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WyattEarp

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I think most people would say that if the Conservatives don't control the government it will be deemed an electoral loss.
Your thoughts do not match that of the majority of Canadians!!
Most think that Carney is the preferable PM to stand up to Trump!!
I'm not sure what you're reading there Beav. Try not to add too much to the context of words.

I will say it again even if the Conservatives win a plurality it will be an electoral loss for them if they don't control the government.
 

WyattEarp

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No.
I am sure Trudeau is kicking himself for resigning when he did, because he probably believes he could have won thanks to Trump if the timing had been different.
(I am skeptical, since I think the Trudeau-fatigue was a lot stronger than the Liberal-fatigue.)

Carney got lucky with the timing.
I think Trudeau-fatigue is being too kind.
 
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I have the impression that the two month 'GST holiday' from mid December, 2024 to mid February, 2025 was entirely Justin Trudeau's idea, Freeland did not approve, but he went over her head and did it anyway. Her resignation as Finance Minister was announced two days after the tax holiday started.

The Canadian Government fiscal year runs from April 1 to March 31. It will be interesting to see if the 2025 budget proposal passes, in the event of a Liberal government parliamentary Minority. I suspect that Canada's financial situation is significantly worse than we have been led to believe.
Well...it's a tell tale sign, also cancelling carbon tax....so we don't really need it? LoL....just shows you all the schemes these liberals are trying to pull under our feet and when election time comes, it's as if it didn't happen...and the liberal sheeps here defended that carbon tax because it will save Earth...
 
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WyattEarp

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It has tightened up more based on this morning's news. :mad:

Per your article: However, “the election is not (being) held today,” added Nanos, “and the campaign is (about) to happen. And I think this campaign is going to see a lot more volatility than we’ve seen in the other campaigns.”
The snapback in the polls might underlie a volatile electorate. So one would think Poilievre is going to press Carney on specifics.
Buckle up Cowboys!
 

WyattEarp

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Your words are your opinion, nothing else.
This is a rather superfluous comment. I think most everyone here understands that social media forums entail a discourse of opinions.

The US was not heading for a recession and if Kamala had won, your 401 (k) wouldn't be in the mess it is in now. The US wouldn't be in a state of tatters among allies as it is now. The price of coffee wouldn't be going up in the US 30 to 45% because a dumbass POS POTUS put a 25% plus Tariff on countries the US imports coffee from. You would think Trumputin and his clowns would know the US doesn't exactly produce enough coffee beans. Just a small example. How about the price of a car going up 15k, which would have been happening under Kamala? I hope you do not want to buy a Jag, they've announced halting shipments to the US.

Once again, even in the face of one man possibly crippling your economy you are going to try and pretzel it into spouting off it would have been the same under the Dems. WOW LMFAO
All I can tell you is that in my opinion last year is we were on track for a recession. I can't take back my 2024 posts simply because they aren't what you remembered or what you expected. Besides anecdotal evidence on the ground that the U.S. economy was weakening, I could refer you to the inverted yield curve. It was inverted for most of 2023 and 2024.

Per Google AI: Inverted yield curves are often considered a harbinger of economic trouble because they can signal that investors expect future interest rates to fall, potentially leading to a slowdown in economic growth or a recession.

The media likes to talk about soft-landings. Banks don't like to forecast recessions until we are on the cusp of one. It's generally not good for their business to scare clientele and spook the markets.

I could also tell you Warren Buffet pulled back from the U.S. market, but it was just his opinion backed by a lot of money.

"Berkshire Hathaway has been a net seller of equities for nine consecutive quarters, with the company selling more than $134 billion worth of stocks in 2024."
 
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WyattEarp

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Well...it's a tell tale sign, also cancelling carbon tax....so we don't really need it? LoL....just shows you all the schemes these liberals are trying to pull under our feet and when election time comes, it's as if it didn't happen...
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Well...it's a tell tale sign, also cancelling carbon tax....so we don't really need it? LoL....just shows you all the schemes these liberals are trying to pull under our feet and when election time comes, it's as if it didn't happen...and the liberal sheeps here defended that carbon tax because it will save Earth...
If only they said they'd cancel income tax and just raise tariffs.

