Trump : Palestinians, please move out of GAZA. We (USA) will clean it up and make it the Riviera of the middle east. Then you can come back.

[Valcazar]

Did that happen?
Even if it did, you'd have to read the details on that to know what the funding was for.

You know they aren't going to read the details.
The whole point is to pitch things as ridiculously as they can and then to let the broken telephone of social media catapult the propaganda until there are a whole bunch of things everyone "knows" were horrible and woke.

 

[Valcazar]

What has happened is that MAGA has hijacked these votes to push their own agenda by saying "People voted for it".

That's pretty standard in a FPTP system in particular.
The question is always how radical the agenda is despite the actual level of support.

See richaceq's post just after yours, basically saying the slim victory means no one can stop the oligarch takeover their minority faction craves.

 

[seanzo]

Did that happen?
Even if it did, you'd have to read the details on that to know what the funding was for.

Whether it happened or not is completely irrelevant. I asked if such a thing is inherently good and worth spending money on. No need to pontificate on the matter. A simple yes or no will suffice

 

[shack]

welp...I'm not a fortune teller...when did the reports of the USAID came out? LoL.... Let me ask you lefties an honest question.

And I'm not a leftie (or a rightie),

USAID has been around since JFK and their activities were always public. And I'm assuming their budget as well.

 

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

Whether it happened or not is completely irrelevant. I asked if such a thing is inherently good and worth spending money on. No need to pontificate on the matter. A simple yes or no will suffice

If you want an answer to your specific example, then I would need the details, without which I am unable to comment.
If you are unwilling to discuss details, there was no reason for the clarification on a statement that did not require interpretation.

 

[richaceg]

And I'm not a leftie (or a rightie),

USAID has been around since JFK and their activities were always public. And I'm assuming their budget as well.

So if their budget is public, then it shouldn't be an issue if some of those fundings are halted then... i mean it's a funding freeze, until they can come up with a better way to spend the funds...
take your pick.

• $50 million to fund condoms in Gaza
• $1.5 million to advance DEI in Serbia's workplaces
• $70,000 for the production of a DEI musical in Ireland
• $47,000 on a transgender opera in Colombia
• $32,000 for a transgender comic in Peru
• $37 million to the World Health Organization
• $16 million in funding for institutional contractors in gender development offices
• $4 million of funding for the Center for Climate-Positive Development
• $12 million in support services to the Bureau for Resilience, Environment, and Food Security
• $6 million in non-emergency funding for redundant administrative supports for the Center of Excellence
• $3 million in non-emergency funding to provide evaluation services for planning and learning programs
• $600,000 to fund technical assistance for family planning in Latin America

 

[Dutch Oven]

Having the US administer Gaza during its reconstruction is the best solution that's been proposed so far. Ordinary Gazans should welcome it. If the reconstruction happens without major incident it probably improves the chances of Gazan nationhood by about 10,000%.

However, many reasonable nations (and many unreasonable Palestinian professional agitants) would prefer that there be no Palestinian nation at all, so all the possible roadblocks will likely be put up against this happening.

 

[Valcazar]

And I'm not a leftie (or a rightie),

USAID has been around since JFK and their activities were always public. And I'm assuming their budget as well.

Or their audits, even.

Audits | Office of Inspector General

oig.usaid.gov

 

[Valcazar]

So if their budget is public, then it shouldn't be an issue if some of those fundings are halted then... i mean it's a funding freeze, until they can come up with a better way to spend the funds...
take your pick.

• $50 million to fund condoms in Gaza
• $1.5 million to advance DEI in Serbia's workplaces
• $70,000 for the production of a DEI musical in Ireland
• $47,000 on a transgender opera in Colombia
• $32,000 for a transgender comic in Peru
• $37 million to the World Health Organization
• $16 million in funding for institutional contractors in gender development offices
• $4 million of funding for the Center for Climate-Positive Development
• $12 million in support services to the Bureau for Resilience, Environment, and Food Security
• $6 million in non-emergency funding for redundant administrative supports for the Center of Excellence
• $3 million in non-emergency funding to provide evaluation services for planning and learning programs
• $600,000 to fund technical assistance for family planning in Latin America

So you just object to what Congress spent it on, nothing about waste, fraud or abuse at all.
This is just a policy coup where you want the executive to unconstitutionally steal the money Congress has appropriated because you object to Congress controlling the purse strings.
(And, of course, you will let a shadowy oligarch freeze these funds without legal authorization or oversight.)

 

[richaceg]

So you just object to what Congress spent it on, nothing about waste, fraud or abuse at all.
This is just a policy coup where you want the executive to unconstitutionally steal the money Congress has appropriated because you object to Congress controlling the purse strings.
(And, of course, you will let a shadowy oligarch freeze these funds without legal authorization or oversight.)

