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Quite possibly. He's also an author who popularized the term "Never Again". As such his interpretation of the phrase holds water, terrorist or not. You were discussing what "never again" means just the same as I. There is nothing terrorist about remembering that there was an attempt to eradicate your race. Do you think that he was referring to other genocides or only the Holocaust?
Thanks for providing the post that proves I stated nothing that claims I support his polices. He popularized the term "never again". And pointing out the documented fact that your own race was almost exterminated, is not racist.
 

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You go on to call Meir Kahane “renowned“
If you could be so kind as to refresh my memory. Please provide the quote in which my description of him was renowned, in which thread and the post number. Thanks in advance.
 

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You mean the ICC charges? Again, your moronic claims that we have to listen to the ICC charges against Israel but not the same investigation's charges against hamas.

But thanks for admitting you think the ICC is incompetent.
No, those were Israel's charges. The ICC didn't investigate, they just accepted Israel's claims as if they weren't bullshit.

These are ICC charges.

 

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Israel is a multi-ethnic state where religious rites are enshrined in the Basic Laws and where Muslims and Christians are given full control over their own religious affairs and where Muslims are given control of Judaism's holiest site. Meanwhile hamas and the PA follow Jordanian law which makes it a capital offense to even sell land to Jews and where every faction agrees that a future Palestinian state can not include any Jews.
Israel is an apartheid state committing genocide against its indigenous people.
Clearly you are cheering on genocide and salivating over ethnically cleansing Gaza and colonizing more of Lebanon and Syria.
Every day here you back Israel's war crimes.

 

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Thanks for providing the post that proves I stated nothing that claims I support his polices. He popularized the term "never again". And pointing out the documented fact that your own race was almost exterminated, is not racist.
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Do you think that the renowned Meir Kahane was concerned about other genocides. If so, then he was a true humanitarian and philanthropist. Personally, I think he was only referring to Jews.
Wiki:

"Never again" is a phrase or slogan which is associated with the lessons of the Holocaust and other genocides. The slogan was used by liberated prisoners at Buchenwald concentration camp to denounce fascism. It was popularized by Jewish Defense League founder Meir Kahane in his 1971 book, Never Again! A Program for Survival.

The exact meaning of the phrase is debated, including whether it should be used as a particularistic command to avert a second Holocaust of Jews or whether it is a universalist injunction to prevent all forms of genocide.

The phrase is widely used by politicians and writers and it also appears on many Holocaust memorials. It has also been appropriated as a political slogan for other causes, from commemoration of the 1976 Argentine coup, the promotion of gun control or abortion rights, and as an injunction to war on terror after the September 11 attacks.


There absolutely zero dispute or debate when it is in reference to the Holocaust. The debate materializes only when people try to apply it to other events. It's kind of like how "apartheid" has been misappropriated and redefined for the sole purpose of demonizing Israel

It's an amazing coincidence, that in both of those cases, the misappropriation of a term/phrase involves Israel and both in a negative way. It must be the occupation that makes definitions change before our very eyes.
You called Meir Kahane 'renowned', despite him being listed as a terrorist in Canada and a leader of the JDL, who are listed as terrorists in the US.
The Kahane definition is as you stated, 'never let it happen to the Jewish people again', which we see as Israel commits their own genocide.

You back a terrorist movement.
 

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Thanks for providing the post that proves I stated nothing that claims I support his polices. He popularized the term "never again". And pointing out the documented fact that your own race was almost exterminated, is not racist.
Holocaust was not only about jews, millions of ohers died in the camps. So nice of you to forget that.
 
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I give a shit bout not liking terrorism as was perpetrated on Oct.7.

Israel has been protecting themselves since their inception. No soldiers from other countries have set boots on the ground defending Israel.

And before you go whining about the US and blah, blah, blah, part of how Israel has protected itself, is by fostering a good relationship with the US and making themselves the US' greatest ally in the region. Aside from physical force to protect themselves, they've also used their brains. Don't discount that.
Oh thats a load of crap, there have been UN peacekeepers defending Israel, some of whom have been murdered by Israel, inlcuding a Canadian UN peacekeeper. More Shit from Shack. Maybe we should call you SHITSHACK. has a nice ring to it in addition to being accurate
 
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You called Meir Kahane 'renowned', despite him being listed as a terrorist in Canada and a leader of the JDL, who are listed as terrorists in the US.
The Kahane definition is as you stated, 'never let it happen to the Jewish people again', which we see as Israel commits their own genocide.

