Do Genocide & Holocaust Studies Have Any Future Now That Israel is Committing Genocide

[shack]

I have repeatedly said Hamas has committed some terrorist acts and Israel has committed even more, along with apartheid, illegal occupation and genocide.
Take them all to the ICJ and ICC and let them charge both sides for all war crimes.

Yet you steadfastly refuse to say that you agree with HRW;s report.
October 7 Crimes Against Humanity, War Crimes by Hamas-led Groups | Human Rights Watch
Your words are hollow.

If you want to join the discussion you should start from the beginning, where shack declared he backed the Kahanist views on Palestinians and never again.
Then tell me that you either agree with shack's terrorist philosophy or you are willing to call him out.

Completely untrue. I said that he popularized the term "never again". Stop putting words in my mouth.

Are you a Kahanist as well?

What I am is a decent human being.

 

[Frankfooter]

Yet you steadfastly refuse to say that you agree with HRW;s report.
October 7 Crimes Against Humanity, War Crimes by Hamas-led Groups | Human Rights Watch
Your words are hollow.

You continue to lie, how many times have I said take all HRW reports, including that one, to the ICC and ICJ and let them charge people as warranted?

Completely untrue. I said that he popularized the term "never again". Stop putting words in my mouth.

What you said is that you agree with the philosophy of Meir Kahane, a recognized terrorist.

Quite possibly. He's also an author who popularized the term "Never Again". As such his interpretation of the phrase holds water, terrorist or not.

What I am is a decent human being.

You really believe that?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1880990095324397974

 

[shack]

You continue to lie, how many times have I said take all HRW reports, including that one, to the ICC and ICJ and let them charge people as warranted?

That is a false accusation. I did not lie.

I have repeatedly pointed out how you have refused to acknowledge this one particular report from HRW, in and of itself. I predict that you will still refuse to accept this report at face value. Your double talk deflections have been exposed as meaningless.

Do you accept the findings of this report at face value? Yes or no.

October 7 Crimes Against Humanity, War Crimes by Hamas-led Groups | Human Rights Watch

• Hamas-led armed groups committed numerous war crimes and crimes against humanity against civilians during the October 7 assault on southern Israel.
• Palestinian fighters committed summary killings, hostage-taking and other war crimes, and the crimes against humanity of murder and wrongful imprisonment.

 

[basketcase]

This has not happened and Hamas has declared they would settle for the two state solution.

As a temporary measure, never as a permanent peace and they have refused to be involved in any negotiations for a permanent peace.

Yes, milk it while you run your own holocaust.

You are fucking insane bro. Do you really think I'm in charge of everything (other than my self-appointed role of shitting all over your racism)?

 

[basketcase]

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Take them all to the ICJ and ICC and let them charge both sides for all war crimes.
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Your usual bullshit as you keep telling us we can't hold hamas accountable unless the ICC rules (or even after the ICC ruled) but we need to accept any accusation against Israel simply because some rando made an accusation in a tweet.


And you're the one using Kahane's quote, not me.

 

[basketcase]

You continue to lie, ...

You're right and Shack is wrong., You have commented on that HRW report by telling us it was all wrong.


You have also argued that the ICC, ICJ, UN, HRW, and Amnesty are wrong for saying that Hamas needed to release their hostages "immediately and unconditionally" more than a year ago.

 

[Klatuu]

This is a prime example of how the those officials tasked with with guarding the memory of the Holocaust have become grotesque monsters unworthy of the role

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1885755509216866552

 

[Frankfooter]

As a temporary measure, never as a permanent peace and they have refused to be involved in any negotiations for a permanent peace.


You are fucking insane bro. Do you really think I'm in charge of everything (other than my self-appointed role of shitting all over your racism)?

You back apartheid and genocide.
Nobody can possibly be more racist than that.

Listening to your bullshit views about Palestinians is just one trope after another.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1886208866414649722

 

[Frankfooter]

You're right and Shack is wrong., You have commented on that HRW report by telling us it was all wrong.


