Give me a poll of Iranians in Iran.
Not expats.
If the US goes to war and manages to depose the government do you think Iranians would back the prince, backed by Israel and the states?
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Not expats.
If the US goes to war and manages to depose the government do you think Iranians would back the prince, backed by Israel and the states?
The incoming Shah of Iran may not be as peaceful as you.
Iran’s exiled Crown Prince urges US military action with regime on brink of collapse, says negotiations futile
Iran’s exiled Crown Prince called on President Trump to promptly strike Tehran Saturday — warning negotiations with the regime are futile, and more people are being killed with each pas…
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Support for protests in Iran significant: “81 per cent of Iranians do not want an Islamic republic”
Pooyan Tamimi Arab’s research foundation GAMAAN shows that more than 80 per cent of Iranians do not want an Islamic republic and support protests in the country.
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He urges action against the existing violent regime.The incoming Shah of Iran may not be as peaceful as you.
Iran’s exiled Crown Prince urges US military action with regime on brink of collapse, says negotiations futile
Iran’s exiled Crown Prince called on President Trump to promptly strike Tehran Saturday — warning negotiations with the regime are futile, and more people are being killed with each pas…
Unlike the regime that subjects its own citizens to violence.
But of course I don't support a US invasion.
That's not what I said.
I said 80% of Iranians want regime change. And they do.
The US as usual have vested interest in Iran to not become much of a threat. a puppet leader seems to be in the horizon...is that bad or good? well that's for Iranians to know if they want the regime to keep going or go for someone else...
So no, it's not really a US-instigated cause...more of several factors that led people to start resisting the regime... US just seeing an opportunity to make Iran less of a threat.
Depends what you'd consider a puppet government.
If the next leader recognizes Israel, establishes a secular democratic state, ends support for Hamas and Hezbollah, is more aligned with the west for trade etc, is that a puppet government?
Are they by default supposed to be opposed to the US and Israel?
I don't think so as I think a leader's job is to focus internally on their own countries problems first and make their citizen's lives better.
That may incidentally also be good for the Palestinians whose cause is greatly weakened by the presence of these terrorist groups and has led to Israel justifying its ongoing genocide as anti-terror actions.
But some who support Palestine see it as a huge blow to their fight against Israel, and are therefore prepared to keep Iran in the dark ages.
Iranians on the other hand, over 80% of them, see through this and want nothing to do with this hellish arrangement.
Just give them what they want. Regime change and a sane government.
If they align, that's not really a puppet per se...but if they get controlled then they will be. But if you ask me...it's really time for the regime to go n o matter what...
When the U.S. finally moves on to invade I guess you will say the war is instigated
by Iran.
Would you say the 2003 U.S. invasion of Iraq was not instigated by Bush?
But according to Franklatuu its the Jews LOL
Iranians chant slogans against supreme leader during memorials for killed protesters
Videos show crowds gathering at memorials for some of those killed again shouting slogans against Iran's theocratic government in place since the 1979 Islamic revolution
Iranians shouted slogans against the leader of the Islamic republic on Tuesday as they gathered to commemorate protesters killed in a crackdown on nationwide demonstrations that rights groups said left thousands dead, according to videos verified by AFP.
The country’s clerical authorities also staged a commemoration in the capital Tehran to mark the 40th day since the deaths at the peak of the protests on January 8 and 9, in line with Shiite mourning tradition.
Officials acknowledge more than 3,000 people died during the unrest, but attribute the violence to “terrorist acts,” while rights groups say many more thousands of people were killed, shot dead by security forces in a violent crackdown.
The protests, sparked by anger over the rising cost of living before exploding in size and anti-government fervour, subsided after the crackdown, but in recent days Iranians have chanted slogans from the relative safety of homes and rooftops at night.
On Tuesday, videos verified by AFP showed crowds gathering at memorials for some of those killed again shouting slogans against the theocratic government in place since the 1979 Islamic revolution.
In videos geolocated by AFP shared on social media, a crowd in Abadan in western Iran holds up flowers and commemorative photos of a young man as they shout “death to Khamenei,” referring to Iran’s supreme leader, and “long live the shah,” in support of the ousted monarchy.
Another video from the same city shows people running in panic from the sounds of shots, though it wasn’t immediately clear if they were from live fire.
In the northeastern city of Mashhad a crowd in the street chanted, “One person killed, thousands have his back”, another verified video showed.
Gatherings also took place in other parts of the country, according to videos shared by rights groups.
At the government-organized memorial in Tehran crowds carried Iranian flags and portraits of those killed as nationalist songs played and chants of “Death to America” and “Death to Israel” echoed through the Imam Khomeini Grand Mosalla mosque.
Iranian President Masoud Pezeshkian attended a similar event at the Imam Reza shrine in Mashhad.
Authorities have accused sworn enemies the United States and Israel of fuelling “foreign-instigated riots”, saying they hijacked peaceful protests with killings and vandalism.
Senior officials, including First Vice President Mohammad Reza Aref and Revolutionary Guards commander Esmail Qaani, attended the ceremony.
“Those who supported rioters and terrorists are criminals and will face the consequences,” Qaani said, according to Tasnim news agency.
International organizations have said evidence shows Iranian security forces targeted protesters with live fire under the cover of an internet blackout.
The U.S.-based Human Rights Activists News Agency (HRANA) has recorded more than 7,000 killings in the crackdown, the vast majority protesters, though rights groups warn the toll is likely far higher.