You back a terrorist movement.
But he is renowned in many circles. You can't deny that.
 

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What makes Islam the religion that must rule the region? You keep arguing it is unacceptable that Jews walk around outside at sites that are holy to both Islam and Judaism so you explanation as to why Islam should get preferential treatment.
Who said Islam must rule the region? The only fact is that there is a majority of Islam in the region.
 

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So one jew is the only person you'll listen to?

BTW.
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Meanwhile all of the pro-Israel lobby groups together are at 3.5 million in 2024.

Big Oil, Big Pharma, Insurance and medical care... No, according to Franky, it must be the Jews.
Where do the Jewish lobbies lie on the list of ethnic and religious lobbies? Business lobbies are realtively normal, just about money,
 

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No soldiers from other countries have set boots on the ground defending Israel.
Oh thats a load of crap, there have been UN peacekeepers defending Israel, some of whom have been murdered by Israel, inlcuding a Canadian UN peacekeeper. More Shit from Shack. Maybe we should call you SHITSHACK. has a nice ring to it in addition to being accurate
When did the UN become a country? LOLOLOLOL

Call me what you want, your post is a fail. Israel has defended itself. End of story.

But you definitely sound triggered. It's almost like you're letting me get under your skin. LOL

p.s. And if they are peacekeepers, they are not fighting to help Israel win a war. They are neutral. Your fail is even worse than I previously thought. :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:
 
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shack said:
No soldiers from other countries have set boots on the ground defending Israel.

When did the UN become a country? LOLOLOLOL

Call me what you want, your post is a fail. Israel has defended itself. End of story.

But you definitely sound triggered. It's almost like you're letting me get under your skin. LOL

p.s. And if they are peacekeepers, they are not fighting to help Israel win a war. They are neutral. Your fail is even worse than I previously thought. :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:
Where do you think those solders came from? Stateless people? Without the US supply chain we would not be talking about Israel today. The US has defended Israel, without the USA, Israel will be GONE IN 60 SECONDS.
 

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Where do you think those solders came from? Stateless people?
Fail. They are not acting on behalf of their country. Peacekeepers are acting on behalf of and are representatives of the UN, a neutral entity. My point of Israel not needing soldiers to fight their wars holds.
Without the US supply chain we would not be talking about Israel today. The US has defended Israel, without the USA, Israel will be GONE IN 60 SECONDS.
So you regret that Israel has not been obliterated? Very nice. I thought that you were against genocide.

Regardless this is another fail for you. That point has nothing to do with my point being no countries have sent soldiers to fight on Israel's behalf.

We already hear the idiotic claims that Israel controls the US blah, blah, blah. This is another version. The US helps because Israel is the most strategic ally the US has in the region and Israel helps to protect American assets. Allies help each other, in case you never heard.

Are Israel and the US not allowed to be allies and help each other? Is that a crime?

Oh, wait. Israel means Jews, so in you your mind, the US helping a country of Jews is immoral. It's not right or it's unfair for the US to help them. You've made that point many times that it's not proper for the US to help Israel. But the real question is WHY, in your mind, is it immoral/wrong for the US to help Israel? The only logical answer is that it is immoral to you because you hate Jews.

You should find another topic to debate, You're not doing well on this one.
 

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Fail. They are not acting on behalf of their country. Peacekeepers are acting on behalf of and are representatives of the UN, a neutral entity. My point of Israel not needing soldiers to fight their wars holds.
So you regret that Israel has not been obliterated? Very nice. I thought that you were against genocide.

Regardless this is another fail for you. That point has nothing to do with my point being no countries have sent soldiers to fight on Israel's behalf.

We already hear the idiotic claims that Israel controls the US blah, blah, blah. This is another version. The US helps because Israel is the most strategic ally the US has in the region and Israel helps to protect American assets. Allies help each other, in case you never heard.

Are Israel and the US not allowed to be allies and help each other? Is that a crime?

Oh, wait. Israel means Jews, so in you your mind, the US helping a country of Jews is immoral. It's not right or it's unfair for the US to help them. You've made that point many times that it's not proper for the US to help Israel. But the real question is WHY, in your mind, is it immoral/wrong for the US to help Israel? The only logical answer is that it is immoral to you because you hate Jews.

You should find another topic to debate, You're not doing well on this one.
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