Respect is living up to your commitments.
NATO countries for the most part haven't done that regardless of who was POTUS.
BREAKING: Zelensky ADMITS Trump Meeting Went Poorly, Still WANTS Ukraine PEACE DEAL!
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NATO countries for the most part haven't done that regardless of who was POTUS.
Crazy like a fox...for those that can see through their confirmation bias and rage.
That's what I said.
The demand was always for security guarantees in return for mineral deals.
It may have been requested before, but the deal that was to be signed and was agreed upon did not include any such security guarantees.
After that spat with Zelenskyy you can listen to Trump's rambling nonsense with the video in this link. But more important is the scathing attack by the former Polish President on Convicted Felon Trump and his Whitehouse staff behaviour when hosting Zelenskyy:
Polish Cold War Hero Lech Walesa's Letter to Trump: 'Horror and Distaste'
Former Polish President Lech Wałęsa and dozens of ex-political prisoners issued a scathing letter to U.S. President Donald Trump, expressing "horror and distaste" over his treatment of Ukraine's President Volodymyr Zelensky during their fiery White House meeting.
The letter, signed by 39 former Polish dissidents, compares the atmosphere of the Oval Office exchange to interrogations under Poland's former communist regime.
Wałęsa, a Nobel Peace Prize laureate and leader of the anti-communist Solidarity movement, posted the letter on his Facebook page alongside an old photograph of himself with Trump. The letter was also signed by figures such as historian Adam Michnik and former dissident Władysław Frasyniuk.
Newsweek emailed the White House press office for comment outside of working hours.
The letter comes amid heightened tensions in U.S.-Ukraine relations as Washington debates continuing military aid to Kyiv—currently paused—in its defense against Russia's invasion.
Trump and Vice President JD Vance pressured Zelensky to show more gratitude for American support at their Oval Office meeting on February 28, a demand Wałęsa and his co-signers found deeply offensive.
"Gratitude is due to the heroic Ukrainian soldiers who shed blood in defense of the values of the free world. They are the ones who have been dying on the front lines," the letter states.
The meeting collapsed and Zelensky left early without signing a U.S.-Ukraine minerals deal that the Trump Administration argues would eventually give him via economic partnership the security guarantees that he wants.
During a live-broadcast meeting, Trump accused Zelensky of disrespecting the United States and "gambling with World War Three", telling the Ukrainian leader: "You don't have the cards right now."
This remark drew sharp criticism from Wałęsa and other Polish activists, who likened the exchange to tactics used by communist-era secret police.
"We were also terrified by the fact that the atmosphere in the Oval Office during this conversation reminded us of the one we remember well from interrogations by the Security Service and from the courtrooms in communist courts," the letter read.
The letter also referenced security assurances made to Ukraine in 1994, arguing that U.S. support should not be contingent on expressions of gratitude.
"These guarantees are unconditional: there is not a word there about treating such aid as economic exchange," the letter said.
Trump is seeking to end the war and bring about a lasting peace, citing the vast death and destruction and the large financial cost to American taxpayers—money he would rather see spent on domestic priorities.
He said Russian President Vladimir Putin is, from their conversations, prepared to sit down and reach a settlement to end the conflict that Moscow began. But Trump believes Zelensky is not yet ready to make peace with Russia.
All sides recognize that U.S. military support is vital to Ukraine's defense and that, without it, Ukraine and its European allies would struggle to fend off Russia.
What People Are Saying
The letter signed by Wałęsa said: "Prosecutors and judges, commissioned by the omnipotent communist political police, also explained to us that they had all the cards in their hands, and we had none. We are shocked that you treated President Volodymyr Zelenskyy in a similar way."
President Donald Trump posted on Truth Social: "[Zelensky] doesn't want there to be Peace as long as he has America's backing and, Europe, in the meeting they had with Zelensky, stated flatly that they cannot do the job without the U.S. – Probably not a great statement to have been made in terms of a show of strength against Russia. What are they thinking?"
What's Next
The U.S. has paused military aid to Ukraine. It remains to be seen if and when that aid will return.
It may hinge on the signing of a proposed U.S.-Ukraine minerals deal that Zelensky and Trump were supposed to have agreed at Friday's meeting before the event was canceled early after their clash.
Both sides have expressed a desire to see the minerals deal through, despite recent events.
www.newsweek.com
Polish Cold War Hero Lech Walesa's Letter to Trump: 'Horror and Distaste'
Former Polish President Lech Wałęsa and dozens of ex-political prisoners issued a scathing letter to U.S. President Donald Trump, expressing "horror and distaste" over his treatment of Ukraine's President Volodymyr Zelensky during their fiery White House meeting.
The letter, signed by 39 former Polish dissidents, compares the atmosphere of the Oval Office exchange to interrogations under Poland's former communist regime.
Wałęsa, a Nobel Peace Prize laureate and leader of the anti-communist Solidarity movement, posted the letter on his Facebook page alongside an old photograph of himself with Trump. The letter was also signed by figures such as historian Adam Michnik and former dissident Władysław Frasyniuk.