You have also argued that the ICC, ICJ, UN, HRW, and Amnesty are wrong for saying that Hamas needed to release their hostages "immediately and unconditionally" more than a year ago.

Total mischaracterization.

That one HRW report uses claims Israel gave HRW, not HRW investigations. HRW did their duty and wrote them up and sent them to the ICC and UN. They should be investigated so that we can find out who made up the lies about rape and gave them to HRW.

Then we can investigate ZAKA and the two IDF 'journalists' who wrote for the NYT before they were fired.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1760472582279590116

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1766999902427443699

As the Israeli prosecutor said there are no victims of rape.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1875818617377329426

 

[basketcase]

You back apartheid and genocide.
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Why do you insist on lying so obsessively? Are you going to accuse me of personally committing genocide again?

 

[whynot888]

Why do you insist on lying so obsessively? Are you going to accuse me of personally committing genocide again?

He will sentence anyone for genocide if you don't agree with him. How ironic since he claims he is all about human rights lol.

 

[basketcase]

Total mischaracterization.
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Their exact words are "mischaracterization? Fuck that's dumb.

ICC
I again reiterate my call for the immediate release of all hostages taken from Israel and for their safe return to their families. This is a fundamental requirement of international humanitarian law.

ICJ
In its Orders of 26 January 2024 and 28 March 2024, the Court expressed its grave concern over the fate of the hostages abducted during the attack in Israel on 7 October 2023 and held since then by Hamas and other armed groups, and called for their immediate and unconditional release. The Court finds it deeply troubling that many of these hostages remain in captivity and reiterates its call for their immediate and unconditional release.

UNSC
Calls for the immediate and unconditional release of all hostages held by Hamas and other groups, especially children, as well as ensuring immediate humanitarian access;

HRW
Hamas, Islamic Jihad: Holding Hostages is a War Crime

Amnesty
Israel/ OPT: Hamas and other armed groups must immediately release civilians held hostage in Gaza



And the ICC's view on the Hamas rape you deny.

The Chamber further found that, while they were held captive in Gaza, some hostages, predominantly women, were subjected to sexual and gender based violence, including forced penetration, forced nudity, and humiliating and degrading treatment. On the basis of the material presented, the Chamber found reasonable grounds to believe that the crimes of torture as a crime against humanity and war crime, rape and other forms of sexual violence as crimes against humanity and war crimes, cruel treatment as a war crime, and outrages upon personal dignity as a war crime were committed against these persons during the relevant period.

 

[Frankfooter]

Why do you insist on lying so obsessively? Are you going to accuse me of personally committing genocide again?

Denial didn't work at Nuremburg.
You've seen the reports, the video evidence, the stats and you know exactly what is going on.
Not once have you said even one single act during the genocide is wrong.
You have instead attacked anyone who dares demand peace and the application of human rights and the law.

You have no moral limits of what you won't back zionists doing.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1886490158016373201

 

[Frankfooter]

Their exact words are "mischaracterization? Fuck that's dumb.

ICC
I again reiterate my call for the immediate release of all hostages taken from Israel and for their safe return to their families. This is a fundamental requirement of international humanitarian law.

ICJ
In its Orders of 26 January 2024 and 28 March 2024, the Court expressed its grave concern over the fate of the hostages abducted during the attack in Israel on 7 October 2023 and held since then by Hamas and other armed groups, and called for their immediate and unconditional release. The Court finds it deeply troubling that many of these hostages remain in captivity and reiterates its call for their immediate and unconditional release.

UNSC
Calls for the immediate and unconditional release of all hostages held by Hamas and other groups, especially children, as well as ensuring immediate humanitarian access;

HRW
Hamas, Islamic Jihad: Holding Hostages is a War Crime

Amnesty
Israel/ OPT: Hamas and other armed groups must immediately release civilians held hostage in Gaza



And the ICC's view on the Hamas rape you deny.

