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Mike Carney to replace Trudeau as Canada’s new PM

Butler1000

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The only thinking required to connect them is that they are both right wing. And it is not at all a matter of degree. They are both right wing, period.
If you don't think Carney, a private equity capitalist, and banker, is right wing, then how the hell do you define it?
 

mellowjello

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Why would anyone believe Trump to be authentic about anything? Not saying he's necessarily lying either.
If someone would believe that right wing interests in U.S. and Canada are converging, why would they believe the
most right wing guy around when he says they're not.
It's not so much Trump and Poilievre, it's the monied constituency they represent.
 

mellowjello

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If you don't think Carney, a private equity capitalist, and banker, is right wing, then how the hell do you define it?
It depends on what you think makes someone a right winger.
I think supporting universal healthcare and being an environmentalist and promoting a relatively equitable tax system is enough to put you on the left these days.
 

The Oracle

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Why would anyone believe Trump to be authentic about anything? Not saying he's necessarily lying either.
If someone would believe that right wing interests in U.S. and Canada are converging, why would they believe the
most right wing guy around when he says they're not.
If Pierre was a MAGA supporter Trump would be yelling it from the rooftops...
 

mellowjello

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If Pierre was a MAGA supporter Trump would be yelling it from the rooftops...
You might be right.
On the other hand, he wasn't upfront about everything he was going to do until he got elected.
Some of my Trump buddies said this is not what they signed up for.
 

shack

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If you don't think Carney, a private equity capitalist, and banker, is right wing, then how the hell do you define it?
By which party they are in. There are many multiple policies a party has to deal with other than the 2 you mentioned.

People keep talking and bitching about the looney left and Communists and wokists in the Liberal party. If he's the one that was elected by the rank and file Liberals, then he ain't no right winger.
 
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The Oracle

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I suppose this video will not go well with some liberal supporters. What a party, they will do anything for votes. Wake up Canada.

Well...Mr. Squeezer once asked me years ago if I liked anything about Justin and I couldn't come up with one thing.

Now I can.
 
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Butler1000

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By which party they are in. There are many multiple policies a party has to deal with other than the 2 you mentioned.

People keep talking and bitching about the looney left and Communists and wokists in the Liberal party. If he's the one that was elected by the rank and file Liberals, then he ain't no right winger.
Lol. They primarily want to win. To have power and access to it. Please don't kid yourself. The Chretien Liberals were austerity managers and Downloaders.

Carney has indicated the same. In his recent speeches and other comments.
 

Butler1000

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It depends on what you think makes someone a right winger.
I think supporting universal healthcare and being an environmentalist and promoting a relatively equitable tax system is enough to put you on the left these days.
Look at the 57 page Conservative platform. Healthcare is clearly not in danger. Carney is promoting are the tax, and pipelines, and he is a banker, elitist, and private equity guy.

Not much daylight. You are projecting things his record and comments show otherwise.
 

shack

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Look at the 57 page Conservative platform. Healthcare is clearly not in danger. Carney is promoting are the tax, and pipelines, and he is a banker, elitist, and private equity guy.

Not much daylight. You are projecting things his record and comments show otherwise.
Knock yourself out and say that he's a right winger, but the Liberals will not elect a Conservative/right wing leader. That the Loonie Left and Woke Communists have changed their politics overnight is your contention? The proof of where he stands on the political spectrum is in the pudding that is the Liberal Party members.
 

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Who do you hate more?

JT vs Carmey?

Just curious.

Justin Trudeau's hatred is about 99.9999%, while Mark Carney is approximately 90.999%. Mark Carney came in a very close second! (3x Blackface drama teacher) Prime Minister Justin Trudeau—I absolutely hate his guts!

I used to like Mark Carney before he became part of the Davos crowd and sat on the board of the World Economic Forum. Mark Carney’s role in Canada’s climate change and carbon tax during Justin Trudeau’s tenure, along with a picture of him with Mrs. Ghislaine Maxwell, raises questions. He claims he didn’t know her. I don’t know if Mark Carney is telling a lie or the truth! All I know is that if he becomes the next prime minister, it shows a lack of judgment in mingling with Ghislaine Maxwell.

Here’s why I dislike Mark Carney:

Mark Carney’s involvement in Canada’s climate policy under Justin Trudeau evolved over time, reflecting his shifting roles. Trudeau became Prime Minister in November 2015, and during his tenure, Canada implemented its federal carbon pricing framework in 2019. Carney’s direct influence on this policy varied by phase.

Early Years (Pre-Politics): As Governor of the Bank of Canada (2008–2013), Carney laid the groundwork by stabilizing the economy post-2008 crisis, but climate wasn’t a central focus then—his climate emphasis emerged later at the Bank of England.

After leaving in 2013, he had no formal role in Canada until later advisory positions. Trudeau’s carbon tax, announced in 2016 and enacted in 2019, imposed a price starting at C$20 per tonne on provinces lacking their own plans, rising to C$50 by 2022. Carney wasn’t directly involved in its design—he was in the UK—but his global climate advocacy (e.g., TCFD) bolstered the intellectual case for carbon pricing worldwide, indirectly supporting Trudeau’s approach.

Advisory Role (2020s): Carney returned to Canadian policy circles as an economic adviser to Trudeau, notably chairing a task force on economic growth in 2024. He initially supported the consumer carbon tax, aligning with Trudeau’s signature climate policy. However, as public discontent grew—fueled by cost-of-living concerns and Conservative opposition under Pierre Poilievre—Carney’s stance shifted.

Mark Carney's involvement in consumer carbon pricing in the UK and his initial support for the consumer carbon tax in Canada helped drive the cost of living (prices of groceries, inflation, fuel costs, etc.). Then, the final straw was his association with Jeffrey Epstein's associates (Ghislaine Maxwell, a child sex predator and pimp). I don’t know if he is telling the truth about Maxwell Ghislaine. All I know is that it raises a red flag and shows a lack of judgment on his part for mingling with Mrs. Ghislaine at a high-profile estate party.

I would love to see Mark Carney take a lie detector test to determine if he is telling the truth, and I would also like to see the DOJ release Maxwell Ghislaine's black book so I can check if he ever traveled to Epstein's island or if his name is in her black book!

There are too many red flags! Canada can’t take a chance with this individual as a future Prime Minister (Mark Carney). For a non-elected Prime Minister (Mark Carney), hopefully, it will be a short stint like PM Kim Campbell! In the end, globalists or elitists like him are scumbags! Anyone who belongs to the WEF are scumbags!
 
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mellowjello

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Look at the 57 page Conservative platform. Healthcare is clearly not in danger. Carney is promoting are the tax, and pipelines, and he is a banker, elitist, and private equity guy.

Not much daylight. You are projecting things his record and comments show otherwise.
What's your issue with him, his policies or that he's a banker and private equity guy?
 

The Oracle

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Make up your mind, Ory, it's either fake or it's real, so you coming up with something is a moot point at this point and time.

BTW, do you smoke weed?
I have no idea what you are trying to express or convey here.

Maybe someone else can help me out here....
 

mandrill

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The picture was easily explained. Especially when your the owner of the club and Epstein was the member of the club which epstein got banned from the club! This raises serious questions about Mark Carney!
Why did Trump let Epstein join the club???....

Because he knew pedos are often very rich and he wanted Mar-a-Lago to be a rich pedo club.
 
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mandrill

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What's your issue with him, his policies or that he's a banker and private equity guy?
Because Buddy seeks out every little thing he can find or make up about centre left parties, so he can denounce them all for not being left wing enough.
 
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