Obviously Congress could give a shit about which funding is which...specially if most of them benefit in the end...it's only lately that the public has been made aware of where these fundings end up...and you think it's a bad thing letting the public know? you guys are literally having a meltdown over "frozen funding"...LoL

 

[Valcazar]

Obviously Congress could give a shit about which funding is which...specially if most of them benefit in the end...it's only lately that the public has been made aware of where these fundings end up...and you think it's a bad thing letting the public know? you guys are literally having a meltdown over "frozen funding"...LoL

Musk hasn't made the public aware of where these fundings end up, though.
Has he revealed kickbacks or bribes or some other thing where the money isn't going where it was supposed to?

And yes, of course we are objecting to an unconstitutional attack on Congress's appropriations.

(We aren't even talking about all the other shit Musk is pulling.)

I also object to Musk causing people to die by freezing funds, but I am pretty sure that's not something that concerns you.

 

[richaceg]

Musk hasn't made the public aware of where these fundings end up, though.
Has he revealed kickbacks or bribes or some other thing where the money isn't going where it was supposed to?

And yes, of course we are objecting to an unconstitutional attack on Congress's appropriations.

(We aren't even talking about all the other shit Musk is pulling.)

I also object to Musk causing people to die by freezing funds, but I am pretty sure that's not something that concerns you.

SO it's not seizure of funds? YOu need to calm down....their freezing funds until they get all the useless spendings out of the way...those $$$ could've spend better on Hurricane victims or hawaii... Who are dying because of frozen funds from USAID?

 

[nottyboi]

Musk hasn't made the public aware of where these fundings end up, though.
Has he revealed kickbacks or bribes or some other thing where the money isn't going where it was supposed to?

And yes, of course we are objecting to an unconstitutional attack on Congress's appropriations.

(We aren't even talking about all the other shit Musk is pulling.)

I also object to Musk causing people to die by freezing funds, but I am pretty sure that's not something that concerns you.

USAID is a 50B a year machine. Its not possible to fix such a beast by just pruning and trimming. Only option is to blow it up and then see where the fires break out,. Will some people die? Probably. But you are face with a choice of collateral deaths vs the ongoing death and destruction fomented by USAID. There is no benign way to do something like this.

 

[nottyboi]

SO it's not seizure of funds? YOu need to calm down....their freezing funds until they get all the useless spendings out of the way...those $$$ could've spend better on Hurricane victims or hawaii... Who are dying because of frozen funds from USAID?

How would Hawaii get USAID funds, Hawaii would be covered by FEMA

 

[nottyboi]

Musk hasn't made the public aware of where these fundings end up, though.
Has he revealed kickbacks or bribes or some other thing where the money isn't going where it was supposed to?

And yes, of course we are objecting to an unconstitutional attack on Congress's appropriations.

(We aren't even talking about all the other shit Musk is pulling.)

I also object to Musk causing people to die by freezing funds, but I am pretty sure that's not something that concerns you.

Congress approprates the money, it is then up to the executive to ensure expenditure of the money meets the purpose of the appropriation. If the executive feels there is risk or it is outside the mandate of the appropriation they can freeze it.

 

[richaceg]

How would Hawaii get USAID funds, Hawaii would be covered by FEMA

Reduce the budget for USAID and increase FEMA...FEMA benefits americans...USAID is suppose to be international aid abd fraction of that funding goes to useless programs that don't benefit the target.

 

[nottyboi]

Reduce the budget for USAID and increase FEMA...FEMA benefits americans...USAID is suppose to be international aid abd fraction of that funding goes to useless programs that don't benefit the target.

That is the role of congress. I don't think the Prez can do that, but I think its shameful to send billions to Ukraine and Israel while there are serious disasters in the US that lack funds for aid.

 

[richaceg]

That is the role of congress. I don't think the Prez can do that, but I think its shameful to send billions to Ukraine and Israel while there are serious disasters in the US that lack funds for aid.

exactly my point...if there are so much frivolous spendings on USAID funding...it's time to bring it back to congress, reduce the budget, increase FEMA funding and benefit americans before anybody else. But the fact that there's so much resistance over this issue says a lot...

 

[nottyboi]

exactly my point...if there are so much frivolous spendings on USAID funding...it's time to bring it back to congress, reduce the budget, increase FEMA funding and benefit americans before anybody else. But the fact that there's so much resistance over this issue says a lot...

There is suspicion at the pace of it, but if you move slow people will use the courts to stop you. Blow it up like a wrecking team. Before they can file the agency is gone. insane and chaotic, but I don't think there is realistically any other way.

 

[richaceg]

There is suspicion at the pace of it, but if you move slow people will use the courts to stop you. Blow it up like a wrecking team. Before they can file the agency is gone. insane and chaotic, but I don't think there is realistically any other way.

the democrats can't keep up with Trump...he's on to the next....