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K Douglas

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Respectively K, Trump is being economically and politically hostile towards their greatest ally.

Elon musk is seen as an extension of Trump. Leftist media is framing him as the de facto president.

So no I completely understand why Canadian politicians and citizens would shun Musk's brand.
You need to ask yourself why that is. Have we been a good neighbor, a good trading partner, a good ally? And under Trudeau you can make the argument we have not been.
 

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Open border policy?
Are you claiming people can come through a port of entry in California without a visa or paperwork?
He supports California being a sanctuary state. Meaning that if people sneak into the state or overstay their visa, the government will put the mechanisms in place to support them against being deported.
 

Shaquille Oatmeal

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He supports California being a sanctuary state. Meaning that if people sneak into the state or overstay their visa, the government will put the mechanisms in place to support them against being deported.
Sanctuary cities means a police officer cannot arrest someone solely for their immigration status.
Any other crime the person can be deported or arrested.
That is not far left in the slightest.
 

Butler1000

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The Democrats are not left wing?...This is as crazy a statement that you have ever made here.
Just to be clear. Joe Biden was a War and Crime Hawk known as the Senator from MNBA.

Bill Clinton ushered in the death of New Deal Democrats.

Hillary was a War Hawk as well. As Pro Business as it gets.

Do I need to get into the other party leadership? Pelosi? Schumer? Reid? Hell Obama never ended a war, bailed out the Banks and let them foreclose on 500,000 homes and was known as the Deporter in Chief and all of them were against Gay Marriage until the courts ruled otherwise.

And not one reduced or even held the line on military spending.

So ya, compared to world average Overton window, centrist to right wing. More than Harper and PP.
 
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PeterParker1000

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Just to be clear. Joe Biden was a War and Crime Hawk known as the Senator from MNBA.

Bill Clinton ushered in the death of New Deal Democrats.

Hillary was a War Hawk as well. As Pro Business as it gets.

Do I need to get into the other party leadership? Pelosi? Schumer? Reid? Hell Obama never ended a war, bailed out the Banks and let them foreclose on 500,000 homes and was known as the Deporter in Chief and all of them were against Gay Marriage until the courts ruled otherwise.

And not one reduced or even held the line on military spending.

So ya, compared to world average Overton window, centrist to right wing. More than Harper and PP.
They were normal and centrist. Why did Democrats all move over so far left. This is what cost them both elections against Trump.
 

Butler1000

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They were normal and centrist. Why did Democrats all move over so far left. This is what cost them both elections against Trump.
Um, I discussed two of the last three he faced. And Harris was a puppet placeholder. She would have spent four years in a vague alcoholic haze while a team handpicked by Wall Street, the Pentagon and Nancy Pelosi ran things.

Note the mention of the Overton Window. The USA is at the moment quite right wing. I expect this to last until people have enough and a new charismatic FDR rises again.
 

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Um, I discussed two of the last three he faced. And Harris was a puppet placeholder. She would have spent four years in a vague alcoholic haze while a team handpicked by Wall Street, the Pentagon and Nancy Pelosi ran things.

Note the mention of the Overton Window. The USA is at the moment quite right wing. I expect this to last until people have enough and a new charismatic FDR rises again.
The Overton Window shifted in the US, this is correct. Now the US is trying to shift the window for the rest of the world to come around. You can see pushback but I see it shifting, ever so slightly.

People will have enough where there is cohesion everywhere and everything has shifted back to the center and the progressive ideologies have been erased from mainstream culture. I truly believe this can be accomplished. Not unlike battling the spread of communism within its own citizens in the United States during the early/mid 20th century. We will get there but I think it will take another one or two more terms of right wing leadership after Trump.
 

Butler1000

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The Overton Window shifted in the US, this is correct. Now the US is trying to shift the window for the rest of the world to come around. You can see pushback but I see it shifting, ever so slightly.

People will have enough where there is cohesion everywhere and everything has shifted back to the center and the progressive ideologies have been erased from mainstream culture. I truly believe this can be accomplished. Not unlike battling the spread of communism within its own citizens in the United States during the early/mid 20th century. We will get there but I think it will take another one or two more terms of right wing leadership after Trump.
You will see it will end up the same way as the mid 1920's. Which led to the mid 1930's. Which led to the New Deal.

Economic progressive policy when it comes to govt is not going to change. Social Security, Medicare is not going anywhere, and one large recession/depression will expand it. That is coming. Make no mistake.
 
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You will see it will end up the same way as the mid 1920's. Which led to the mid 1930's. Which led to the New Deal.

Economic progressive policy when it comes to govt is not going to change. Social Security, Medicare is not going anywhere, and one large recession/depression will expand it. That is coming. Make no mistake.
Lol ok, so it’s good that Elon is cutting so many programs now. The larger the deficit we have, the larger the pain it will be when that eventually happens. Social security and Medicare has to remain, but Medicaid and all other social programs will be abandoned to prepare for this.

Also you do realize that if the US falls at any point, so does Canada, which is an end to the social programs up there.
 

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Then why did the cities refuse to allow ICE access to prisons?
Sanctuary cities as a matter of policy limit police participation with ICE.
Someone who is in jail for possession of an ounce of weed, can be deported to a place where their lives may be in danger.
So it is reasonable to restrict participation with ICE for those reasons.
 
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