"Iran cannot have nukes" Trump warns

Frankfooter

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You mean other than constantly making excuses for them? But you could answer some questions to clarify if you dare.

1) Do you think Iran's current nuclear program with 15,000 centrifuges and enriching to 60% is justified for any civilian purposes?
2) Do you think Iran getting nukes is good for the world, even though you admitted that Iran is run by religious dictators?
1) Yes, there are civilian uses for highly enriched uranium.
2) Israel has been making this claim for 30-40 years and there is still no evidence its going to happen. If you don't want Iran to produce nukes then back renewing the JCPOA and letting the IAEA inspect Iran to make sure they don't build nukes. And then get Israel to join the NPT and stop being one of 3 rogue nuclear states.
 

Frankfooter

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Yes, a location where Iranian terror generals were transferring weapons to a terror group and violating those UN rulings you like.

Iran has been calling for and backing the destruction of Israel since 1979 but you only complain that Israel tries to stop the terrorists.
Yes, an embassy.
You support firing missiles at embassies.

Holy shit, now you are totally against diplomacy.
 

nottyboi

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What a surprise. You just had your argument completely destroyed so you desperately try to change the goalposts.

Arabs (as they were called at the time) who chose to stay and live in peace received exactly what they were promised and today, Arab Israelis (according to recent polling) feel connected to their Israeli identity and want to remain Israeli, even when the possibility of moving to a country like Canada was included in the questions.

And yes, Arab forces in 1949 actually ethnically cleansed every Jews they could including the indigenous Jewish communities in Hebron and East Jerusalem, just like Arab states chased out their indigenous Jewish populations and confiscating their wealth and property.

But you should actually look at the timing of the waves of Palestinian refugees because the vast majority happened when Arab forces were on the offensive.
No I said your arguement was not relevant. You cannot blame civilians for fleeing instability, Only a complete psycho would hold that against them. Passing legislation to seize property held by a certain ethnicity is APARTHEID. You did not even TRY To deny this happened because you know its true, Its no different then the when the NAZIs seized the property of a murdered jew and gave it to Victoria Freelands Grandfather to run. SAME THING I guess then you must be ok with what the NAZIs did as its the SAME THING. You are defending the exact same philosophy that was behind the holocaust. Congrats!!! 👌👍🤷‍♂️
 
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wigglee

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Ok so Obama was involved in more wars and deported more people than Trump.

Thanks for clearing that up and agreeing he was nastier than Trump and the usual narrative coming from the left about Trump being so bad is just biased and uninformed hatred.

Thanks
Keep claiming that steaming mound of shit is a bowl of pearls, man... it's hilarious! DEI hires are bad but RFKjr and Hegseth are good....LOL. Sit back and watch 4 years of balls to the wall insanity as democracy and decency dies.
 
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wigglee

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Cancelled $50 million payment...that's true. And you get triggered so easily proving my point above.

Trump appears to have made the accusation to frame Gaza as an example of wasteful US foreign aid spending. His administration has justified its suspension of nearly all foreign aid by highlighting examples of “egregious funding”, such as contraception and reproductive healthcare programmes.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/1/30/is-the-us-sending-50m-in-condoms-to-gaza-as-trump-claims


What he means not what he says. You should understand that and lower your blood pressure.
If he wasn't a moron he would clearly say what he means. It's called communication and no condoms were bought for Hamas. He is an insane liar.
 
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Trump has isolationist tendencies but instinctively strikes out at whoever challenges him. That's far from being a pacifist.
That's a very emotionally driven biased and subjective response.

Now compare them using actual facts and statistics and you'll quickly realize what kind of a monster Obama was even though he hid it well and fooled people like you.
 

Skoob

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Keep claiming that steaming mound of shit is a bowl of pearls, man... it's hilarious! DEI hires are bad but RFKjr and Hegseth are good....LOL. Sit back and watch 4 years of balls to the wall insanity as democracy and decency dies.
There is only one Nostradumbass on this board and that would be Squeezer...how DARE you try and move in on his hustle!

However I must let you know that you were accepted on this board as a DEI member.
 

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If he wasn't a moron he would clearly say what he means. It's called communication and no condoms were bought for Hamas. He is an insane liar.
Everyone with a brain knows what he means...the ones that don't are liberals. They just get triggered.
btw you have been proving that over and over.
 

Valcazar

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Honourable men say what they mean. Today he said his people cancelled a 50 million dollar payment meant to supply condoms to Hamas ! Do you swallow that lie too? LOL !!!
Weren't you listening?
It doesn't matter that he said nonsense, you have to understand what the 50 million condoms mean.
 

Valcazar

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So that's where you're starting from.
And then you come up with things to justify your bias.

Confirm Bias at its best.
Will you admit you are starting from "Obama is a bad person" and everything you say about Obama can be dismissed as "Confirm Bias at its best" ?
 

Valcazar

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I think the period of 1961-75 included a few more Presidents .
Actually, I don't think it did.
It depends a lot on how you are defining "the US is at war".
(This was part of my point in extending the discussion with Skoob, since he is so invested in his silly gotcha.)

Depending on what you define the US military involvement as, you can make an argument that none of Kennedy/Johnson/Nixon meet the criteria.
Or you can use a different metric and then they all do.
I think a pretty fair metric puts Johnson in the club, but leaves Kennedy and Nixon out.

Obviously, it isn't straightforward.

Trump has isolationist tendencies but instinctively strikes out at whoever challenges him. That's far from being a pacifist.
You forget that his point is just "Black man Bad".
Therefore in comparison, Trump is Good.
 

Valcazar

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If he wasn't a moron he would clearly say what he means. It's called communication and no condoms were bought for Hamas. He is an insane liar.
No, no, aren't you reading?
It is a "frame".

By lying about everything, Trump is revealing greater truths.

By lying, "His administration has justified its suspension of nearly all foreign aid by highlighting examples of “egregious funding”, such as contraception and reproductive healthcare programmes."

See?
If you lie to get what you want, then you are being good and smart because people deserve to be lied to so that Trump and his rich buddies can get their way.
Like Skoob, they are happy to be lied to, because it means Trump secretly loves them.

Getting the people to believe absurdities is a sign of real leadership.
And you know what they say about people who can make you believe absurdities...
 

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No I said your arguement was not relevant....
You posted asking how Israel treated the Arabs who chose to stay after the Partition Plan was approved in an attempt to portray Israel as disgusting. I answered in stating the fact that the ones who chose to stay became full citizens just as Israel promised, fully engaged in all aspects of Israeli society, and according to polling, their descendants feel connected to Israel and want to remain Israeli.

And no, passing legislation to take abandoned property from people who didn't want to be part of your country sounds harsh but it is the reality of the two way population transfer that happened. The difference is Israel took the property to support the integration of 800,000 Arab Jews chased from their homes who's only crime was being Jewish while the Arab states confiscated property of Jews and then kept the 750,000 Arab refugees locked in camps without rights.

Life is harsh but you don't see discussion about the 15 million refugees from the partition of India and their lost property. You don't hear the whining that the 1.6 million Greek and 400,000 Turks being forcibly transferred. Same with the Romanian/Bulgarians transfer, Turkey forcing the partition of Cyprus, of the transfers of Germans, Poles, etc. after WWII. It's only because Arab leaders took advantage to propagate the conflict by refusing to integrate the 750,000 refugees from the war they declared.
 
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