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Grocery prices continue to increase

Have grocery prices affected your lifestyle?

  • Yes, I have had to cut back or make changes

    Votes: 31 59.6%
  • No, prices have gone up, but it hasn’t affected me at all

    Votes: 20 38.5%
  • No, grocery prices are about the same as always

    Votes: 1 1.9%

  • Total voters
    52

Topman222

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Jun 9, 2021
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The lack of knowledge of how an economy works and it's interplay with politics is genuinely concerning.

Centuries ago, Socrates observed that voting requires wisdom rather than being a mere birthright, and he feared that democracy could enable the unqualified to govern citizens who are easily swayed by demagogues rather than reason. Our government is a reflection of us, and many remain susceptible to half-truths, lies, and propaganda.

In reality, a handful of corporations dominate major industries such as agriculture, banking, and telecommunications. These monopolies breed corruption, which in turn drives harmful policies, the unethical treatment of workers, profound inequality, and inflation. In short, the primary owners of these institutions have multiplied their wealth many times over while the majority of society grows poorer. To mask this reality, they spread misinformation to sow division among the populace (I see many of these talking-points peddled in this forum). This tactic is as old as time, yet it remains remarkably effective. They want us to blame the government, the poor, immigrants, or anyone else; everyone except the ultra-rich and powerful.

Some way to fix inflation and make for a healthier Economy:
- break up these monopolies and force competition
- Put maximum pressure on the ultra-rich so they can't hide their wealth in off-shore accounts
- And make them pay their fair share of taxes
- Never subsidize large corporations with public money
 

MatureMan

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The lack of knowledge of how an economy works and it's interplay with politics is genuinely concerning.

Centuries ago, Socrates observed that voting requires wisdom rather than being a mere birthright, and he feared that democracy could enable the unqualified to govern citizens who are easily swayed by demagogues rather than reason. Our government is a reflection of us, and many remain susceptible to half-truths, lies, and propaganda.

In reality, a handful of corporations dominate major industries such as agriculture, banking, and telecommunications. These monopolies breed corruption, which in turn drives harmful policies, the unethical treatment of workers, profound inequality, and inflation. In short, the primary owners of these institutions have multiplied their wealth many times over while the majority of society grows poorer. To mask this reality, they spread misinformation to sow division among the populace (I see many of these talking-points peddled in this forum). This tactic is as old as time, yet it remains remarkably effective. They want us to blame the government, the poor, immigrants, or anyone else; everyone except the ultra-rich and powerful.

Some way to fix inflation and make for a healthier Economy:
- break up these monopolies and force competition
- Put maximum pressure on the ultra-rich so they can't hide their wealth in off-shore accounts
- And make them pay their fair share of taxes
- Never subsidize large corporations with public money
I agree with you on many points however you missed the most crucial part , the government is oversized and over paid. Cut gov agencies and half and eliminate useless agencies. Then renegotiate pensions. I know a recruiter for the gov sector and she says may agencies have completely useless roles to fill. And they fill rhem with useless people. All because they need to keep their budgets growing.
Need to address the tax burden on Canadians. Which of course will never happen and therefore the country is toast!
 
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Topman222

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I don’t disagree that the public sector could operate more efficiently. However, framing government size and pay as the primary driver of Canada’s economic challenges overlooks the broader picture.

To put it in perspective: Canada’s GDP is projected to approach $3 trillion in 2024–25, while total compensation federal government sits at roughly $71 billion. That’s approximately 2.4% of GDP, which aligns closely with other G7 nations. Even if we were to cut public sector wages in half, the savings would barely move the needle on our overall fiscal and economic challenges.

The more pressing issue lies elsewhere. Corporate profits have surged dramatically, consistently outpacing inflation and wage growth. Unlike public sector compensation, which faces political scrutiny and transparency requirements, corporate pricing power and profit margins have expanded largely unchecked.

This isn’t accidental. A highly concentrated market structure dominates key Canadian industries, limiting competition and enabling sustained price increases. Meanwhile, well-resourced lobbying efforts shape policy in ways that protect corporate margins and wealth concentration, while public discourse is often redirected toward blaming public servants, the middle class, or marginalized groups. The result is an economic system that prioritizes shareholder returns over household affordability and long-term competitiveness.

Government efficiency is worth pursuing, but it’s a secondary concern. If we’re serious about addressing Canada’s cost-of-living crisis and tax burden, we need to examine market concentration, anti-competitive practices, and the policies that enable them. Until we tackle the root causes of corporate pricing power and wealth concentration, shrinking agencies or cutting public sector pay will only treat the symptoms, not the disease.
 

K Douglas

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Jan 5, 2005
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Smart shopping can lessen the pain?

Good luck with that, the grocery market has become a dualopoly just like the telecommunications market. Loblaws and Empire owns 80% of the grocery chains. Were I live the closest supermarkets are Loblaws (Fortinos) and Empire (Longos). It's only a mater of time before the other chains like Metro and Pattison get swallowed up. I don't idle my car at a Tim's drive through but I do buy the tins, the latest price at Longo's is $34.99.

Remember when Galen Weston tried to promote himself as a Canadian Jimmy Stewart?

I shop at Longo's quite a bit. They are super expensive. I don't even buy any of their prepared foods any more the prices are absolutely bonkers.
I did get a pretty good deal on a tri-tip steak this past week. $15.97 for a about 9-10 oz. Not at the level of a striploin or ribeye but it was decent enough.
 
