That's why there are those complex and voluminous arbitration clauses in NAFTA, right?
So the professionals can keep talking and iron out the details.
Now tell me how Trump suddenly threatening 25% tariffs one day fits into what I just said.
Tariffs on Canada delayed for 30 days after talk between Trudeau and Trump. Trump folds.
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So the professionals can keep talking and iron out the details.
Now tell me how Trump suddenly threatening 25% tariffs one day fits into what I just said.
Then why was Canada also threatened with the same tariffs?
It's not obvious to me that this was part of the landscape on this.
This was just Trump being dumb, senile and hyper aggressive.
If this was all done because Trump hated Justin, why were the same threats made against the EU?
So you are saying Trump is continuing Canada's unfair Trade advantage?I suppose I look at trade agreements as one long, continuing process.
I've been clear here that Canada doesn't seem to be the big target. I still think Mexico was the big target this go- round.
And oh yeah, Trump and Trudeau hate each other so there's that.
Canada isn't a big target but he makes the same 25% Tariff threat to us?
He didn't think we would get this prepared. That's just the truth. He folded.
BS
Personal issues have nothing to do with running a country. Trump tried to bully us and got backed-down.
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Is that why the Canadian leadership were scrambling last minute? Mexico leadership were all of a sudden interested in securing the borders? Trump is a troll and he lights everyone's ass on fire and get them working...
We've been telling them for almost a month that if they put Tariffs on us, we will do the same to them.
They didn't put tariffs on us. Trump folds.
No wonder Justing agreed 10k personnel and 1.3B budget for the border? He finally agreed with Daddy Trump...
That border thing with Canada was a bluff all along. Adding 1.3 billion to block an extra 5k people from going across one way or the other is a pure loss of money.
This negotiation with Canada and Trump is complete bull shit. Trump wants to prove who's the boss. Like any fragile egomaniac does.
The deficit the US is having on import/export with Canada is beneficial for the US and a win/win situation with Canada. They end up making more money than exploiting their resources.
People (like idiot Trump) think in business there is always a winner and a loser. That's so fucking wrong. In a good business, all your transactions that are win/win will make you succeed. And all those that are winners/losers will give you headaches and trouble.
The exact deal offer to Trump from December.
Why does it take him almost 3 months to agree to the initial proposal?
When a country acts, the other will react.
Negotiations, agreements and concessions are all part of diplomacy.
Trump wanted to send a message to his base that he is "securing the border".
The truth is there is nothing to secure on the Canadian side.
2lbs of Fentanyl in 2024.
So Canada agreed to help with the optics by hiring a "Fentanyl Czar" and "beefing up border security".
The truth is that the CBSA already intercepts and removes both illegal immigrants and drugs at the border which is why we have such low numbers.
So there is nothing much Canada has to realistically do than to throw a little money and personnel at it and do what they have already been doing.
Trump initiated tariffs because he complained about trade deficits (that does exist) and problems at the border that did not exist.
Within 48 hours he however backed down to accept the plan Canada has been talking about for about 3 months?
So he showed his hand too early and folded.
This isn't winning anything.
Winning would have meant adoption of Trump style immigration policies, mass deportations and approvals for US businesses to freely operate in Canada. (this is based on his complaints against Canada).
That didn't happen.
T-Mobile is a global brand started by Deutsche Telecom. DT currently has a majority stake in T-Mobile.
When you live in the U.S. all your life, you know stuff.
I dont know how that takes away from what I said.
T-Mobile, ATT and Verizon are a monopoly in the US just like Rogers, Bell and Telus are in Canada.
Is that what some of the nits on the board are taking?
If you look at how the stock market tanked yesterday morning, you understand why Trump folded like a cheap suit. For those who think he didn't....what did he actually get? The $1.3B was announced last year (well, December). The only new thing was a new fentanyl drug czar. Trump didn't get to annex us. He didn't get any concessions on allowing US banks up here, or increase the amount of American agriculture. So....let's call a spade a spade. Trump blinked. He knew the disastrous effect the tariffs would have on the US economy, and he made the sensible decision to back down. Of course @mitchell76 and his ilk need to pretend that Trump won. Hell, we should all pretend he did. That would probably stop future bullshit....
But, I'll say this: Trudeau was great. He should still GTFO Ottawa ASAP, but he handled theses negotiations expertly. He was actually a unifier for the country.
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