No Bra, tight shirt. Ladies do you expect men to stare

[The Options Menu]

For me it's a quick glance, and if a woman notices my quick glance it's followed by a quarter nod and a faint smile. Then I go on about my business.

It's the same protocol from when I'd occasionally notice a stripper I've seen in public... (Though it's been a long time on that front.) I'd do the same if I bumped into an escort I've seen.

Basically, take a look, and if you get seen taking a look acknowledge and move on. Don't leer, ogle, cat call, or low key follow / reposition...

It's not rocket science.

 

[barnacler]

Dear Women:

Men are like mosquitoes: if you go off in the forest and take your shirt off, they will notice. A lot.

 

[Jenesis]

Dear Women:

Men are like mosquitoes: if you go off in the forest and take your shirt off, they will notice. A lot.

Who’s taking their shirt off???? 99% if ladies are not doing that.

I'll look wherever I want to look. I don't need anyone's permission.

Again, who is saying you can't simply look politely. People are just making suggestions here.

No one is saying you can’t look impolitely either, just no one needs your permission to call you a creep if you stare too long

 

[Jenesis]

It's only creepy if the woman finds the man unattractive. Otherwise, it's flattering.

So my advice to men and women is to just do you.

If she doesn't mind, bravo. If she calls you a creep, who cares. Time to defang overused nonsense words & toxic attitudes.

If that is what you believe, you are free to I guess.

 

[The Options Menu]

It's only creepy if the woman finds the man unattractive. Otherwise, it's flattering.

Oh come now. That's some incel adjacent (at a minimum) nonsense. Not being a creep requires: a basic understanding of locational, situational, and era specific social norms, and the ability to view people you find sexually attractive as fellow human beings and to be able to put yourself in their shoes.

Shit social skills, or an inherent sense of victimization, are 'you' problems.

 

[JOHNNIE]

Hey ,

First time poster. Curiosity got the better of me

I been seeing alot of women downtown walking around with no bra and tight shirts where you can visibly see the nipple.
Question for the women are you creeped out by this or do you welcome the glances and stares to your chest.

I welcome it and like seeing the differing nipples (poking out, pierced), but I also don't want to creep so what is proper etiquette for this?

Yours truly
Romeo

See if you can sneak a few photos next time

 

[The Options Menu]

Tell that to the infamous gym girls on social media. Your whole "quick glace" thing is enough to make you a creep. Shit, you just have to be looking in the direction and not at the individual to get called one.

If some rando posts a clip of me taking a sideways glance, but then otherwise going about my business (as I would), then posts it and calls me a creep, that says more about them (and their adherents) than me. That would literally have no impact on my life barring me having a public meltdow, or having a public history of issues with women. I wish that sad a person good luck in monetizing their probably equally sad life.

1) Don't be a creep, and 2) Don't be afraid of low probably events with tiny fringes of people.

 

[Valcazar]

If some rando posts a clip of me taking a sideways glance, but then otherwise going about my business (as I would), then posts it and calls me a creep, that says more about them (and their adherents) than me. That would literally have no impact on my life barring me having a public meltdow, or having a public history of issues with women. I wish that sad a person good luck in monetizing their probably equally sad life.

1) Don't be a creep, and 2) Don't be afraid of low probably events with tiny fringes of people.

If anything that sounds like a social media problem, where people are trying to outrage farm.

Hell, a woman at work was clearly braless with her tight shirt yesterday.
One of my colleagues noticed and she and I agreed that the woman who did it wasn't a surprise.

Then we went on with our day.

 

[spacyfoil]

This thread is useless without pics.

 

[lomotil]

If anything that sounds like a social media problem, where people are trying to outrage farm.

Hell, a woman at work was clearly braless with her tight shirt yesterday.
One of my colleagues noticed and she and I agreed that the woman who did it wasn't a surprise.

Then we went on with our day.

Hopefully, you don’t have a toxic workplace where actions may have consequences whether immediate or down the road.

 

[ogibowt]

I'll look wherever I want to look. I don't need anyone's permission.

im sure you wont use any devices and upload your "upskirt" vids to Porn Hub...lol.

 

[Valcazar]

Hopefully, you don’t have a toxic workplace where actions may have consequences whether immediate or down the road.

I don't think she will suffer any consequences.
The place is pretty laid back.

 

[The Options Menu]

RE: point #1, you have yet to define what a creep is - but I did above.

We agree on point #2. Live your life.

I largely did define what the basic requirements for avoiding being perceived as a creep requires. Any definition of a what a creep is, in the current local context, would likely require a long essay, and be an exercise in getting lost in the weeds. Most reasonably functional adults have a lifetime of social skills, and a capacity to adapt to the social norms of a new place. (Mostly, anyway.) Figure it out.

We may agree in part, or on the whole, on 'live your life'. Live your life until you begin foisting unreasonable costs onto broader society, or harming others (harm including reasonable mental distress). Also, be prepared to live with the consequences of those who witness you living your life reacting to it. Being too judgmental is bad. So is totally not giving a fuck.

While people like to bitch, or have a nice bout of public outrage over a particularly antisocial act, for the most part actual people in the real world figure the basics of these things out. It's a miracle really. I'm suspicious of anyone who claims they need rigid definitions (or a full AI dataset) to meet minimal social norms, but I am on TERB.

 

[TempAction]

It's a accountability thing I feel, like yes you absolutly can dress however you want (as long as it's legal) but just know that everything has a reaction. Like you want to have your nipples poking through a shirt by all means but people are going to look and then they will label you as a creep because they don't want to take accountability for what they wear causing a reaction. just physics really. Same thing happens with guys esspically ripped guys with there shirts off walking/running down the main street, they know you're looking and in some cases to the ones they find attractive they want you to look, they just don't go around and call a woman they aren't attracted to a creep because they know obviously people are going to look. It's human nature, we are visual creatures esspically towards things deemed as sexual.

Side point, like I personally do this to dogs, every time I see a dog I smile and admire them because the adorableness is soo fking cute...

 

[xix]

Handsome Men walking on busy street.

@TempAction I like the reference of the dog.

 

[xix]

There is a high school near me with Tim Hortons and plaza near me also.
Yesterday I saw two teenage girls dressed, well you all know, walking a dog. Three teen guys hanging around the side walk standing, then started to walk towards the girls. Both groups were walking towards each other, pass and the guys don't even look back at them (girls) at all. Except the forward guy just turned to say something to his buddies. And the guys just kept walking. I assume they knew each other but it was funny to see no eye contact. And none of the guys were looking at the girls clothing, if that is what is called now days.

 

[TempAction]

Handsome Men walking on busy street.

@TempAction I like the reference of the dog.

Haha why thank you for your kind words . Love the video you posted as an example as well! sums up what I was trying to say much better than my words, so thank you!

 

[xix]

Haha why thank you for your kind words . Love the video you posted as an example as well! sums up what I was trying to say much better than my words, so thank you!

You are welcome.
There are so many, but it first started in NYC with a hot girl model, then everyone does it.

 

[TempAction]

You are welcome.
There are so many, but it first started in NYC with a hot girl model, then everyone does it.

Wow how did I miss this trend, thanks for the info. Apparently I've got some catching up to do!

 

[lurkerjoe]

Freedom boobies are the best type of boobies IMHO. I look, admire, and move on. And it isn’t just men. I saw a woman look back at a pair of freedom boobies but whether it was in judgement or appreciation I didn’t look at her expression long enough to know.