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Ford passed the legislation for ripping up the bike lanes TODAY!!

Leimonis

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question for people who do bike in the winter: do you guys use fat bikes?
And also, how many times have you fallen on ice?
I’m curious to try it, but I’m a little bit hesitant
 

Anbarandy

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You're hilarious. You post photos of heavy traffic on major highways. As if somehow Doug Ford created all of it by proposing to remove a couple bike lanes in the city. I've mentioned it many times, the vast majority of the people who drive, do so, despite the traffic photos you continually post, because it's still the fastest way to their destination. Unless you're traveling to a destination that's well served by public transit, driving is still the best option. If you don't believe me, open Google Maps, pick a destination (downtown to somewhere in Markham for example) and see what the fastest way is.

Example: Yonge and Bloor to the Pacific Mall at Kennedy Rd. and Steeles Ave. E.

Cycling: 1 hr 38 mins
Transit: 1 hr 7 mins
Driving: 26 mins

Now if you're going from Dufferin TTC station to Warden TTC station, obviously the subway is going to be faster. Let's see by how much.

Cycling: 1 hr 1 min
Transit: 31 mins
Driving: 36 mins

So yes, transit at this time of the day will save you a whole 5 minutes. And that's along a direct subway line. Now, if you have to travel any additional distance to/from the subway stations, driving is going to be way faster.

And you still don't understand why so many people choose to drive?
Oh look, it's Toronto's self-proclaimed numero uno cyclist and self-knighted Sir Bike Lane Monitor Boy, tin badge, tin armor, cyclist prodding tin lance and all to the rescue.

Yes, it's the same Sir Bike Lane Monitor Boy who has:

1) Never come across a motor vehicle operator killed, dismembered, maimed, doored, injured cyclist that was reported/not reported by the media that didn't deserve their fate despite zero evidence to support his claims which are wholly formed and fed by his epic anti-bike lane monitoring crusades.

2) Never came across traffic calming measures to reduce speed, enhance safety and reduce motor vehicle carnage and mayhem on urban, inner city, local, neighborhood roads that he did not deride, scorn and scoff at as just, "civic gov't sticking their greedy noses into our freedom to do whatever we feel like doing on the roads, damn the consequences. Yessiree Bob, cheers and champions repeated, speed camera destruction on a local, neighborhood 2km stretch of road that is used an expressway by some motorists and which has seen 1500 motor vehicle collisions in 10 years, that's 3 collisions a week for 520 weeks!

3) Never came across a scintilla, an iota, a smidgeon of reality, sense, sane and logical evidentiary based justification that he has been able to offer as evidence to buttress his claim that:

Restoring a few kms of urban, inner city, local and neighborhood road lanes as proposed by the "stay in your f*cken provincial lane and keep out of local, neighborhood issues where you don't f*cken belong" corrupt, conniving, wastrel, scoundrel of a Premier, will actually amount to nothing more than a divisive, disingenuous, culture war wedge issue that doesn't reduce motor vehicle caused traffic congestion, gridlock, mayhem and carnage on friggin bit.

4) Never capable of seeing, grasping, comprehending, absorbing, processing what is squarely right in front, to right, to the left of his very eyes which is:

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GameBoy27

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Oh look, it's Toronto's self-proclaimed numero uno cyclist and self-knighted Sir Bike Lane Monitor Boy, tin badge, tin armor, cyclist prodding tin lance and all to the rescue.

Yes, it's the same Sir Bike Lane Monitor Boy who has:

1) Never come across a motor vehicle operator killed, dismembered, maimed, doored, injured cyclist that was reported/not reported by the media that didn't deserve their fate despite zero evidence to support his claims which are wholly formed and fed by his epic anti-bike lane monitoring crusades.

2) Never came across traffic calming measures to reduce speed, enhance safety and reduce motor vehicle carnage and mayhem on urban, inner city, local, neighborhood roads that he did not deride, scorn and scoff at as just, "civic gov't sticking their greedy noses into our freedom to do whatever we feel like doing on the roads, damn the consequences. Yessiree Bob, cheers and champions repeated, speed camera destruction on a local, neighborhood 2km stretch of road that is used an expressway by some motorists and which has seen 1500 motor vehicle collisions in 10 years, that's 3 collisions a week for 520 weeks!

