CIA says COVID possibly originated from Chinese lab leak

Valcazar

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China is now the world’s number one economy and through their “Silk Road “ undertaking and innovation has built and continues to build global infrastructure in places like Africa, South and Central America and Eastern Eunope as America becomes increasingly isolationist.
Trump’s recent aggressive annexation talk could be a response to China’s growth internationally.
And Trump's moves really have been helping it a lot.

China does not like egregious and bombastic displays of their prowess, is media reticent and doesn’t want negative attention such as Trump continued use of the “ China virus” verbal weaponization to keep them in the spotlight and if Trump starts declassifying documents which might illustrate China’s culpability in the Covid-19 pandemic, not only America might ask for compensation but other countries might follow like a Canadian Poilievre government, with compensation coming in the form of trade concessions.
Oh, so the idea is "after we reveal you were responsible for COVID, you have to give us massive trade concessions"?
So why hasn't he done it yet?
These investigations have been going on for years.

China can attempt to wait Trump out as he has 48 months to go whereas the CPC is continuous. It is Trump’s “ hand waving” that China fears.
Why would they fear hand waving?
That's just Trump saying insults, as he has done for years.
Hand waving implies he has no proof and is just making shit up.
Why would they fear that?

If China believed that zoonotic transfers was the cause of the Covid-19 pandemic than they would not have allowed the wet markets to reopen.
Oh.
You don't know what a wet market is, do you?

The PRC has attempted to destroy all of their evidence on their ill advised, reckless and irresponsible research on infecting human cells with Covid viruses. Chinese physicians were strictly forbidden to discuss anything regarding the pandemic and still are. Perhaps Trump has some of this evidence ?
But you just made a very cogent argument that Trump has no evidence or he would already be using it.

The only evidence destruction we have seen and can completely verify is the destruction of all the evidence at the market.
You seem to have forgotten that.
 

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If China believed that zoonotic transfers was the cause of the Covid-19 pandemic than they would not have allowed the wet markets to reopen. The PRC has attempted to destroy all of their evidence on their ill advised, reckless and irresponsible research on infecting human cells with Covid viruses. Chinese physicians were strictly forbidden to discuss anything
China and their lab have been complicit right from the start.

Anyone thinking any different is detached from reality.

Of course there is the belief that laying the blame at the feet of China is racist...So there's that.
 

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And Trump's moves really have been helping it a lot.



Oh, so the idea is "after we reveal you were responsible for COVID, you have to give us massive trade concessions"?
So why hasn't he done it yet?
These investigations have been going on for years.



Why would they fear hand waving?
That's just Trump saying insults, as he has done for years.
Hand waving implies he has no proof and is just making shit up.
Why would they fear that?



Oh.
You don't know what a wet market is, do you?



But you just made a very cogent argument that Trump has no evidence or he would already be using it.

The only evidence destruction we have seen and can completely verify is the destruction of all the evidence at the market.
You seem to have forgotten that.
Trump has just returned as POTUS for the first time since the pandemic and will use China’s culpability in the Covid-19 pandemic , from evidence suggesting the iatrogenic creation of the virus to denying and cover up the existence and virulence of the virus which allowed for the pandemic which had a heavy unnecessary toll on mankind ( America first ).

Kensington market in Toronto used to have a wet market with pidgeons and rabbits. T@T has live eels. Toronto has no wet markets with dogs, pangolins, bats, wolf dogs, raccoon dogs, animals that may be reservoirs for Coronaviruses in the wild as in Asia, which are ubiquitous in China.
Canada has no institutes like in Wuhan that were deliberately infecting human cells with Coronavirus despite warnings from international scientific community on the dangers above the ordinary that might happen.

Is the distinguished Wuhan Institute of Virology still doing research involving the ill advised infection of human cells with Coronavirus ??
The answer is no they are not. Is China allowing the wet markets to open again ?? The answer is yes they are suggesting a lab leak and no zoonotic transfer risk. I have been eating the wet pussy of a lady that divides her time between Toronto and Hubei who frequents the wet markets ” back home” and any other lady who came back from Dalian who also ate from the wet markets last year during the Lunar New Year. Both ladies have post graduate medical training and both insist that the “lab leak” theory is generally accepted as the cause for the Covid-19 pandemic by the Chinese public, PRC’s obfuscation not withstanding . Trump will ramp up his tariffs on China and use the “China virus” as leverage as much as he can.

Your rhetorical answers belie the roiling of the global stock markets which is occurring right now in real time due to Trump’s tariff system.
 
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Valcazar

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Trump has just returned as POTUS for the first time since the pandemic and will use China’s culpability in the Covid-19 pandemic , from evidence suggesting the iatrogenic creation of the virus to denying and cover up the existence and virulence of the virus which allowed for the pandemic which had a heavy unnecessary toll on mankind ( America first ).
Will "use it" how?

Kensington market in Toronto used to have a wet market with pidgeons and rabbits. T@T has live eels. Toronto has no wet markets with dogs, pangolins, bats, wolf dogs, raccoon dogs, animals that may be reservoirs for Coronaviruses in the wild as in Asia, which are ubiquitous in China.
Wet market doesn't mean "live wild animals".