More than 53,500 people have been arrested in the ongoing crackdown, HRANA added, with rights groups warning protesters could face execution.
Tuesday’s gatherings coincided with a second round of nuclear negotiations between Iran and the United States in Geneva, amid heightened tensions after Washington deployed an aircraft carrier group to the Middle East following Iran’s crackdown on the protests.
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Iranians chant slogans against supreme leader during memorials for killed protesters
Videos show crowds gathering at memorials for some of those killed again shouting slogans against Iran's theocratic government in place since the 1979 Islamic revolution
Iranians shouted slogans against the leader of the Islamic republic on Tuesday as they gathered to commemorate protesters killed in a crackdown on nationwide demonstrations that rights groups said left thousands dead, according to videos verified by AFP.
The country’s clerical authorities also staged a commemoration in the capital Tehran to mark the 40th day since the deaths at the peak of the protests on January 8 and 9, in line with Shiite mourning tradition.
Officials acknowledge more than 3,000 people died during the unrest, but attribute the violence to “terrorist acts,” while rights groups say many more thousands of people were killed, shot dead by security forces in a violent crackdown.
The protests, sparked by anger over the rising cost of living before exploding in size and anti-government fervour, subsided after the crackdown, but in recent days Iranians have chanted slogans from the relative safety of homes and rooftops at night.
On Tuesday, videos verified by AFP showed crowds gathering at memorials for some of those killed again shouting slogans against the theocratic government in place since the 1979 Islamic revolution.
In videos geolocated by AFP shared on social media, a crowd in Abadan in western Iran holds up flowers and commemorative photos of a young man as they shout “death to Khamenei,” referring to Iran’s supreme leader, and “long live the shah,” in support of the ousted monarchy.
Another video from the same city shows people running in panic from the sounds of shots, though it wasn’t immediately clear if they were from live fire.
In the northeastern city of Mashhad a crowd in the street chanted, “One person killed, thousands have his back”, another verified video showed.
Gatherings also took place in other parts of the country, according to videos shared by rights groups.
At the government-organized memorial in Tehran crowds carried Iranian flags and portraits of those killed as nationalist songs played and chants of “Death to America” and “Death to Israel” echoed through the Imam Khomeini Grand Mosalla mosque.
Iranian President Masoud Pezeshkian attended a similar event at the Imam Reza shrine in Mashhad.
Authorities have accused sworn enemies the United States and Israel of fuelling “foreign-instigated riots”, saying they hijacked peaceful protests with killings and vandalism.
Senior officials, including First Vice President Mohammad Reza Aref and Revolutionary Guards commander Esmail Qaani, attended the ceremony.
“Those who supported rioters and terrorists are criminals and will face the consequences,” Qaani said, according to Tasnim news agency.
International organizations have said evidence shows Iranian security forces targeted protesters with live fire under the cover of an internet blackout.
The U.S.-based Human Rights Activists News Agency (HRANA) has recorded more than 7,000 killings in the crackdown, the vast majority protesters, though rights groups warn the toll is likely far higher.
More than 53,500 people have been arrested in the ongoing crackdown, HRANA added, with rights groups warning protesters could face execution.
Tuesday’s gatherings coincided with a second round of nuclear negotiations between Iran and the United States in Geneva, amid heightened tensions after Washington deployed an aircraft carrier group to the Middle East following Iran’s crackdown on the protests.
Iranians chant slogans against supreme leader during memorials for killed protesters
Videos show crowds gathering at memorials for some of those killed again shouting slogans against Iran's theocratic government.
nationalpost.com
Ok, but I still say that they should do any regime change, not america and Israel.Support for protests in Iran significant: “81 per cent of Iranians do not want an Islamic republic”
Pooyan Tamimi Arab’s research foundation GAMAAN shows that more than 80 per cent of Iranians do not want an Islamic republic and support protests in the country.
That never leads to democracy.
Do you see Syria, Iraq and Afghanistan as success stories for those peoples?
Why do you think Iran would end up any different than them?
Can you give us one example where american war has made a country better?
You think these are carrying democracy?
Yes, its Iranians that are protesting.
I don't support a US invasion to bring about regime change.
Iraq, Syria and Afghanistan are not appropriate comparisons.
Iraq and Afghanistan were invasions. I've already said I do not support a US invasion.
Syria was a country in deep civil war, with foreign military participation on both sides.
The Iranian call for regime change is from the population, and more or less unanimous than these other nations which were riddled with terrorism, and various warring factions.
Quote me and show where I supported a US invasion, because I explicitly posted I didn't.
Why don't you stop lying and admit that the only reason you want the current regime in place is because they support Hamas and Hezbollah?
It is always about Israel, isn't?
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Why don't you stop lying and stop saying I want the current regime to stay?
The Iranian government should be turfed, like the government in Russia, america, Israel and a few other places.
But not through war.
I know you are trying to argue that you support Pahlavi as leader, but the best comparison is to Machado in Venezuela. The west declared they support them both and used it as excuses to justify invasion. In Venezuela they took out the president, realized Machado had no support and ended up with the same government, So trump is still stealing oil from freighters to send to Qatar and killing fisherman.
Iran is the same, support for a new government isn't the same as domestic support for Pahlavi. And even if it, Pahlavi has been calling for america to start a war to put him in place. That leaves you as supporting the american war, which is exactly the goal of backing Pahlavi.