3) Never came across a scintilla, an iota, a smidgeon of reality, sense, sane and logical evidentiary based justification that he has been able to offer as evidence to buttress his claim that:

Restoring a few kms of urban, inner city, local and neighborhood road lanes as proposed by the "stay in your f*cken provincial lane and keep out of local, neighborhood issues where you don't f*cken belong" corrupt, conniving, wastrel, scoundrel of a Premier, will actually amount to nothing more than a divisive, disingenuous, culture war wedge issue that doesn't reduce motor vehicle caused traffic congestion, gridlock, mayhem and carnage on friggin bit.

4) Never capable of seeing, grasping, comprehending, absorbing, processing what is squarely right in front, to right, to the left of his very eyes which is:

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Jeeeeze, settle down there crybaby, drama queen. You might give yourself an aneurysm.

You continually post the same photos of traffic on major highways. I explained why a large percentage of the population drive in this expansive area known as the GTA. Because it's typically faster than cycling or taking public transit. If you would care to use Google Maps as I suggested, you'd see that I'm correct. Why is it so hard for you the acknowledge facts?

News flash. Adding or removing a couple bike lanes in the downtown core, isn't going to change the fact that driving is a faster and more convenient way to get around many parts of the city and province.
 
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Leimonis

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A lot? ALL of them are supposed to use bike lanes in ALL of the seasons. What kind of question is that?
They're supposed to, yes. But what's truly amazing, is that even on streets with dedicated bike lanes, many food delivery riders still choose to slalom between pedestrians on the sidewalk. They really should be licenced, with a big number displayed on the pack they carry the food in.
 
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Anbarandy

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Jeeeeze, settle down there crybaby, drama queen. You might give yourself an aneurysm.

You continually post the same photos of traffic on major highways. I explained why a large percentage of the population drive in this expansive area known as the GTA. Because it's typically faster than cycling or taking public transit. If you would care to use Google Maps as I suggested, you'd see that I'm correct. Why is it so hard for you the acknowledge facts?

News flash. Adding or removing a couple bike lanes in the downtown core, isn't going to change the fact that driving is a faster and more convenient way to get around many parts of the city and province.
Ha!

What a typical non-answer to the central issue of this thread which you repeatedly demonstrated that you nor anyone else have not been capable of answering:

How does restoring a few kms of urban, inner city, local and neighborhood road lanes as proposed by the "stay in your provincial lane and keep out of local, neighborhood issues where you don't belong" Premier, actually amount to nothing more than a divisive, disingenuous, culture war wedge issue that doesn't reduce motor vehicle caused traffic congestion, gridlock, mayhem and carnage on tiny little bit at all?

You just keep prattling on about the wonders and glory and Godliness of motor vehicle driving as if you are a GM executive pitching urban cities across North America in the '50s to build expressways, expressways, expressways!

Open your eyes, what is the issue of this thread?

A cynical election red meat ploy that posits restoring a few kms of urban, inner city, local, neighborhoods roadways as a panacea for motor vehicle caused congestion, gridlock and mayhem.

Are you really that dense? Are you that much of a rube? You seem to be much smarter than that, so why the utter irrelevant inanities to the topic of this thread that you continually come up with?

All that millions-vehicle mass of metal, glass, rubber and plastic hording towards, in, out, around, through Toronto that to your consternation I plaster in the faces of the whiny, crybaby, drama queen "war on the car" ninnies on this board all FUNNEL at various CHOKE points throughout the Toronto and the GTA which causes exactly the problem that you bellyaching babies falsely and petulantly blame on a few kms of urban, inner city, local. neighborhood cycle lanes.
 
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Anbarandy

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They're supposed to, yes. But what's truly amazing, is that even on streets with dedicated bike lanes, many food delivery riders still choose to slalom between pedestrians on the sidewalk. They really should be licenced, with a big number displayed on the pack they carry the food in.
You should give yourself the power that such a prestigious Bike Lane Monitor Boy as yourself warrants, the power to tackle and ticket wastrel, scofflaw e-commerce serfs.
 
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shack

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They're supposed to, yes. But what's truly amazing, is that even on streets with dedicated bike lanes, many food delivery riders still choose to slalom between pedestrians on the sidewalk. They really should be licenced, with a big number displayed on the pack they carry the food in.
Then it's a waste having the bike lanes. How long will it take to remove them from the first 3 streets?

Maybe Anbarandy knows. How long will it take to complete the first phase?
 

shack

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Ha!