Is the distinguished Wuhan Institute of Virology still doing research involving the ill advised infection of human cells with Coronavirus ??
The answer is no they are not.
Your proof of that is what, by the way?
Since you have insisted China is covering it all up, how do you know they aren't doing that?

Is China allowing the wet markets to open again ?? The answer is yes
Again, you do know "wet market" doesn't mean "live wild animals", right?

they are suggesting a lab leak and no zoonotic transfer risk.
China's position has been that it is a lab leak by the US for several years now.
That's always what they suggested.

I have been eating the wet pussy of a lady that divides her time between Toronto and Hubei who frequents the wet markets ” back home” and any other lady who came back from Dalian who also ate from the wet markets last year during the Lunar New Year. Both ladies have post graduate medical training and both insist that the “lab leak” theory is generally accepted as the cause for the Covid-19 pandemic by the Chinese public, PRC’s obfuscation not withstanding . Trump will ramp up his tariffs on China and use the “China virus” as leverage as much as he can.
What do you think "china virus" gives him as leverage?
The PRC is going to feel guilty?

Your rhetorical answers belie the roiling of the global stock markets which is occurring right now in real time due to Trump’s tariff system.
Yes, Trump's insane tariff mania is roiling markets.
Trump is not imposing tariffs because he thinks SARS-CoV-2 came from a lab leak in Wuhan.
 

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China and their lab have been complicit right from the start.

Anyone thinking any different is detached from reality.
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Reality is based on evidence. China clearly has obstructed investigations (as China does for every international attempt to look into China) but your lab claims don't have evidence. As discussed here, the third of US intelligence agencies who lean towards a lab leak put it in the 3% to 25% probability with another third of the agencies citing similar probabilities the other way.
 

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Canada has no institutes like in Wuhan that were deliberately infecting human cells with Coronavirus despite warnings from international scientific community on the dangers above the ordinary that might happen.
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Canada's research labs might be surprised by your claim.

All studies of infectious diseases use cells to determine effects and treatments. The only difference you could claim is claimed lax safety procedures but there are also occasional discussion of flaws in Canadian labs too.


And repeated genomic studies from places around the world have found no evidence of intentional manipulation.
 

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Will "use it" how?



Wet market doesn't mean "live wild animals".



Your proof of that is what, by the way?
Since you have insisted China is covering it all up, how do you know they aren't doing that?



Again, you do know "wet market" doesn't mean "live wild animals", right?



China's position has been that it is a lab leak by the US for several years now.
That's always what they suggested.



What do you think "china virus" gives him as leverage?
The PRC is going to feel guilty?



Yes, Trump's insane tariff mania is roiling markets.
Trump is not imposing tariffs because he thinks SARS-CoV-2 came from a lab leak in Wuhan.
Everybody and his mother knows that Covid-19 was a lab leak including the PRC and the Hubei lady who‘s ass I ate.
Trump is an asshole but in terms of China‘s irrefutable culpability in creating the Covid-19 virus that caused a global pandemic in my life time, Trump is my retribution on the “ China virus”
You cannot fix a hole where the rain comes in that stops my mind from going where truth is with your fucked up obfuscation and cover up on what was a lab leak. On this pandemic and the causative agents, I am not at all full of cheer.
 

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Everybody and his mother knows that Covid-19 was a lab leak including the PRC and the Hubei lady who‘s ass I ate.
Trump is an asshole but in terms of China‘s irrefutable culpability in creating the Covid-19 virus that caused a global pandemic in my life time, Trump is my retribution on the “ China virus”
You cannot fix a hole where the rain comes in that stops my mind from going where truth is with your fucked up obfuscation and cover up on what was a lab leak. On this pandemic and the causative agents, I am not at all full of cheer.
the maga wingnuts denied existence of the virus all the way until proof came out that a lab was responsible for it. 🤔
 
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Again, you do know "wet market" doesn't mean "live wild animals", right?

lots of wild animals at the Wuhan wet market...
 
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Canada's research labs might be surprised by your claim.

All studies of infectious diseases use cells to determine effects and treatments. The only difference you could claim is claimed lax safety procedures but there are also occasional discussion of flaws in Canadian labs too.


And repeated genomic studies from places around the world have found no evidence of intentional manipulation.
The two Wuhan scientist, a husband and wife team that were escorted out of Canada in 2019 have their dossiers classified yet shared by CSIS with the FBI and the CIA. The shit can hit the fan if necessary. There is no need for anyone to continue to be obtuse about the obvious.
 

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The two Wuhan scientist, a husband and wife team that were escorted out of Canada in 2019 have their dossiers classified yet shared by CSIS with the FBI and the CIA. The shit can hit the fan if necessary. There is no need for anyone to continue to be obtuse about the obvious.
Do you believe that all highly sensitive intelligence assets should be publicly exposed? I may be mistaken but this seems to be some kind of post claiming Canada' and the US are keeping China's actions secret?
 

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And why do think they've done that?
Because all of our intelligence agencies have documented it in many situations and have stated such with a high level of confidence, just like Western media is openly sidelined in any attempts to investigate stories in China.
 
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