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K Douglas

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The lack of knowledge of how an economy works and it's interplay with politics is genuinely concerning.

Centuries ago, Socrates observed that voting requires wisdom rather than being a mere birthright, and he feared that democracy could enable the unqualified to govern citizens who are easily swayed by demagogues rather than reason. Our government is a reflection of us, and many remain susceptible to half-truths, lies, and propaganda.

In reality, a handful of corporations dominate major industries such as agriculture, banking, and telecommunications. These monopolies breed corruption, which in turn drives harmful policies, the unethical treatment of workers, profound inequality, and inflation. In short, the primary owners of these institutions have multiplied their wealth many times over while the majority of society grows poorer. To mask this reality, they spread misinformation to sow division among the populace (I see many of these talking-points peddled in this forum). This tactic is as old as time, yet it remains remarkably effective. They want us to blame the government, the poor, immigrants, or anyone else; everyone except the ultra-rich and powerful.

Some way to fix inflation and make for a healthier Economy:
- break up these monopolies and force competition
- Put maximum pressure on the ultra-rich so they can't hide their wealth in off-shore accounts
- And make them pay their fair share of taxes
- Never subsidize large corporations with public money
You wanna break up oligopolies? The best way to do that is to reduce burdensome regulations. Small and mid sized companies cannot operate profitably in a market under those conditions.
 
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stinkynuts

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What's so shocking is that this normalized. It's like the frog that is boiled alive, gradually by increasing the temperature a little at a time.

Corporate greed and unchecked power and corruption has allowed companies to raise prices. High prices due to COVID became the excuse they needed.

No one can live without food. We are forced to pay insane prices because the alternative is not to eat.

It's now $10 for a half pound of ground beef. It was literally $5 just two years ago. The price doubled, and people are still buying.

Yesterday, I went to buy the ingredients for lasagna. This is what I paid:


Lasagna pasta: $3
Sauce: $3
Mozarella: $5
Ricotta: $8
Parmesan cheese:$5
Ground beef: $10
Italian Sausage ($8, for the pack, $4 worth is what I used):
Fresh parsley: $3

Total: $41 (I used all of the ingredients fully, except the sausage)

This doesn't include the egg, tomato paste, garlic and onion, which I estimate adds another $2 at least.

So it costts so much to cook at home now, might as well eat fast food. Oh, wait. Prices there have increased as well.


More insanity at the supermarket:


 
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What's so shocking is that this normalized. It's like the frog that is boiled alive, gradually by increasing the temperature a little at a time.

Corporate greed and unchecked power and corruption has allowed companies to raise prices. High prices due to COVID became the excuse they needed.

No one can live without food. We are forced to pay insane prices because the alternative is not to eat.
Been saying this for a while now. When grocery retailer resort to drug dealer tactics you know you are in for a rough ride.:(
 
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DesRicardo

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Don't worry Liberals are here to save the day again.


How much will you get?
Qualifying Canadians will receive a payment based on their familial status.

Single Canadians and single-parent families will get a maximum payout of:

  • $267 with no children
  • $441 with one child
  • $533 with two children
  • $625 with three children
  • $717 with four children
Married or common-law individuals will get a maximum payment of:

  • $349 with no children
  • $441 with one child
  • $533 with two children
  • $625 with three children
  • $717 with four children
:ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:
 
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Don't worry Liberals are here to save the day again.


How much will you get?
Qualifying Canadians will receive a payment based on their familial status.

Single Canadians and single-parent families will get a maximum payout of:

  • $267 with no children
  • $441 with one child
  • $533 with two children
  • $625 with three children
  • $717 with four children
Married or common-law individuals will get a maximum payment of:

  • $349 with no children
  • $441 with one child
  • $533 with two children
  • $625 with three children
  • $717 with four children
:ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:
Aaaaannnddd it's our own money they're giving back to us, so thanks for that.🤦‍♂️:ROFLMAO:
 

fall

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Dec 9, 2010
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Elbows up!
Anyone who voted for the Liberals voted for this! People who voted kept the Liberals in power have no one to blame but themselves! However, since no one wants to take responsibility for their "asinine" decisions, they will blame President Trump!
Elbows up!
Fools!
You forgot Harper and PP for the list of people to blame.
 

fall

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Dec 9, 2010
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He is. But again I ask, how has PP impacted our economy?:unsure:
Arhh, orhhh, he definitely did and I am sure it is his fault. Anyone who does not see it is a MAGA racist, antisemite, and Zionist. Everyone knows it. Or, I know. Alberta!!! People in Alberta vote for Conservatives. PP is the leader of the Conservative party, he wants to become the Prime Minister and make Canada the 51st state, starting with Alberta. This is the reason for all our economics problem!!! You see, we must protect ourselves, buy Canadian, but those Loblaws people trick us, and this is why we have all these problems. And they (people at Loblaws) are filthy rich capitalists who care only about the money, exploit all Canadians, hide their money offshore, support MAGA, they are also racists, antisemites, and Zionists, and they vote for Conservatives. PP is a Conservative party leader; thus, he is responsible for all our economic problems. And if you still do not believe me, I can repost so many Twitter posts that you will have no options but to accept the truth.
 
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LMFAO!!!!! You sir, are a rider of the short bus. PP has yet to be in the drivers seat so he has literally made zero decisions that impact the Canadian economy. Beyond that half of the policies SkidMarx has implemented have been from the platform PP ran on. You need to get back on that short bus and head back to school. 🤦‍♂️ :ROFLMAO:
 
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