What a typical non-answer to the central issue of this thread which you repeatedly demonstrated that you nor anyone else have not been capable of answering:

How does restoring a few kms of urban, inner city, local and neighborhood road lanes as proposed by the "stay in your provincial lane and keep out of local, neighborhood issues where you don't belong"
I don't think that that is the central issue of this conversation. Instead of asking hypotheticals, we have actual results that can be analyzed. Installing the bike lanes was/is an experiment. What has been the result of this experiment over how long a time?

Since the bike lanes were put in, has traffic in Toronto improved? How many kms of bike lanes have been installed?

This is what is the central issue is and what we should be discussing. Do bike lanes work in Toronto?
 

Anbarandy

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I don't think that that is the central issue of this conversation. Instead of asking hypotheticals, we have actual results that can be analyzed. Installing the bike lanes was/is an experiment. What has been the result of this experiment over how long a time?

Since the bike lanes were put in, has traffic in Toronto improved? How many kms of bike lanes have been installed?

This is what is the central issue is and what we should be discussing. Do bike lanes work in Toronto?
Et tu a rube?

Ford posits that through his overarching legislation, which forms the basis for the topic of this thread, read the thread title please, that:

Restoring a few kms of urban, inner city, local, neighborhood road lanes is the panacea for motor vehicle caused congestion, gridlock, mayhem and carnage.

And rubes just like you lick it all up.
 

shack

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I am talking in terms of justifying maintaining them in winter
And along with the minimal use they get in winter, they can't be justified. But, seeing as you can't paint and remove paint or remove barriers and replace barriers a couple of times each year, if we're going to keep them it has to be for 12 months.
 

shack

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Et tu a rube?

Ford posits that through his overarching legislation, which forms the basis for the topic of this thread, read the thread title please, that:

Restoring a few kms of urban, inner city, local, neighborhood road lanes is the panacea for motor vehicle caused congestion, gridlock, mayhem and carnage.

And rubes just like you lick it all up.
I am looking for information to see if he is making the right decision or not.

We now have actual data as to the effectiveness of bike lanes. My question is valid. Has traffic improved since X number of kms. of bike lanes were installed, because that goes directly to the bottom line which is how well traffic (all modes) is moving.

Try not to wear your ruby red slippers and descend from over the rainbow and think logically with actual data instead of asking hypothetical questions.

I know that I have been guilty but that doesn't excuse you from being condescending when you are no position to be so smug, Dorothy.
 
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Anbarandy

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I am looking for information to see if he is making the right decision or not.

We now have actual data as to the effectiveness of bike lanes. My question is valid. Has traffic improved since X number of kms. of bike lanes were installed, because that goes directly to the bottom line which is how well traffic (all modes) is moving.

Try not to wear your ruby red slippers and descend from over the rainbow and think logically with actual data instead of asking hypothetical questions.

I know that I have been guilty but that doesn't excuse you from being condescending when you are no position to be so smug, Dorothy.
Ford did not feel the need to inform himself of any data nor evidence in determination that he was/is making the right decision regarding his Bill 212, Reducing Gridlock, Saving You Time Act, 2024 especially:


Part XII.1 is added to the Highway Traffic Act respecting bicycle lanes. Under the new Part,

(a) municipalities are required, in certain circumstances, to obtain the Minister’s approval before constructing bicycle lanes or to provide the Minister with information relating to existing bicycle lanes;

(b) the Minister is required to remove specific bicycle lanes in the City of Toronto; and

(c) the Lieutenant Governor in Council may order the removal of other bicycle lanes in certain circumstances.

Other provisions address various matters relating to the removal of bicycle lanes, including the powers of the Minister or a person acting on the Minister’s behalf in removing such lanes, municipalities’ obligation to provide to support or information, the reimbursement of municipalities for certain costs, and the immunity from liability of the Crown, municipalities and other persons.


He just did it, in spite and despite of any supporting evidentiary data forming the basis of this part of his legislation especially concerning Part II.1 b).

His data and evidence amounted to the following:

"These bike lanes on Bloor, University and Yonge are causing chaos on the roads in Toronto. People are stuck in traffic from Toronto to Timbuktu!"

I'm sorry Shack, but when you are unable to call Ford's bike lane bullshitting for just what it is, plain ole Ford bullshit, then you definitely have a bias caused cognition deficit.
 
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