Newsweek emailed the White House press office for comment outside of working hours.
The letter comes amid heightened tensions in U.S.-Ukraine relations as Washington debates continuing military aid to Kyiv—currently paused—in its defense against Russia's invasion.
Trump and Vice President JD Vance pressured Zelensky to show more gratitude for American support at their Oval Office meeting on February 28, a demand Wałęsa and his co-signers found deeply offensive.
"Gratitude is due to the heroic Ukrainian soldiers who shed blood in defense of the values of the free world. They are the ones who have been dying on the front lines," the letter states.
The meeting collapsed and Zelensky left early without signing a U.S.-Ukraine minerals deal that the Trump Administration argues would eventually give him via economic partnership the security guarantees that he wants.
During a live-broadcast meeting, Trump accused Zelensky of disrespecting the United States and "gambling with World War Three", telling the Ukrainian leader: "You don't have the cards right now."
This remark drew sharp criticism from Wałęsa and other Polish activists, who likened the exchange to tactics used by communist-era secret police.
"We were also terrified by the fact that the atmosphere in the Oval Office during this conversation reminded us of the one we remember well from interrogations by the Security Service and from the courtrooms in communist courts," the letter read.
The letter also referenced security assurances made to Ukraine in 1994, arguing that U.S. support should not be contingent on expressions of gratitude.
"These guarantees are unconditional: there is not a word there about treating such aid as economic exchange," the letter said.
Trump is seeking to end the war and bring about a lasting peace, citing the vast death and destruction and the large financial cost to American taxpayers—money he would rather see spent on domestic priorities.
He said Russian President Vladimir Putin is, from their conversations, prepared to sit down and reach a settlement to end the conflict that Moscow began. But Trump believes Zelensky is not yet ready to make peace with Russia.
All sides recognize that U.S. military support is vital to Ukraine's defense and that, without it, Ukraine and its European allies would struggle to fend off Russia.
What People Are Saying
The letter signed by Wałęsa said: "Prosecutors and judges, commissioned by the omnipotent communist political police, also explained to us that they had all the cards in their hands, and we had none. We are shocked that you treated President Volodymyr Zelenskyy in a similar way."
President Donald Trump posted on Truth Social: "[Zelensky] doesn't want there to be Peace as long as he has America's backing and, Europe, in the meeting they had with Zelensky, stated flatly that they cannot do the job without the U.S. – Probably not a great statement to have been made in terms of a show of strength against Russia. What are they thinking?"
What's Next
The U.S. has paused military aid to Ukraine. It remains to be seen if and when that aid will return.
It may hinge on the signing of a proposed U.S.-Ukraine minerals deal that Zelensky and Trump were supposed to have agreed at Friday's meeting before the event was canceled early after their clash.
Both sides have expressed a desire to see the minerals deal through, despite recent events.
Polish Cold War hero Lech Walesa's letter to Trump: "Horror and distaste"
The letter comes amid heightened tensions in U.S.-Ukraine relations as Washington debates continued military aid to Kyiv.
www.newsweek.com
Wasn't he the guy the Liberals invited to parliament but turned out to be a Nazi?...actually that was a Ukrainian guy. That was embarrassing. Lol! Those Liberals can't do anything right.!!!After that spat with Zelenskyy you can listen to Trump's rambling nonsense with the video in this link. But more important is the scathing attack by the former Polish President on Convicted Felon Trump and his Whitehouse staff behaviour when hosting Zelenskyy:
Polish Cold War Hero Lech Walesa's Letter to Trump: 'Horror and Distaste'
Former Polish President Lech Wałęsa and dozens of ex-political prisoners issued a scathing letter to U.S. President Donald Trump, expressing "horror and distaste" over his treatment of Ukraine's President Volodymyr Zelensky during their fiery White House meeting.
The letter, signed by 39 former Polish dissidents, compares the atmosphere of the Oval Office exchange to interrogations under Poland's former communist regime.
Wałęsa, a Nobel Peace Prize laureate and leader of the anti-communist Solidarity movement, posted the letter on his Facebook page alongside an old photograph of himself with Trump. The letter was also signed by figures such as historian Adam Michnik and former dissident Władysław Frasyniuk.
Newsweek emailed the White House press office for comment outside of working hours.
The letter comes amid heightened tensions in U.S.-Ukraine relations as Washington debates continuing military aid to Kyiv—currently paused—in its defense against Russia's invasion.
Trump and Vice President JD Vance pressured Zelensky to show more gratitude for American support at their Oval Office meeting on February 28, a demand Wałęsa and his co-signers found deeply offensive.
"Gratitude is due to the heroic Ukrainian soldiers who shed blood in defense of the values of the free world. They are the ones who have been dying on the front lines," the letter states.
The meeting collapsed and Zelensky left early without signing a U.S.-Ukraine minerals deal that the Trump Administration argues would eventually give him via economic partnership the security guarantees that he wants.
During a live-broadcast meeting, Trump accused Zelensky of disrespecting the United States and "gambling with World War Three", telling the Ukrainian leader: "You don't have the cards right now."
