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Trump : Palestinians, please move out of GAZA. We (USA) will clean it up and make it the Riviera of the middle east. Then you can come back.

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Klatuu said:
That most certainly is a history for the uninformed.
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I agree. The Palestinian people do exist now.

That doesn't change that under the Ottomans (and back to the Romans), they were part of the same province as Lebanon, Syria, and parts of Jordan; countries that have kept Palestinian refugees locked in camps for political purposes.



p.s. It's a shame that instead of learning to actually debate your opinion, you've learned from frank just to spam us with rando tweets.
 
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Saw a white male "wokester" on the subway the other day. FREE GAZA button on his Hipster clothing - oh look at me, I am seeking attention for being "in vogue" like BLM
I wish these people would actually learn to think critically. Instead they are posers who do nothing but wear a button screaming for attention.
Israel has a right to defend itself, on the other hand we can debate they have gone too far. How much is enough? That is an impossible question to solve.
Sick of our country being assaulted by events happening in their "home" countries. Go back "home" if you want to keep that mindset.
The same mentality that demands the taxpayer rescue them and fly them here once war flares up in the region, because they obtained a Canadian passport for benefits.
 
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Frankfooter said:
Compare how they treat prisoners.
Which side are the terrorists?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1893306995995726170

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1891948657869476084

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1888473048350695566

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1888223771758063623
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I don’t believe your sources. Whenever I take the time to check them it turns out to be bullshit and manipulation.

Generally speaking, those prisoners are Palestinian terrorists. Should be thankful they were spared.
 
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WetSeeker said:
Saw a white male "wokester" on the subway the other day. FREE GAZA button on his Hipster clothing - oh look at me, I am seeking attention for being "in vogue" like BLM
I wish these people would actually learn to think critically. Instead they are posers who do nothing but wear a button screaming for attention.
Israel has a right to defend itself, on the other hand we can debate they have gone too far. How much is enough? That is an impossible question to solve.
Sick of our country being assaulted by events happening in their "home" countries. Go back "home" if you want to keep that mindset.
The same mentality that demands the taxpayer rescue them and fly them here once war flares up in the region, because they obtained a Canadian passport for benefits.
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You sound like you think its way too much to demand Israel respect international law and basic human rights.
 
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Uwauwa said:
I don’t believe your sources. Whenever I take the time to check them it turns out to be bullshit and manipulation.

Generally speaking, those prisoners are Palestinian terrorists. Should be thankful they were spared.
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Its understood that you will never accept reports or care about what evil Israel does.
Your hate for Muslims means you think they deserve whatever happens to them.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1772118375646593074
 
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basketcase said:
... a terrorist group? No. It's not an argument, it's a fact.
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Sure, but they are small peanuts compared to the terrorism, illegal occupation, blockade, apartheid and genocide you back.
Even on terrorist attacks alone, Israel commits way, way more attacks that Hamas.

You back that terrorism, your definition of evil acts in entirely based on the race of the perps.

www.amnesty.org

State-backed deadly rampage by Israeli settlers underscores urgent need to dismantle apartheid

The spike in violence by Israeli settlers against Palestinians across the occupied West Bank highlights the urgent need to end Israel’s occupation of the Occupied Palestinian Territories.
www.amnesty.org www.amnesty.org
 
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basketcase said:
Still Hamas (even though you reject the UN, HRW, ICC reports about it).

Israel throws abusive guards in jail. Hamas celebrates it.
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Bullshit on multiple levels.
Israeli hostages are returning in good shape with no signs of abuse and often hugging or kissing their captors.
Palestinian hostages are returning with torture, rape and missing limbs.

You celebrate the torture and rape of Palestinian hostages.

On every subject, you back acts way more evil than those you condemn by Hamas.

www.amnesty.org

Israel/OPT: Horrifying cases of torture and degrading treatment of Palestinian detainees amid spike in arbitrary arrests

Israeli authorities have dramatically increased their use of administrative detention, a form of arbitrary detention, of Palestinians across the occupied West Bank; extended emergency measures that facilitate inhuman and degrading treatment of prisoners; and failed to investigate incidents of...
www.amnesty.org www.amnesty.org
 
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Frankfooter said:
Bullshit on multiple levels.
Israeli hostages are returning in good shape with no signs of abuse...
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You can pretend that all you want but that's not reality.

And I'm sure you'll say that Hamas strangled the Bilbas infants out of a desire to help them.

Teens forced to perform sexual acts on each other: Report to UN details Hamas torture
www.timesofisrael.com

Teens forced to perform sexual acts on each other: Report to UN details Hamas torture

Government document compiles grim details of abuse of hostages, including whipping, branding with heated iron, isolation, binding, starving, maltreatment and psychological torment
www.timesofisrael.com www.timesofisrael.com

Hours after release, freed hostages talk of Hamas torture, psychological torment
www.timesofisrael.com

Hours after release, freed hostages talk of Hamas torture, psychological torment

Iair Horn was held with brother Eitan at start of captivity, but hasn't seen him since; Sagui Dekel-Chen scarred by torture; Troufanov was held alone, learned to speak and read Arabic
www.timesofisrael.com www.timesofisrael.com

Hamas’s Torture Tactics Are Finally in the Spotlight
www.commentary.org

Hamas’s Torture Tactics Are Finally in the Spotlight

Now that Hamas’s abuse of Israeli hostages threatens to derail the cease-fire, the subject will get more attention. The hostages, especially those who were freed recently, have been concentrating on
www.commentary.org www.commentary.org

Bound, gagged and starved: Released hostages report severe mistreatment by captors
www.timesofisrael.com

Bound, gagged and starved: Released hostages report severe mistreatment by captors

Or Levy, Ohad Ben Ami, Eli Sharabi, who returned emaciated, were reportedly hung by their feet and burned; still in Gaza, Eliya Cohen and Alon Ohel said untreated for Oct. 7 wounds
www.timesofisrael.com www.timesofisrael.com

And you can simply look at the hostages released more resembling holocaust survivors.
 
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Frankfooter said:
Palestinians are not committing genocide,...
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Hamas sure tries. They don't even hide their goals.

Just last week, on of their members said they wouldn't have endorsed Oct 7 if they knew the results but the rest of hamas quickly shut him up.

Senior Hamas official: I wouldn’t have backed Oct. 7 if I’d known outcome for Gaza
Moussa Abu Marzouk says ‘impossible’ to call Gaza war a victory for terror group, says he’s open to discussing its disarmament; Hamas: Words taken out of context, don’t represent us
www.timesofisrael.com

Senior Hamas official: I wouldn’t have backed Oct. 7 if I’d known outcome for Gaza

Moussa Abu Marzouk says 'impossible' to call Gaza war a victory for terror group, says he's open to discussing its disarmament; Hamas: Words taken out of context, don't represent us
www.timesofisrael.com www.timesofisrael.com
 
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