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Please list the countries that do mental health evaluations before they issue gun licenses??
From ChatGPT. There are others too like Turkey, Brazil etc.,
1. Poland
  • Applicants must pass a medical evaluation, which includes psychiatric and psychological assessments, to confirm they have no mental disorders or psychological dysfunctions prior to obtaining a firearm permit
2. Japan
  • Licensing includes a mental health evaluation at a hospital, extensive background checks, and interviews with family and friends
  • Firearm licenses are valid for three years and must be fully re-examined, including mental health assessment, upon renewal
3. Philippines
  • Applicants must pass a psychiatric test administered by a PNP-accredited psychologist or psychiatrist, alongside background checks and drug tests
4. Australia
  • Requires mental and physical fitness tests, including mental health evaluation, as part of licensing—especially following the reforms after the 1996 Port Arthur massacre
 
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I showed you examples of citizens who are unable to get IDs.
You gave me a stupid answer in return.
That makes only one of us stupid and it ain't me.
"Unable"? Horseshit. Unwilling, more like it. If voting is that important to someone, they'll be able to get verified in the 4 years between elections.

That isn't racism, it's laziness.
 

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From ChatGPT. There are others too like Turkey, Brazil etc.,
1. Poland
  • Applicants must pass a medical evaluation, which includes psychiatric and psychological assessments, to confirm they have no mental disorders or psychological dysfunctions prior to obtaining a firearm permit
2. Japan
  • Licensing includes a mental health evaluation at a hospital, extensive background checks, and interviews with family and friends
  • Firearm licenses are valid for three years and must be fully re-examined, including mental health assessment, upon renewal
3. Philippines
  • Applicants must pass a psychiatric test administered by a PNP-accredited psychologist or psychiatrist, alongside background checks and drug tests
4. Australia
  • Requires mental and physical fitness tests, including mental health evaluation, as part of licensing—especially following the reforms after the 1996 Port Arthur massacre
I'll give you credit for that.

But how many of these countries have it written in their constitution that its citizens have "the right to bear arms"?? None of them do AFAIK.
So even if you denied a person in the US from buying a gun because he/she didnt pass the psych test, it would never pas a constitutional challenge
 

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No one is unable to get an ID, that's a lie. Do they work and pay taxes? They have an SSN or SIN. Did they immigrate? There's a record of that. Do they drive? That's another piece of ID. Do they live in some sort of building, regardless if they own or rent? There are documents that come with that. Don't have time? Give me a fucking break, they've got an average of 3-4 years between elections.
That's why the GOP is so against using most of those things as voter ID.
Canada, for instance allows a wide range of documents to prove ID.
It's why the fact voter ID is required isn't a big deal here.
If that is what the GOP was proposing, it wouldn't be a big deal in the US either.

But that's not the point of voter ID in the current US political landscape.
The point is to use it to stop people from voting who you don't want to vote.
That's why the use of multiple fallback options such as you are describing is so virulently opposed.
 
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I'll give you credit for that.

But how many of these countries have it written in their constitution that its citizens have "the right to bear arms"?? None of them do AFAIK.
So even if you denied a person in the US from buying a gun because he/she didnt pass the psych test, it would never pas a constitutional challenge
The "problem" with the United States, is that the 2nd Amendment is recognized as a right, which is why these discussions are pointless. The US has recognized state rights; so that individual democrat run shitholes can govern as they see fit, but for the national level of gun control that shitlibs dream about, they would have to repeal the 2nd Amendment.

Good luck with that. :ROFLMAO:
 
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Valcazar

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You know the posters here who will never vote conservative because they think they'll be criminalized for paying for sex?

Welcome to the reality of gun owners in Canada for the past almost 40 years.
You think gun owners are voting out of political spite?
 

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"Unable"? Horseshit. Unwilling, more like it. If voting is that important to someone, they'll be able to get verified in the 4 years between elections.
That isn't racism, it's laziness.
No unable. Life events takes precedence over voting but voting is still a right that should not be denied to people.
 
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Valcazar

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And this why you lost an election....
I lost an election because I don't take you seriously?
I didn't realize you were so powerful.

While we're at it proving you're delusional...Still think Disney isn't woke?

That was another beaut you said on here.
It's a corporation.
No, Disney isn't "woke" by any realistic definition of the term.

But since for you, "woke" is "sometimes has things that don't focus on white men", then sure, it's been woke.
 

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Gametes dude we've been over this many many times. It's where wokeness hits a wall and all.

You don't believe in biology?
We have been over and over this, MAGA doesn't believe in biology any more than they believe in science or human rights.

 

Shaquille Oatmeal

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I'll give you credit for that.
But how many of these countries have it written in their constitution that its citizens have "the right to bear arms"?? None of them do AFAIK.
So even if you denied a person in the US from buying a gun because he/she didnt pass the psych test, it would never pas a constitutional challenge
Current state and federal laws already prevent people with mental health issues from owning weapons.
We just need the mental health issue diagnosed before issuing a license.
Not a constitutional issue.
 

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"Unable"? Horseshit. Unwilling, more like it. If voting is that important to someone, they'll be able to get verified in the 4 years between elections.

That isn't racism, it's laziness.
Is that like people who are unwilling to get safes for their gun collections?
 

Phil C. McNasty

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Current state and federal laws already prevent people with mental health issues from owning weapons.
We just need the mental health issue diagnosed before issuing a license.
Not a constitutional issue
It most definitely is a constitutional issue.

I already stated in a previous post that about 47% of Americans suffer from some type of mental health issue, and there's absolutely no way you're gonna deny almost half the country of firearms. It would never survive a constitutional challenge.

And if you disagree, then why have some Blue States not already made it a law that requires a mental health issue diagnosis before issuing a gun license??
 

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No unable. Life events takes precedence over voting but voting is still a right that should not be denied to people.
It's not being denied, it's the most basic, low effort requirement that is still somehow too much for people playing white knight for another group of people they don't actually care about.
 

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It most definitely is a constitutional issue.

I already stated in a previous post that about 47% of Americans suffer from some type of mental health issue, and there's absolutely no way you're gonna deny almost half the country of firearms. It would never survive a constitutional challenge.

And if you disagree, then why have some Blue States not already made it a law that requires a mental health issue diagnosis before issuing a gun license??
NRA and corporate interests.
And no the constitution is interpreted by courts.
Courts have consistently upheld these restrictions as not violating the Second Amendment in multiple cases.
 
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