you got that wrong mate, it's you who wants the war to continue
right wingers want the war to end
Trump cuts off Ukraine at knees, We negotiate peace. then you do what we say.
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right wingers want the war to end
What? Israel initially invaded all those places and then the US moved in? Is that what you're saying?
Not that I believe any of that but, evidently every administration from either party believes it's money well spent because they keep helping their ally.
Or are you saying that you know better than they do what is in their best interests? That would be rather presumptuous as well as arrogant.
Peace talk was initiated by the financier of that warring side not in the
meeting. Financier wants to cut losses immediately but that warring side
wants to continue receivng aid from the finanicer; hence the conflict of interest.
The one who pays cash is the one in control of decision of when fighting
is to stop not the one who pays in human lives. It should be obvious whose
participation in the meeting is redundant.
He has what RasPutin wants. The land that belongs to the people that elected him.
Ukraine with Zelebsky in charge has become hopelessly
dependent on foreign aid. The result is much of the land
resources of Ukraine will to some degree also belong to foreign
creditors after the war.
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That is false. The country is under martial law, under which elections are not allowed.
They (the government) also want to continue receiving money
to pay the salaries of civil servants. It takes a crafty move like
imposing martial law to safeguard their financial well-being
lest voters didn't care about aid money being channeled into
the administration.
Two million Ukrainian civil servants face salary cut-off if Western aid dries up
An analysis by Kyiv sent to its allies, to which EL PAÍS has had access, states that without the promised funds a further million people will be left without social assistance
english.elpais.com
No the Israelis influenced the US to create at famous list, that the USA has been going through. Now Iran is the last one on the list that has not yet been attacked. Sudan has been broken into 2 and now have 2 civil wars going, Syria is destoryed, Libya destoryed Iraq attacked, Somalia kept in chaos and gutted https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2003/9/22/us-plans-to-attack-seven-muslim-states
I wouldn't be as harsh on Zelensky if election could only
be hold at the expense of my salary. Zelensky needed more
funding on top of paying governement workers. If he opted not
to hold an election it was only because the west refused to
cover expenses incurred.
Like us mere mortals Z has a price and he can be bought. But
the west is not willing to pay that price , hence no election.
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AUGUST 28, 2023
STATECRAFT STAFF
Zelensky Appeals to West for Funding War-Time Elections
Elections currently cannot take place in Ukraine due to martial law, which must be renewed every 90 days, and is set to expire on 15 November.
Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky stated that his nation might hold elections during wartime provided that partners in the US and Europe offer financial assistance, legislators give approval, and everyone can get to the polls.
Elections currently cannot take place in Ukraine due to martial law, which must be renewed every 90 days, and is set to expire on 15 November, after the normal date in October for parliamentary elections but before presidential elections in March 2024.
Zelensky Plans for Elections
Top US lawmakers visited Kyiv in August, including Senator Lindsey Graham, who praised Ukraine’s battle against Russian President Vladimir Putin, but said the nation needed to prove it was different by conducting elections during the war.
In a televised interview, Zelensky stated that he discussed the subject with Graham, including finances and the need for amending the law.
According to Zelensky, elections in Ukraine under martial law are only possible if all people, including military personnel and forced migrants from other countries, have the right to vote; financing and the presence of international monitors at polling stations on the frontlines must also be assured.
Zelensky asserted,
“We need every vote. We won’t be able to say for ourselves that this was a very democratic election. We need a legitimate choice. We need this choice to be made by society. So that it does not divide our people. We need the military to be able to vote. They are defending this democracy today, and not giving them this opportunity because of the war is unfair.”
Volodymyr #Zelensky: “We are ready to fight for a long time”.
The president of #Ukraine stated that organizing elections is possible "if the United States and the EU are ready to give us 5 billion euros".
"I will not run elections on credit," he added.… pic.twitter.com/4aFXukAQRj
— X News Monitor (@xNewsMonitor) August 27, 2023
Ukraine Needs Financial Assistance
President Zelensky added that another challenge associated with having elections during the war is a lack of funds. He stated that holding elections in peacetime costs 5 billion hryvnia ($135 million), adding that he does not know how much is needed for the same during war time.
Zelensky stressed that he will “not take money from weapons and give it to elections. And this is stipulated by the law.” However, he asked for assistance from the West, saying, “If you give me this financial support, if the parliamentarians realise that we need to do this, then let’s quickly change the legislation and, most importantly, let’s take risks together.”
The Ukrainian president also considered that for the organising polling stations, there should be the presence of observers, including international observers. “Observers should be in the trenches. I told him [Graham]: Observers must be sent to the frontlines so that the elections are legitimate for us and for the whole world. And this is absolutely fair.”
Zelensky emphasised that a large number of Ukrainians are now living abroad, notably in the EU, and that safeguarding their expression of will also needs major resources and voting locations, both of which Ukraine lacks in large numbers.
“7 million people have to vote. We do not have such infrastructural capacities - we need to provide appropriate opportunities there,” he remarked.
Ukraine: Zelensky Appeals to West for Funding War-Time Elections
Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky stated that his nation might hold elections during wartime provided that partners in the US and Europe offer financial assistance,
www.statecraft.co.in
You seem obsessed with replying inanely to my posts.
Hamas says the same thing.
trump sounds just like declaring that Palestinians never should have chosen to be occupied.
there is the problem
the west gave almost $500 Billion to Ukraine and it wasn't enough
it's always about more money with this Zelinsky guy
Everyone would like the war to end. The difference is that some people want a just end, where the invaded democratic country defends it's sovereignty and pushes out the aggressor, while other people (a minority), are OK with the invading communist country successfully seizing new territory.
