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Charlie Kirk Shot in the Neck in Utah (Update: Shooter Alt-right links)

Phil C. McNasty

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brokenglass

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There's people on both sides who want deaths. Social media is now full of AI and bots luring young minds too which is deadly. Lets not act like the world will be some magic utopia one day. A few big players advocate peace but who knows what they say when the camera isn't on their face. Lets face it some folks on the right and left are for the death penalty while others are not. There's tons of extremists groups all over the world leaning right or left or leaning toward whatever religion ideology and such.

Most people aren't stupid. They know US for example has fought wars for resources and lied about it.

Anyone talking to the masses or through some camera voicing their opinion gaining influencers becomes a target and requires tight security. Charlie and others should be well aware of the dangers especially being out in the open. Perhaps he should have been behind some protective bullet proof glass along with other left/right speakers moving forward. A few people who voiced things were shot in the past too.
 

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As tragic as this situation is it has had the opposite effect. It has boosted his popularity and shown the truest of colors of the left. I had only marginally heard of Charlie prior to this situation. Now I've viewed tons of his videos and debates and realized what a great man he was. I suspect his death won't go unanswered based on the out pour of support for him. I just hope they're ready for the fall out.
For the record I believe this was condemned clearly by all the leaders of the left, and those w TV shows. He was not mocked like how Paul Pelosi was mocked. The civil war /kill the libs is a constant theme on the right and 4chan 8chan etc. And a lot of quiet on the right when the Minnesota democrats on a hit list were murdered. I only say this not to "what about" but to recenter the issue. The more the discussion switches to the broad brush " they're all like that!" or assign blame "they started it!" then folks foment the violence, not deescalate it. The discussion has to be to brand anyone who advocates the murder of Americans as terrorsts and anti American.
 

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Alleged Killer of Charlie Kirk ‘Deeply Indoctrinated with Leftist Ideology,’ Utah Governor Says

Charlie Kirk’s alleged assassin was “deeply indoctrinated with leftist ideology,” according to Utah Governor Spencer Cox (R).

In an interview with The Wall Street Journal this week, Cox said it’s become “very clear to us and investigators” that Tyler Robinson, the suspected Kirk shooter, was “indoctrinated with leftist ideology.” According to the Journal’s report on Robinson, his parents are registered Republicans while he “was in the past registered as nonpartisan.”
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The Guardian removed quotes from an article about Robinson this week that identified him as the only “leftist” in his family. The anonymous source who provided the quotes called themselves a high school friend, but questioned their recollections after the article was published.
So your "Hero" reference to The Guardian "news" by an "award winning former NYT journalist" got retracted!

But don't let that get in the way...
 
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That's a college student in a silly animal party costume. Unless trans people are dressing as teddy bears these days?

The individual who identified the room mate as trans is "Mr Unidentified Source". No credibility at all. Daugherty quotes the Post who quotes Sigman who quotes "an unidentified source". The story is beiing corroborated by a chain of people that simply traces back to the first poster.
 
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I'll give the transgender credit at least for tipping off the FBI

But we also have Utah police saying that Robinson was pissed at Kirk for not being right wing enough.

 

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So in other words, Charlie had it coming in your opinion
Had it coming? I think he placed himself in danger by choosing his ideology and pushing it. His udeology was not one of tolerance. I watched his shtick. He was the polite face of some very ugly notions.

Dude, you as a sinning monger would have been a prime target of his evangelical fervor. He would have seen you outed, publicly shamed, and forced to recant publicly with an appropriate donation to his church. Same with your drinking. And anything else you can think of.

He only champions his free speech in the end. His goal was not dialogue, it was conversion. To his narrow world view. Once he had enough, just like a Sharia Law proponent, it's time to change the laws.

So, no, I won't mourn any extremist, especially dishonest ones with a controlling agenda.
 

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Nobody here will admit it for obvious reasons. As for people on socials voicing their opinion in terms of cheering for the death all deserve to lose their jobs of course. How stupid can they be...
 
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Resident, Josh Kemp, 18, told The New York Times that Robinson would ‘always blast music with his roommate’ and ‘never talk to anybody’.

Oliver Holt, 11, told the paper that when he knocked on Robinson’s door last week asking for odd jobs, the alleged shooter was ‘acting pretty strange’ and kept glancing back into his apartment ‘acting kind of nervous and scared’.

Twiggs and Robinson's female next-door neighbor, who asked to remain anonymous, told Daily Mail the young men were ‘reclusive’ and that she had spoken to Twiggs twice in the past two years.

She said she did not see anything about Twiggs that indicated he was transgender.

The neighbor said Robinson and Twiggs had a third roommate who moved out about a year ago. To their knowledge, no others have moved in since.

The third roommate was also a male and did not appear to be trans, the neighbor said.


This is the "trans" roomate doing trans things and wearing women's clothes and makeup.....

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