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For the People Who Said not to Vote for Harris/The Dems Because of Gaza

basketcase

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So far Trump still stood up to Israel to reduce the slaughter in Gaza. What happens next remains to be seen. Is Trumps crazy and illegal idea a ploy or a plan? Of course its not something that can be executed in his presidency so its not gonna happen.
Did you not bother reading what he's claimed because the latest is he wants Israel to clean out the strip so he can start building.

 

basketcase

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Hahahahah, this was him desperately trying to walk back what he actually stated in the first place:
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True, but the uproar in the US was about US troops, not the idea of forcibly resettling Palestinians.


All the Nations in that region except Israel condemned his statement. They stated that there is no way that the Palestinians should be displaced against their will!!
Even in Israel, there is significant opposition to the idea in the government. Netanyahu and his crew have made statements but he is Prime Minister, not a president who can bombard the country with executive orders. He also doesn't have a majority in his government right now and is only holding on because opposition parties are playing too nice in a time of war to force a non-confidence vote.
 
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basketcase

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Trump met with Netanyahu and then publicly announced that only 1.8 million Palestinians are still living in Gaza.
That means trump and Netanyahu think Israel killed 600,000.

Do you believe them?

What a surprise. You're complaining Trump wants to do exactly what he said before the election in having Israel "finish Gaza" but you were too busy swallowing the disinformation that Biden was the one actually committing genocide.
 

shack

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The original estimate were that there were only 20,000 Hamas, now you're saying Israel has killed them all?
Do you know what estimate means? A guess.

You gave an estimate the other day that 600,000 have now been killed in Gaza. Well, that is off by 15X according to Hamas themselves.

15X hamas soldiers means that there were 300,000 not 20,000. That is the value of estimates.
 

basketcase

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The 62,000 is for those who went missing and were unaccounted for. What is wrong with Aljazeera, when they have journalists on the ground in Gaza, and even some of them were killed by the IDF? Now that the Palestinians have discovered more bodies that were missing, that is the latest update. Stop living in denial!!
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I'm pretty sure that pretty soon after the 7th I posted that Israel was put in a no win situation. After Hamas' actions which mainly targeted civilians, it was clear that their practice of 'mowing the grass' and slowly improving conditions in Gaza was not capable of stopping Hamas. That left them either allowing Hamas to get away with it making them look weak and still having to bend the knee in negotiations for the hostages or striking hard at Hamas who would be deeply embedded in the civilian population. And for Hamas, who has made clear that their goal of destroying Israel being more important than conditions in Gaza, either one would be a win. The only other option I could see is worldwide action to defang Hamas but Israel has too many enemies and both Russia and China have too many pawns in play geopolitically to let that happen.

As for what's wrong with AJ? Other than being state run media for a country with a horrible human rights record and actively playing games for regional power, nothing.
 

shack

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You really shouldn't just make shit up like that, it makes you look foolish. Posting your opinion with nothing to back it up
You post more opinions and accusations than anyone. And when you use sources like "I'll jizz on ya'", you admit that you can't back those opinions and accusations.

means you want us to accept us to take the opinion of a Kahanist
You praised the "renowned|" Hitler yesterday. No need to say more.
 

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shack

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The Israeli 972 magazine details how Palestinians were vapourized and gassed to death using 1,000 lb american bombs.
Your sources are as weak as ever. 972 Magazine is a biased ultra left publication.

From NGO Monitor:
+972 Magazine is a “blog-based magazine” that publishes English-language articles for an international audience. 972’s articles promote a marginal agenda from the fringes of Israeli discourse, thus presenting a distorted sense of the debate in Israel.

From MediaBiasFactCheck of 972 Magazine:
Bias Rating: LEFT-CENTER (-4.7)
uses information that utilizes loaded words (wording that attempts to influence an audience by using appeal to emotion or stereotypes) to favor progressive/liberal causes.
As far as this Fact Checking source: MBFC Credibility Rating: HIGH CREDIBILITY

Once again, your sources are biased and have no credibility.
 

shack

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I think the occupation, blockade, apartheid and genocide were all incredibly stupid and incredibly evil.
You think it was smart of Israel to drop bombs on their own people to justify genocide.
That is not an answer to his question. Keep running away from answering a simple question. That is what you routinely do.
 
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Frankfooter

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You're wasting your breath/TERB bandwidth.

He won't answer or possibly he'll deflect with different questions.
There are hundreds of questions you won't answer, shack.
I've already answered, it was really fucking stupid and evil for Israel illegally occupy Palestine, rule through apartheid and to kill so many of their own people on Oct 7 to justify genocide.

Just as its really fucking stupid and evil to continue to justify genocide.


 

Frankfooter

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That is not an answer to his question. Keep running away from answering a simple question. That is what you routinely do.
Answered repeatedly, you just won't accept the answer.
Same as you can't answer where you think the borders of Israel are, whether Palestinians are humans who deserve basic rights or why you think genocide is smart.

Did Israel use a nuke on Syria?

 

Frankfooter

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What a surprise. You're complaining Trump wants to do exactly what he said before the election in having Israel "finish Gaza" but you were too busy swallowing the disinformation that Biden was the one actually committing genocide.
Biden spent a year actively aiding and funding genocide.
As a result, Harris lost the election.

Now you've got zionism partnering with MAGA to create US fascism yet you want to blame the people who wouldn't vote for genocide instead of the fucking evil people committing genocide and aiding it.

shack says this isn't apartheid.

 
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