing.

Not just a "4play is banned" announcement but more of a "we're in the process of...." statement. I think it would make many members feel more at ease.
I agree 100%.

I honestly believe that Fred and Sheik also agree mistakes were made.

Hopefully changes are being made and procedures are being put in place to prevent this from happening in the future.
 

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People really over react to a word.

dictionary.com said:
pimp
  /pɪmp/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [pimp] Show IPA
–noun
1. a person, esp. a man, who solicits customers for a prostitute or a brothel, usually in return for a share of the earnings; pander; procurer.
The word seem to accurately describe a range of people in the profession. Just like anything else some people tainted by association with others in the same profession not unlike lawyers or politicians.
 

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If anyone here can deny that kidnapping, raping and forcing a 15 year old into prostitution is wrong scares me.


The actions of the people who did this define PIMP at its lowest level.
 

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David Beckham 23 said:
I agree with you Calloway but I think what should have been done is a clear and concise announcement about what TERB/Fred is doing.

Not just a "4play is banned" announcement but more of a "we're in the process of...." statement. I think it would make many members feel more at ease.
Well there was a lot more to the MichaelZzzz thing. He wanted to be delete. He did everything he could think of to speed the process telling Esco err LOLRUS to kill himself, make comments about my personal life, tell everyone to F*** off. It was ugly and not the actions of a rational person.
 

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papasmerf said:
If anyone here can deny that kidnapping, raping and forcing a 15 year old into prostitution is wrong scares me.


The actions of the people who did this define PIMP at its lowest level.
I think some people are getting bogged down with semantic of a word or two. I think we all agree that what this agency did what disgusting and the should be dealt with.
 

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It was ugly and not the actions of a rational person.
As I mentioned last night... the anger he showed came from fear. One has to therefore assume that he has used the services of 4play. Maybe not the girl in question... but the operation. I think it's safe to say the police will be going through the phone records and appointment book. It's not that difficult to put this all together.
 

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David Beckham 23 said:
I think some people are getting bogged down with semantic of a word or two. I think we all agree that what this agency did what disgusting and the should be dealt with.
I fail to see why you continue to try and sanitize this and use the word AGENCY when referring to someone who might be a kidnapper, rapist and white slaver.
 

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calloway said:
As I mentioned last night... the anger he showed came from fear. One has to therefore assume that he has used the services of 4play. Maybe not the girl in question... but the operation. I think it's safe to say the police will be going through the phone records and appointment book. It's not that difficult to put this all together.
you do of course have evidence to support your accusations?
 

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papasmerf said:
I fail to see why you continue to try and sanitize this and use the word AGENCY when referring to someone who might be a kidnapper, rapist and white slaver.

I'm not going to get into a war of words with you. If calling them a pimp make you feel at ease the so be it. 4play is pimping. But to tell you the truth, I think calling them a pimp isn't harsh enough. To me it might as well be child molesting.
 

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David Beckham 23 said:
I'm not going to get into a war of words with you. If calling them a pimp make you feel at ease the so be it. 4play is pimping. But to tell you the truth, I think calling them a pimp isn't harsh enough. To me it might as well be child molesting.
Do you know what a white slaver is?


I am not caught up in semantics but rather would like to call a spade a spade.

I am not politically correct and tend to defend the weak with extreme prejudice.



You have people here spinning this and that says alot
 

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papasmerf said:
Do you know what a white slaver is?


I am not caught up in semantics but rather would like to call a spade a spade.

I am not politically correct and tend to defend the weak with extreme prejudice.



You have people here spinning this and that says alot

Yes I know what a "white slaver" is and it has little to do with age.

And like I said, calling someone a pimp in this case isn't harsh enough.
 

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David Beckham 23 said:
Yes I know what a "white slaver" is and it has little to do with age.

And like I said, calling someone a pimp in this case isn't harsh enough.

forcing anyone into PROSTITUTION is WHITE SLAVERY

As for calling these folks pimps I think it is a start. Notice I avoided calling them ADVERTISERS
 

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calloway said:
No Papa... just the use of common sense.

Just like you try to do every now and then.
No you made an accusation to the public and I would like you to produce evidence of what you are saying. Stop the spinning and produce solid evidence.

Your trying to put it on me is just crap. Mods does not accusing publicly a member or member of the public of a crime without proof constitute a offense that can be investigated by both LE and Government? Does Calloway have the right to accuse a former member of having sex with an underage girl without presenting proof?
 
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"You have to check in with the concierge..."
"I really didn't mind signing in..."
"The concierge gave a little smile then called up..."

and "Kelsey's" ad byline "Some are uncomfortable with concierge...call ahead and girl will meet and accompany you into building..."


OMI GAWD

You know the police have the concierge video survellience tapes, and the names on the sign in sheets, and you just know somebody signed his real name.

EU
 

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Is there a picture of this guy?? If anyone knows any more info Id be interested.
 
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