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Thats only partially true.
Another key factor (and the most important one) is the lethality of terrorist attacks.
Islamic terrorists tend to blow up airplanes, trains, concert halls.....etc.
Their death toll tends to be much higher than right-wing terror, which also makes them a greater threat.
We are not discussing Islamic terror in Europe. That's a red herring.
We aren't discussing homicides. That is both a red herring and a criminal justice issue.
We are discussing terrorism in North America being one of the biggest national security threats.
Right wing domestic terrorism is the primary form of terrorism that is a threat to national security in North America - both in number of incidents and number of victims.
They are identified as the primary terrorist threat due to a persistent pattern of violence, over the last several years, with a 320% increase in recent years.
 

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The democrats disowning their own guy because he's a murderous SOB...
keep squirming and spinning lefturds...
 

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Wrong, violent crime (including murders) is a threat to our entire society.
And Blacks commit over 50% of all US murders as I already pointed out.

Here in Toronto its probably close to 90% of all murders committed black gang members.
TPS doesnt keep stats on crimes committed by race, but all you have to do is turn on the 6 o'clock news to see who's doing the shooting
where do you get your numbers from ? Truth social lmao https://www.statista.com/statistics/1466623/murder-offenders-in-the-us-by-race/
according to this black people comprise 29.7%
 

Phil C. McNasty

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We are not discussing Islamic terror in Europe. That's a red herring.
We aren't discussing homicides. That is both a red herring and a criminal justice issue.
We are discussing terrorism in North America being one of the biggest national security threats.
Right wing domestic terrorism is the primary form of terrorism that is a threat to national security in North America - both in number of incidents and number of victims.
They are identified as the primary terrorist threat due to a persistent pattern of violence, over the last several years, with a 320% increase in recent years.
You claimed body count wasnt a factor when determining whats a greater terrorism threat.
I claim you dont know what you're talking about.

As you can see form AI responses below, body counts play a large factor.

From Google AI (important words in red bold):


While lethality (the number of fatalities) is a significant factor in assessing the impact of a terrorist attack, it's not the sole measure of the overall threat. Terrorism threat levels are typically determined by a combination of factors including intelligence, recent events, the intent and capabilities of terrorist groups, and the frequency of attacks. Lethality is a crucial element, but the broader context of an attack's impact on society, including psychological effects and disruption, is also considered


From Grok: https://x.com/i/grok?conversation=1934618448153227675

Q. Is the threat of terrorism measured by lethality of attacks?
A. The threat of terrorism isn't solely measured by the lethality of attacks, though that’s a significant factor. It’s also assessed by frequency, intent, capability, and impact—both physical and psychological. A single high-casualty attack, like 9/11, can reshape global security perceptions, but so can a series of smaller, frequent attacks that erode public confidence. For example, the FBI and DHS use metrics like attack frequency, target type (e.g., civilian vs. infrastructure), and group capabilities (e.g., access to weapons, funding, or networks) to gauge threat levels. Lethality matters—higher death tolls amplify fear and economic disruption—but non-lethal attacks, like cyberterrorism or propaganda, can also destabilize
 
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Phil C. McNasty

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where do you get your numbers from ? Truth social lmao https://www.statista.com/statistics/1466623/murder-offenders-in-the-us-by-race/
according to this black people comprise 29.7%

Blacks, however, represent 26.6% of total arrests, including 51.2% of murder arrests, 52.7% of robbery arrests, 28.8% of burglary arrests, 28.6% of motor vehicle theft arrests, 42.2% of prostitution arrests, and 26.1% of drug arrests (FBI's Uniform Crime Report, Table 43).
 

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You claimed body count wasnt a factor when determining whats a greater terrorism threat.

