15 yr old girl rescued from prostitution ring.

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Back Burner said:
Ever use 4play?
No, I never have. Are you saying that they might be using underage girls?

Regardless, I prefer older SP's anyway, for the most part. I'm not into that young school girl look (although an older woman in a school girl outfit...).

It's crappy, and I know there are guys who get off on it, and some of them are on here.
 

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slowandeasy said:
Can we really expect them to scrutinize IDs? Should they?
Fucking right they should.

IMO.
 

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joey21 said:
Terrible.

There was another situation on here also, horny69s thread was deleted and he doesnt post anymore.
He still posts.
 

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Well the article in the Star states this=

"The arrest led police to search two other condominiums on Saturday: One at 1001 Bay St., south of Bloor St. W. and at 1200 York Mills Rd., east of the Don Valley Parkway"


and this=

"Police would like to speak to anyone who may have come in contact with the suspect who also goes by the name "Ray" or "Kelsey."


NOW check on craigslist for the name Kelsey =
http://toronto.en.craigslist.ca/tor/ers/1169252489.html
http://toronto.en.craigslist.ca/tor/ers/1162338455.html

In the ad it states this =

Schedule:
Schedule: Today 1PM-10PM
Please Call booking agent "Kelsey" to Pre-Book...
416-400-4049
Location: Bay/Wellesley Upscale Incall

also states the agencies website=
www.4playladies.com


Wow www.4playladies.com website whois=
Registrant:
Ray Isaacs
1001 Bay St Apt. 604
Toronto, ON M5S3A6
Canada

Registered through: GoDaddy.com, Inc. (http://www.godaddy.com)
Domain Name: 4PLAYLADIES.COM
Created on: 27-Sep-04
Expires on: 27-Sep-09
Last Updated on: 15-Nov-08



What do you guys think...?
 

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joey21 said:
Schedule:
Schedule: Today 1PM-10PM
Please Call booking agent "Kelsey" to Pre-Book...
416-400-4049
Location: Bay/Wellesley Upscale Incall

also states the agencies website=
www.4playladies.com


Wow www.4playladies.com website whois=
Registrant:
Ray Isaacs
1001 Bay St Apt. 604
Toronto, ON M5S3A6
Canada

Registered through: GoDaddy.com, Inc. (http://www.godaddy.com)
Domain Name: 4PLAYLADIES.COM
Created on: 27-Sep-04
Expires on: 27-Sep-09
Last Updated on: 15-Nov-08



What do you guys think...?
That is too coincidental, and also creepy at that. Good detective work IMO.
 

joey21

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Thanks its all public info.

At least they could have put a privacy option on their website info.

20 second craiglist search basically spilled the beans.
 

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I can't see this thread being here very long.
 

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papasmerf said:
AGENCIES?????????

Kidnapping and forcing into prostitution is pimpshit not agency.


mr.Papasmerf.. Reality sets in and you realize 90% of these agencies are just undercover pimps.
 

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joey21 said:
mr.Papasmerf.. Reality sets in and you realize 90% of these agencies are just undercover pimps.

YA THINK???????
 

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Sad but true. Its bad for the whole industry. Terrible.
 

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joey21 said:
Sad but true. Its bad for the whole industry. Terrible.
What makes it worse is people seem to tolerate it.
 

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joey21 said:
he went to go see this girl and even said he met the pimp and totally supported him saying he was a great guy, just forgot to tell us about the burns he noticed on her. what a skum!

Sounds like bullshit to me. I remember that thread and there was no reason to believe there was anything fishy about the operation.
 

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hunter001 said:
Fucking right they should.

IMO.
When you see an SP, MP, or Dancer do you check her ID to ensure she is not underage?

If you don't then you are simply passing the buck. It is hilarious how people are quick to pass the blame so they can make themselves feel better. The point being that as long as we participate in this industry, we all share some blame. If you don't like that truth, then it's time for another hobby.
 

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joey21 said:
Reality sets in and you realize 90% of these agencies are just undercover pimps.
Can anyone explain the difference between an agency and a pimp?
 

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slowandeasy said:
When you see an SP, MP, or Dancer do you check her ID to ensure she is not underage?

If you don't then you are simply passing the buck. It is hilarious how people are quick to pass the blame so they can make themselves feel better. The point being that as long as we participate in this industry, we all share some blame. If you don't like that truth, then it's time for another hobby.
It is pathetic those that would make excuses for "Agencies" that would do due diligence on "their" workers. In the light of day one can determine age of the SP they are "hiring". It sound like you like trolling for ... Whatever dude.



I don't go to S.C.s anymore. I am not that interested in ladies even in their early 20's any more. I only see more mature SPs that are well reviewed and been around sometime. I don't go after the ones guys are drooling over that just turned "19".
 

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MichaelZzzz said:
Given this information I expect the MODS to do the following AT A MINIMUM.

1) Independently confirm if what Joey posted is correct.
2) If it is not then say so.
3) If it is true BAN 4PLAY IMMEDIATELY AND PERMANENTLY.

If you do not take immediate and aggressive steps then you are part of the child prostitution problem. There is no middle ground or grey area.

Do not hand me this bull shit about not policing the escort business. This is child prostitution and looking the other way simply condones this disgusting behaviour. You can't look away, you must act.

Sheik, Fred , et al. if you are not willing to do this then please completely delete my account.

If you are just going to delete this thread and not deal with incredibly serious issue in a straight forward and public way, then again DELETE MY ACCOUNT.

I agree with Michael here 110%. This is something that can't be ignored. The allegation is serious enough that if an advertiser can be accused of such a grievous crime and suffer no consequences for not doing their due diligence ( min. responsibility) or flat out exploitation of a minor ( max. responsibility) then how can ANYONE trust what is being advertised here. Lets face it this board can make or break an SP or Agencies and simply saying that you don't wish to police the industry won't work here, for good or bad this board kind works at policing client service. There is a responsibility here not to deal knowingly with this kind of practice, actually the law doesn't make the distinction. The only point I will make to the board as a whole, now we know, we may not have known yesterday but now we need to deal with it.

This is an industry that is somewhat comfortable on the other side of society norms and laws, so it becomes very important that not only TERB but other Agencies comment regarding 4 Play.

We as clients rely on Agencies to do their due diligence regarding age and letting this pass will cause problems in accepting advertising as accurate. We as clients also have a responsibility that if we think the SP is underage then we walk away.

Yes I know, presumption of innocence and all, however the accusation is sufficiently bad enough that 4Play be banned until they clear their name.
 
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