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Tariffs on Canada delayed for 30 days. Edit: The tariff war has begun.

dirtydaveiii

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Only people who don't like him for biased reasons think he's clueless.
if you suspend that bias, you'll realize that he's very good at setting the stage for negotiations that will benefit his country.
Look what he made Canada and Mexico do to fix border security...just with words.

Crazy like a fox.
Look at how he ruined America's credibility and have made all negotiations worthless
 

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Look at how he ruined America's credibility and have made all negotiations worthless
Right.

Negotiating with Trump is like negotiating with Hamas.

You can't trust what he says, and he is likely to break whatever deal he has agreed to, according to how he feels in any particular moment.

Also, back to Hamas/Israel (sorry for using that as an example in this thread), what happened to Trump's "hell to pay" threat if Hamas didn't return all the hostages two Saturdays ago, or whenever his stated deadline was?

At some point, either you back up your threats with concrete action, or the threats become something your adversary will not take seriously.

Everybody knows Trump's playbook is his "art of the deal", where he threatens something extreme, and then settles for something less extreme that the other side may not like, but will tolerate.

The only trouble with that is, in time, your adversaries will figure out your modus operandi, and that negotiating technique will stop working altogether.
 

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Right.

Negotiating with Trump is like negotiating with Hamas.

You can't trust what he says, and he is likely to break whatever deal he has agreed to, according to how he feels in any particular moment.

Also, back to Hamas/Israel (sorry for using that as an example in this thread), what happened to Trump's "hell to pay" threat if Hamas didn't return all the hostages two Saturdays ago, or whenever his stated deadline was?

At some point, either you back up your threats with concrete action, or the threats become something your adversary will not take seriously.

Everybody knows Trump's playbook is his "art of the deal", where he threatens something extreme, and then settles for something less extreme that the other side may not like, but will tolerate.

The only trouble with that is, in time, your adversaries will figure out your modus operandi, and that negotiating technique will stop working altogether.
Its Netanyahu, the war criminal wanted for extermination, that keeps breaking the deals and ceasefires.
Netanyahu, Putin and trump are a team.
 

Phil C. McNasty

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Mexico will announce this sunday what their retaliatory tariffs will be
 

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Right.

Negotiating with Trump is like negotiating with Hamas.

You can't trust what he says, and he is likely to break whatever deal he has agreed to, according to how he feels in any particular moment.

Also, back to Hamas/Israel (sorry for using that as an example in this thread), what happened to Trump's "hell to pay" threat if Hamas didn't return all the hostages two Saturdays ago, or whenever his stated deadline was?

At some point, either you back up your threats with concrete action, or the threats become something your adversary will not take seriously.

Everybody knows Trump's playbook is his "art of the deal", where he threatens something extreme, and then settles for something less extreme that the other side may not like, but will tolerate.

The only trouble with that is, in time, your adversaries will figure out your modus operandi, and that negotiating technique will stop working altogether.
The Orange Dickhead just tried that with Canada yesterday, when he offered to lower the tariffs 50% if Canada totally dropped our own tariffs. Justin just laughed and told Trump to go fuck himself.
 

Phil C. McNasty

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Doug ford says ‘Zero tariffs – we’re not gonna budge’



Premier Doug Ford’s office says he will not be pausing or changing any tariff countermeasures in response to a one-month tariff delay for the auto industry.

Those measures include ripping up a $100 million deal with Elon Musk’s Starlink internet service, removing U.S. alcohol from LCBO shelves, blocking U.S. companies from participating in billions of dollars-worth of provincial procurement, and going through existing contracts “with a fine-tooth comb” to see what other deals with U.S. companies can be cancelled.

Ford has also threatened to slap a 25 per cent export tax on the electricity that Ontario sends to three U.S. states as soon as possible. That electricity powers 1.5 million homes and businesses in New York, Michigan and Minnesota.


‘Zero tariffs – we’re not gonna budge’

Ford said Wednesday afternoon the province is unwilling to accept any tariffs on Canadian-made goods.

“I spoke to the Prime Minister earlier. We’re on the same page, zero tariffs, and we are not going to budge,” Ford said. “We aren’t going to buckle down. Let’s move forward to the USMCA deal, or CUSMA deal, or NAFTA, whatever you want to call it, and let’s start moving forward. But we will not budge. Zero tariffs. And that’s it.”

He made the comment following a cabinet meeting at Queen’s Park.

At about the same time, the White House confirmed that the U.S. government will give a one-month exemption on any autos coming into the country under the USMCA agreement negotiated by Trump in his first term.

However the relief is temporary and does nothing to remove the tariffs placed on the rest of the Canadian economy. The White House also confirmed that further retaliatory tariffs will go into effect on April 2.

Asked about the pause for the auto industry, Ford expressed skepticism, saying it could just be time for Trump to plan his next move.

“As all we all know, what the President says today may change tomorrow. We’ve seen this pattern, the goal post change constantly,” Ford said.

He added that “there’s no such thing as half pregnant” when it comes to having tariffs or not.

Ford said he believes that talk about the countermeasures has been effective at getting Washington’s attention.
 
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WTF is Millions to a Trillion dollar economy? We spend more on dental care. :ROFLMAO:

Why are we still getting tariffs if we agree to cover the border? Because he needs the money to cover for his lies.

He can't find $2 trillion in saving. Or am I being biased, right? :ROFLMAO:

He's not a master negotiator, he's a conman and you are getting conned.

He's going to lead the stupid down the path of destruction, just like his last term.

Get conned by a con artist my friend.
Don't be silly...I'm not talking about the US economy...I'm talking about Canada's.

It's actually more like over a $1 billion on border security that he had Canada spend without spending a single dollar of his own to make Canada do that.

It's also funny that people are freaking out over tariffs when you can't even buy beer from another province without paying tariffs and we have a PM that "stepped down" yet still clings to power.

You're being played and you're angry at the wrong person. The propaganda is working on you apparently.
 

Skoob

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Look at how he ruined America's credibility and have made all negotiations worthless
Ruined?
But everyone is tripping over themselves to appease the US? Is that what you call "ruined"? Lol!

You guys need to take a course on what business is. You get too emotional and confuse business with perception.
 

DesRicardo

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Don't be silly...I'm not talking about the US economy...I'm talking about Canada's.

It's actually more like over a $1 billion on border security that he had Canada spend without spending a single dollar of his own to make Canada do that.

It's also funny that people are freaking out over tariffs when you can't even buy beer from another province without paying tariffs and we have a PM that "stepped down" yet still clings to power.

You're being played and you're angry at the wrong person. The propaganda is working on you apparently.
See you don't even know the numbers you defend.

Doug Ford's rebates were $3 Billion. Trudeau's food program was $1 billion.

You can't even respond well enough for me to consider you worthy. But here let me show you the profit margins US automakers have. Go a head, Tariff the Auto industry. :ROFLMAO:




Mitchell, laugh.
 
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