Q. Is the threat of terrorism measured by lethality of attacks?
A. The threat of terrorism isn't solely measured by the lethality of attacks, though that’s a significant factor. It’s also assessed by frequency, intent, capability, and impact—both physical and psychological. A single high-casualty attack, like 9/11, can reshape global security perceptions, but so can a series of smaller, frequent attacks that erode public confidence. For example, the FBI and DHS use metrics like attack frequency, target type (e.g., civilian vs. infrastructure), and group capabilities (e.g., access to weapons, funding, or networks) to gauge threat levels. Lethality matters—higher death tolls amplify fear and economic disruption—but non-lethal attacks, like cyberterrorism or propaganda, can also destabilize
Yes, body counts don't matter when terrorism is compared to homicides.
Homicide is a criminal justice issue.
Terrorism is a national security issue.
Therefore, even if Terrorism results in a lower body count, it is considered far more serious.
But within the various categories of terroristic murders committed, the body counts do matter.
There are more right wing terrorist attacks, and they result in higher body count, in North America, than any other form of terrorism.
Therefore they are the biggest national security threat in North America.
Here is results for the last 20 years from AI:
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No, you said body count doesnt matter when determining how great a terrorism threat is.
You were wrong. Admit it.
Now add the 9/11 terror attack, and what do you get??
I said even though homicides are more in number, and terror related deaths are lower than homicides, terrorism is still considered the bigger threat, as it is about national security.
You were trying to compare homicides to terrorism.
Here we are comparing terrorism related deaths.
They are not the same.
We are also discussing post 9/11.
9/11 is an extreme outlier and including 9/11 to conveniently "boost" numbers when there is a 320% increase in right wing terrorism recently, would be disingenuous and a false argument.
It is also why the federal agencies don't determine threats that way either.
From a common sense standpoint - which is more likely: A right wing terrorist mass shooting people or a plane hijacked by Islamic terrorists flying into a building killing 1000s?
 
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I said even though homicides are more in number, and terror related deaths are lower than homicides, terrorism is still considered the bigger threat, as it is about national security.
You were trying to compare homicides to terrorism.
Here we are comparing terrorism related deaths.
They are not the same.
We are also discussing post 9/11.
9/11 is an extreme outlier and including 9/11 to conveniently "boost" numbers when there is a 320% increase in right wing terrorism recently, would be disingenuous and a false argument.
It is also why the federal agencies don't determine threats that way either.
From a common sense standpoint - which is more likely: A right wing terrorist mass shooting people or a plane hijacked by Islamic terrorists flying into a building killing 1000s?
You're still not getting it.

When it comes to Islamic terrorism it is by far the greater threat when it comes to mass casualties.
When it comes to frequency of terrorist acts in North-America, thats the only thing you've been right about, right-wingers commit more of them.
But right-wingers dont have same death tolls generally speaking than Islamic terrorists do.
And when I pointed that out to you, you said body count didnt matter when it came to assessing terroristic threat, which again I proved you wrong by with this post:


Last but not least, so far in 2025 Islamic terror has caused many more deaths than right-wingers have.
And thats because of this attack: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025_New_Orleans_truck_attack
 

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You're still not getting it.

When it comes to Islamic terrorism it is by far the greater threat when it comes to mass casualties.
When it comes to frequency of terrorist acts in North-America, thats the only thing you've been right about, right-wingers commit more of them.
But right-wingers dont have same death tolls generally speaking than Islamic terrorists do.
And when I pointed that out to you, you said body count didnt matter when it came to assessing terroristic threat, which again I proved you wrong by with this post:


Last but not least, so far in 2025 Islamic terror has caused many more deaths than right-wingers have.
And thats because of this attack: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025_New_Orleans_truck_attack
So your saying that right wingers and Islamic account for virtually all of the terrorism but that Islamic are just better at it ?
 
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Phil C. McNasty

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So your saying that right wingers and Islamic account for virtually all of the terrorism but that Islamic are just better at it ?
I guess thats one way of looking at it.

The numbers are skewed though, because only 1% of Americans are muslim (3.4 million).
While about half of the US voting public is right-wing (77 million).

In Europe muslim population is around 5%, which is why they've had so much Islamic terrorism.
Far more (and more deadly) than right-wing terrorism

 
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I guess thats one way of looking at it.

The numbers are skewed though, because only 1% of Americans are muslim (3.4 million).
While about half of the US voting public is right-wing (77 million).

In Europe muslim population is around 5%, which is why they've had so much Islamic terrorism.
Far more (and more deadly) than right-wing terrorism

I can't imagine why the middle east would hate americans

 
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