 

WyattEarp

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Backtrack on policies? Is the color of the jersey the only thing thing that matters to you?

By the way, that's easier said than done for Carney and the Liberals to create a whole new look. I think politics in Canada are going to get very heated in the next three weeks.
Who stated that the "colours of the Jersey" are the only things that matter to me?

Read the link first that I posted and then comment!!
Perhaps I'm being opaque.

If backtracking on policies to win ridings is formula for success, what are the Liberals standing on? What policies do you think they are fighting for?
 

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I am sure Trudeau is kicking himself for resigning when he did, because he probably believes he could have won thanks to Trump if the timing had been different.
Biden is kicking himself. He thinks he could have beat Dewey if he had just hung in there. ;)
 

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I really expected the race to tighten up more.
Of course it will closer to the elections. But remember that not long ago the Righties mentioned that Pee Pee will win hands down and The Liberals will be toast in the oncoming elections!!
 
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I'm not sure what you're reading there Beav. Try not to add too much to the context of words.

I will say it again even if the Conservatives win a plurality it will be an electoral loss for them if they don't control the government.
That train of thought of yours would have been more accurate before Trudeau resigned, and he still ran in the 2025 elections.
Since he resigned most Canadians think that if the Conservatives now win the elections but even with a minority Government, then it will be a big win for them considering how the most recent polls had the Liberals with an almost 10 digit lead. Maybe now you get it!!
 
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I think most people would say that if the Conservatives don't control the government it will be deemed an electoral loss.
Polling in Canada is pretty squarely pro Liberal, Earp.

You and Kirk are pulling each other's puds and smiling happily in a universe all your own. The rest of us live in the real world. 😹
 

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Perhaps I'm being opaque.

If backtracking on policies to win ridings is formula for success, what are the Liberals standing on? What policies do you think they are fighting for?
Obviously, you did not read the link that I posted from oracle's quote not so long ago.
What have the Conservatives really stood for all along? They voted against building more affordable housing. They voted against affordable Childcare to help more women to get into the workforce. They voted against Dental care. Their leader will not have any reporters on his transport to his campaigns. Then and only then are four selective reporters allowed to answer questions. Least transparent dude in line with the previous Conservative PM!!
 

mandrill

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I really expected the race to tighten up more.
No signs of it doing so. In fact, there is a slight tendency for the LPC to pull away even more.

Maybe this one won't be close.

Here's my theory. Politics in Canada is like a dude (or lady) who has a series of marriages. They each last about 10 years. Initially the spouse is passionately attracted to the candidate and party and rewards him / it with large majorities. The attraction fades and the majorities become minority coalitions. And then eventually the electorate becomes angry, disillusioned and dismissive and falls in love with another candidate and the other political party.

And the process repeats over another 10 years. There's no real rhyme or reason. But the process just does the process over and over - essentially ever since Justin's dad was ousted in the 1980's.

This year was the year that Justin was going to be rejected and divorced and Pee was going to be married to Canada. But Pee's support was soft and when a new potential PM-husband came along who said nicer things and seemed to fit the mood and moment better than Pee, Pee too was rejected. Carney is the guy who's captured the popular imagination and the Libs have gamed the 10 year cycle successfully by ditching old husband Justin and enlisting hot new husband Carney.

I think that's the election. Pee no longer fits the mood. There's little Pee-substance - i.e. policies or accomplishments - to make his support harder or more tenacious. He just doesn't fit in any more and he's fated to be a sad cuckold ditched at what should have been the altar of his own betrothal.
 
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WyattEarp

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Obviously, you did not read the link that I posted from oracle's quote not so long ago.
What have the Conservatives really stood for all along? They voted against building more affordable housing. They voted against affordable Childcare to help more women to get into the workforce. They voted against Dental care. Their leader will not have any reporters on his transport to his campaigns. Then and only then are four selective reporters allowed to answer questions. Least transparent dude in line with the previous Conservative PM!!
Progressives only see a life-affirming world where government shapes the society and does more and more things. According to their philosophy, opting to not have the government do more and more things is evidence of a political philosophy without merit and substance.

Basically, you told us that the Conservatives didn't support things you support. That itself doesn't answer my question.

I'm more interested in what Carney's agenda is......how and if he is communicating it.
 
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