The Chamber further found that, while they were held captive in Gaza, some hostages, predominantly women, were subjected to sexual and gender based violence, including forced penetration, forced nudity, and humiliating and degrading treatment. On the basis of the material presented, the Chamber found reasonable grounds to believe that the crimes of torture as a crime against humanity and war crime, rape and other forms of sexual violence as crimes against humanity and war crimes, cruel treatment as a war crime, and outrages upon personal dignity as a war crime were committed against these persons during the relevant period.

Before we go any further.

You are cherry picking bits you agree with or do you agree with the ICC, ICJ, HRW and Amnesty.
Its super easy to prove.

I support taking all of those reports, along with all other reports and backing all charges by the ICJ, ICC and UN resolutions.
Will you support those charges or are you bullshitting again?

Do you back all charges and findings of all reports or not?

 

[shack]

Do you back all charges and findings of all reports or not?

Answer your own questions.

Do you back the contents of this report? You continually are afraid to give a direct answer. You cornered yourself. Do you agree with this report? A yes or a no will suffice.
October 7 Crimes Against Humanity, War Crimes by Hamas-led Groups | Human Rights Watch

Hamas-led armed groups committed numerous war crimes and crimes against humanity against civilians during the October 7 assault on southern Israel.
Palestinian fighters committed summary killings, hostage-taking and other war crimes, and the crimes against humanity of murder and wrongful imprisonment.

 

[Frankfooter]

Answer your own questions.

Do you back the contents of this report? You continually are afraid to give a direct answer. You cornered yourself. Do you agree with this report? A yes or a no will suffice.
October 7 Crimes Against Humanity, War Crimes by Hamas-led Groups | Human Rights Watch

Hamas-led armed groups committed numerous war crimes and crimes against humanity against civilians during the October 7 assault on southern Israel.
Palestinian fighters committed summary killings, hostage-taking and other war crimes, and the crimes against humanity of murder and wrongful imprisonment.

HRW did their job, they took what Israel promised was real evidence, wrote a report and submitted it to the authorities.
The fact that all of Israel's allegations fell apart afterwards means that this report should be taken to the ICC and Israel should be investigated over whether they lied to HRW.

HRW did what they were supposed to do, report what they were told. Israel did what they always do, lie.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1886568946410905716

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1886342756898869665

 

[Klatuu]

Answer your own questions.

Do you back the contents of this report? You continually are afraid to give a direct answer. You cornered yourself. Do you agree with this report? A yes or a no will suffice.
October 7 Crimes Against Humanity, War Crimes by Hamas-led Groups | Human Rights Watch

Hamas-led armed groups committed numerous war crimes and crimes against humanity against civilians during the October 7 assault on southern Israel.
Palestinian fighters committed summary killings, hostage-taking and other war crimes, and the crimes against humanity of murder and wrongful imprisonment.

Deflection

 

[shack]

HRW did their job, they took what Israel promised was real evidence, wrote a report and submitted it to the authorities.
The fact that all of Israel's allegations fell apart afterwards means that this report should be taken to the ICC and Israel should be investigated over whether they lied to HRW.

You refuse to accept that HRW report at the same time that you say we must accept all those reports.

This is why you are not respected.

 

[Frankfooter]

You refuse to accept that HRW report at the same time that you say we must accept all those reports.

This is why you are not respected.

Wrong again.
I accept the HRW report, they did what they were supposed to do, record evidence.
The problem with that report is that Israel lied and just made shit up to demonize Palestinians.
That's on Israel, not HRW.

Arguing with you really is like this.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1886707777239687523

 

[Klatuu]

Israel Brand is Rock Bottom

Only stone cold morons champion POS Nation. Everyone else sees it for what it is….a nation of freeloaders that always have their hands out, commit incessant theft, ethnic cleansing and genocide. They represent nothing that anyone admires. A nation of blowhards that constantly needs to be bailed out.

Rock bottom: Israel ranks last on Nation Brand Index, perceived as 'chaotic'

The Nation Brand Index ranked Israel last among 50 countries, citing perceptions of chaos and instability; Despite strong objective metrics, global views associate Israel with conflict and risk, highlighting a growing disconnect with younger generations and economic challenges abroad

www.ynetnews.com