Testimony to EU parliament on how Biden admin started Ukraine war.

[The Oracle]

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North Vietnam didn't have democracy. But I was opposed to
the U.S. dropping hundreds of thousands of tons of bombs over
Vietnam.

Iraq also was non-democratic. But I was also vehemetly against
the unprovoked attack of democratic U.S. on Iraq. And yes I would
have preferred to live in the U.S. not Iraq.

False equivalencies...Russia is a global threat the countries you mentioned are not.

 

[oil&gas]

False equivalencies...Russia is a global threat the countries you mentioned are not.

A lot of countries in the world will disagree with you. They may agree
Russia is a regional threat. Only a small minority of world's nations are
willing to finance Ukraine to fight on. And some if not most of them will
likely give up on Zelensky soon.

 

[shack]

Explain why the National Security deliberately withheld the truth and continued to hammer away at what Russia identified as their red lines.

That's too funny. Withholding the truth is committing an act of war? It is nothing like when Putin's tanks crossed the border into Ukrainian land or like Hamas on Oct.7 when 1,200 civilians were slaughtered and raped.

 

[WyattEarp]

Sorry but I'm not a Russian who invaded a soverign country and are slaughtering its citizens. Russia is TARGETING civilian apartments, schools markets power stations. You want Ukrainians to give up and become Russian serfs like the rest of you vile cowards?

Ukrainians are brave, courageous people. It is up to Ukrainians when they want to stop fighting for their freedom.

ONE man is to blame for, and one man can stop this war and that is Putin.

But I will admit that I am a fucking idiot for engaging with you and your ilk. I'm disgusted with myself.

How exactly do you know if Ukrainians want to keep fighting? So many have left the country. Polls suggest a majority of Ukrainians are tired of the conflict and are willing to concede territory for an end to the war. The Ukrainians haven't held an election in six years. This is not to say they aren't a democracy. It's just pointing out we don't know what Ukrainians want.

People have a tendency to create their own histories, their own narratives. I remember when I was younger people saying the U.S. should have bombed the North Koreans and the North Vietnamese into submission. They're still some of those people still around saying it today. Now I think we can all agree that North Korea is a pretty evil and dangerous regime. So we could say vanquishing North Korea had a similar moral imperative in play.

Of course no two wars are exactly the same, but they follow similar paths. Most wars do not have satisfactory endings. The costs and risks in a war often become too high to continue pursuing a satisfactory outcome.

So we need to ask aside from the moral imperative, what are the next steps in conducting this war? Do we encourage the Ukrainians to start lobbing missiles into Moscow and other Russian cities? Many of us don't see a next step other than more carnage and destruction on a slow, grinding front line.

 

[nottyboi]

That's too funny. Withholding the truth is committing an act of war? It is nothing like when Putin's tanks crossed the border into Ukrainian land or like Hamas on Oct.7 when 1,200 civilians were slaughtered and raped.

Words are stronger then swords. Yes its often words that start wars. Russia has said for a very long time that Ukraine in NATO was a red line. They put their tanks there to put pressure on Ukraine for sure. They were content to leave the pressure on for an extended period, but what we also know is that to further provoke the action, the Ukrainians increased their attacks on Donbas, and that is when Russia hit the go button.

 

[Frankfooter]

How exactly do you know if Ukrainians want to keep fighting? So many have left the country. Polls suggest a majority of Ukrainians are tired of the conflict and are willing to concede territory for an end to the war. The Ukrainians haven't held an election in six years. This is not to say they aren't a democracy. It's just pointing out we don't know what Ukrainians want.

People have a tendency to create their own histories, their own narratives. I remember when I was younger people saying the U.S. should have bombed the North Koreans and the North Vietnamese into submission. They're still some of those people still around saying it today. Now I think we can all agree that North Korea is a pretty evil and dangerous regime. So we could say vanquishing North Korea had a similar moral imperative in play.

Of course no two wars are exactly the same, but they follow similar paths. Most wars do not have satisfactory endings. The costs and risks in a war often become too high to continue pursuing a satisfactory outcome.

So we need to ask aside from the moral imperative, what are the next steps in conducting this war? Do we encourage the Ukrainians to start lobbing missiles into Moscow and other Russian cities? Many of us don't see a next step other than more carnage and destruction on a slow, grinding front line.

Why don't you check with Ukrainians instead of listening to Putin and trump?

 

[shack]

Words are stronger then swords. Yes its often words that start wars. Russia has said for a very long time that Ukraine in NATO was a red line. They put their tanks there to put pressure on Ukraine for sure. They were content to leave the pressure on for an extended period, but what we also know is that to further provoke the action, the Ukrainians increased their attacks on Donbas, and that is when Russia hit the go button.

I don't believe that words have ever been considered an act of war. I guess there was no need for the attack on Pearl Harbor. The Japanese could have just insulted Babe Ruth instead.

Putting tanks on the border was not an act of war. Sending them over the border and bombing the shit out of Ukraine, most definitely was.

 

[kherg007]

Haha that is utter nonsense. Millions of Ukrainians live and work in Russia today. Thousands of Ukrainian POWS have been treated for injuries and returned in exchanges. POWs are even allowed to call their loved ones to let them know they have been captured and are safe. Only the ones in Kursk will probably get harsh treatment especially the ones that foolishly took videos that made them complicit in civilian killing. Russia actually tried and sentenced some Russian soldiers to life for murdering Ukrainian civilians. Let me know when the US or Israel does that.

Why are Russian troops in ukraine? Who is sending missiles to blow up schools and hospitals?
Really.