CIA says COVID possibly originated from Chinese lab leak

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Do you believe that all highly sensitive intelligence assets should be publicly exposed? I may be mistaken but this seems to be some kind of post claiming Canada' and the US are keeping China's actions secret?
Countries do not generally move against their own best interest with respect to declassifying information that may be
detrimental and noxious to their national security.
 
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Thanks for providing such proof.

This is just like Trump's claim that DEI is to blame for the plane crashes because of "common sense".
The helicopter crash resulting in 69 fatalities where as the Covid-19 pandemic resulting in an estimated 7 million deaths and tens of millions of individuals with long Covid and obliterated private and industrial economies into the trillions.

That you would make such a comparison is infinitely egregious !
 

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Reality is based on evidence. China clearly has obstructed investigations (as China does for every international attempt to look into China) but your lab claims don't have evidence.
Especially since China deliberately destroyed evidence and obstructed investigations at the Wuhan market.
 

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lots of wild animals at the Wuhan wet market...
Yes,
Illegally so.
After all, China assured people they had cracked down on that after it was linked to the SARS-CoV-1 outbreak.
Then we got SARS-CoV-2 and China moved to destroy all evidence at the market and interfere with any investigations of it. (Even though people then showed that before the outbreak, there were live wild animals there.)
Weird, isn't it?
It's almost like they are acting guilty about something and covered it up.
 

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Yes,
Illegally so.
After all, China assured people they had cracked down on that after it was linked to the SARS-CoV-1 outbreak.
Then we got SARS-CoV-2 and China moved to destroy all evidence at the market and interfere with any investigations of it. (Even though people then showed that before the outbreak, there were live wild animals there.)
Weird, isn't it?
It's almost like they are acting guilty about something and covered it up.
Nice spin....
 

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In late 2019, personnel at the Wuhan Institute of Virology where research involving infecting human cells with Coronavirus was being done, became infected with Covid-19. This contagion quickly spread across the populous of Wuhan including staff and customers at the Wuhan wet markets. The Wuhan wet market zoonotic transfer theory gave the PRC cover to destroy evidence at the Wuhan Lab and obstruct any international investigation .
No other wet markets across China had animals with Coronavirus and no evidence of zoonotic transfer. Wuhan has the same wild animal supplier as many other cities wet markets but is the only city where a lab exists that was deliberately infecting human cells with Coronavirus.
It is highly probable that the Covid-19 virus came to the Wuhan wet market staff from the lab leak.
The PRC’s destruction of evidence was not limited to the Wuhan Market but also at the Wuhan virology institute.
To this day, physicians in Wuhan that treated patients when the outbreaks where occurring and were kept secret are forbidden to speak about the early days of Covid-19 in that city by punishment of incarceration including death.
 

Valcazar

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In late 2019, personnel at the Wuhan Institute of Virology where research involving infecting human cells with Coronavirus was being done, became infected with Covid-19. This contagion quickly spread across the populous of Wuhan including staff and customers at the Wuhan wet markets. The Wuhan wet market zoonotic transfer theory gave the PRC cover to destroy evidence at the Wuhan Lab and obstruct any international investigation.
And your evidence for this is what?
It's a lovely narrative, and is plausible.
But you are stating as facts things you aren't supporting with evidence.

No other wet markets across China had animals with Coronavirus and no evidence of zoonotic transfer.
Which is entirely consistent with zoonotic transfer.

Wuhan has the same wild animal supplier as many other cities wet markets but is the only city where a lab exists that was deliberately infecting human cells with Coronavirus.
It is highly probable that the Covid-19 virus came to the Wuhan wet market staff from the lab leak.
Highly probable in what way other than "this is the way to make my narrative work"?
 

Valcazar

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Now why would China cover up and destroy evidence at this market??
Because China is not a good actor when it comes to international cooperation in all kinds of ways.
Also, it could well be because China was supposed to have cracked down on live wild animal sales at wet markets since the SARS outbreak in 2003 and did not want evidence possibly linking their failure to do that to the new disease outbreak.
Of course, we don't have a nice memo from the Chinese government explaining their actions.
 
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