This remark drew sharp criticism from Wałęsa and other Polish activists, who likened the exchange to tactics used by communist-era secret police.
"We were also terrified by the fact that the atmosphere in the Oval Office during this conversation reminded us of the one we remember well from interrogations by the Security Service and from the courtrooms in communist courts," the letter read.
The letter also referenced security assurances made to Ukraine in 1994, arguing that U.S. support should not be contingent on expressions of gratitude.
"These guarantees are unconditional: there is not a word there about treating such aid as economic exchange," the letter said.
Trump is seeking to end the war and bring about a lasting peace, citing the vast death and destruction and the large financial cost to American taxpayers—money he would rather see spent on domestic priorities.
He said Russian President Vladimir Putin is, from their conversations, prepared to sit down and reach a settlement to end the conflict that Moscow began. But Trump believes Zelensky is not yet ready to make peace with Russia.
All sides recognize that U.S. military support is vital to Ukraine's defense and that, without it, Ukraine and its European allies would struggle to fend off Russia.
What People Are Saying
The letter signed by Wałęsa said: "Prosecutors and judges, commissioned by the omnipotent communist political police, also explained to us that they had all the cards in their hands, and we had none. We are shocked that you treated President Volodymyr Zelenskyy in a similar way."
President Donald Trump posted on Truth Social: "[Zelensky] doesn't want there to be Peace as long as he has America's backing and, Europe, in the meeting they had with Zelensky, stated flatly that they cannot do the job without the U.S. – Probably not a great statement to have been made in terms of a show of strength against Russia. What are they thinking?"
What's Next
The U.S. has paused military aid to Ukraine. It remains to be seen if and when that aid will return.
It may hinge on the signing of a proposed U.S.-Ukraine minerals deal that Zelensky and Trump were supposed to have agreed at Friday's meeting before the event was canceled early after their clash.
Both sides have expressed a desire to see the minerals deal through, despite recent events.
Polish Cold War hero Lech Walesa's letter to Trump: "Horror and distaste"
The letter comes amid heightened tensions in U.S.-Ukraine relations as Washington debates continued military aid to Kyiv.
Good for Walesa because it may have helped Zelensky realize that he was wrong and now he's ready to accept the deal.
What has that Ukrainian individual got to do with this Polish Letter to Convicted felon Trump?
As usual a complete distraction by skoob!!
Zelenskyy is not wrong as the world knows that Trump and his asshole of a VP Vance were the perpetrators of this whole spat in the Whitehouse.
The only reason that Zelenskyy has been pleading with for a settlement in this war, is once again Trump suspending the weapons aid to Ukraine and probable sellout to Putin.
You are really a cult follower of Trump!!
Zelensky is a delusional corrupt little Hershey squirt.
The resolution has been laid before him. Sign on or shut up and work with the effeminate European "leaders" (use that term lightly).
The resolution has been laid before him. Sign on or shut up and work with the effeminate European "leaders" (use that term lightly).
The deal had not been agreed to.
The security guarantees were always mentioned as a necessary part of any peace deal and it still is.
The US stopped sharing intel with Ukraine, they are now blind to Russian attacks.
trump is a Putin puppet.
trump is a Putin puppet.
Your issue was that Trump was not respected by other world leaders. Do you honestly have no idea why other western leaders might mock Trump behind his back? It’s pretty obvious, no?
Tucker is the guy who visited Moscow and did a whole segment on how amazing Russian shopping buggies are, right?
No way he's payrolled by Putin.....
It's relevant because Liberals sometimes trust foreigners without vetting them first. Then embarrass our country. It just reminded me of the time they invted a Nazi to our parliament and embarrassed us again. Didn't you find that embarrassing or was this another pass you decided to give Trudeau?
Zelensky changed the parameters of the agreement that he was going to sign and asked for security guarantees which were not part of it.
Trump wants peace. Zelensky wants money. Trudeau has given more than Canada can afford.
Zelensky agreed to the deal and that's why he came to Washington to sign it...the purpose of his trip was not to negotiate it. There was even a ceremony planned for the signing.
The US did not offer or agree to any security guarantees.
Fact is they were mocking him to distract from the fact that they are not meeting their commitments.
They haven't been meeting their commitments for years and when Trump comes along and calls them out for it they laugh behind his back?
Who's laughing now?
YOu have no originality...I wonder where you got that phrase from...just like the democrats...a parrot.
There was no deal negotiated prior.
This was an opportunity to negotiate the deal.
Zelensky was open to signing it provided Ukraine's demands were being met.
That was mentioned even before the WH meeting.
News article before the meeting:
Zelensky to meet Trump in Washington to sign minerals deal
President Trump says the pair are poised to sign a "very big agreement", which Zelensky described as a "framework".
www.bbc.com
Zelensky has described the bilateral deal as preliminary, and said he wants further agreements which include US security guarantees to deter renewed Russian aggression.
But Zelensky said without security guarantees "we won't have a ceasefire, nothing will work, nothing".
"I want to find a Nato path or something similar," he said.
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