Donald Trumps Approval Ratings Soar

WyattEarp

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Dairy products , eggs, poultry, maple syrup i believe pork and likely some others are produced according to quotas

Pros: as mentioned a steady supply of quality products is available, ensures family farms remain economically viable

Cons: Canadian pay way more for these food items than Americans do ex exchange rate impacts,
over production is disposed of or diverted to some other low margin use (down the drain or into dog food I am guessing, storage for the maple syrup ) .
It is a barrier to US competitors - not free trade

The Quebec dairy farms sway a really disproportion amount of political influence on this issue
I do not know for sure, however I suspect there are some exceptionally rich Quebec framers .
Thus far they have managed to keep supply management intact in trade agreements
It is always a contentious issue , I believe the UK walked away from a trade deal for a while because of supply management
Quebec will fight tooth and nail against any changes to supply management

I know the Dairy framers in Wisconsin have called out Canada's supply management system and have Trumps ear, maple syrup producers in Vermont are none too happy about it either

It is likely a tiny fraction of rounding error wrt to US GDP , however it is not at all free trade and is an irritant for the US trade negotiators
I suspect Trump will want a win on this issue.
Agriculture is a political nightmare almost everywhere. You don't have to like RFK Jr. to know he talks some sense about U.S. agriculture and processed foods.
 

danmand

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Which countries do you believe practise Marxism?
None and almost all.

What I meant was, that Marx have had profound impact on how governments operate, to the extent that it should be compulsory reading before anybody posts opinions on how governments should operate.

That is of course only my opinion.
 
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JohnLarue

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A frivolous post yet you have a Congressman pushing it and a President asking about it, with a smile but that is how Canada becoming the 51st state started, it started as a joke and then he decided to try and make it happen through an economic war.
do not fool yourself , there has always been a simulated take over plan of Canada kicking around Washington, a military and an economic plan
Electing a divisive exceptionally stupid Prime Minister just made the plan a whole lot more viable

Additionally, I find it interesting that you now appear to support tariffs, making a case for them while also implying expertise in economics.
Too funny, how's that modern monetary theory panning out for you.
Oops, you mean you can not borrow in perpetuity ?

The tariffs are the stick to get a secure boarder. And the military spending Canada had committed to
Trudeaus open boarder policy was so destructive and yet it was so preventable had he understood his responsibilities were not aligned with his ideology
 

shack

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I'm not sure what your point is.
You made this statement:

WyattEarp said:
Sorry, sometimes I don't make the distinction between Marx and Marxism.

Marx had important things to say.
Marxism in practice has not really worked in practice.

My point is how can you make a blanket statement like that based on only 2 countries practising it?
 

WyattEarp

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A frivolous post yet you have a Congressman pushing it and a President asking about it, with a smile but that is how Canada becoming the 51st state started, it started as a joke and then he decided to try and make it happen through an economic war.

Additionally, I find it interesting that you now appear to support tariffs, making a case for them while also implying expertise in economics.
I always supported tariffs under Republican and Democratic administration alike. The U.S. has probably helped perpetuate a very harmful long-term path for the German and Chinese economies.

I don't know if I consider myself an expert in economics. I read a lot of impartial economists. My understanding of economics appears to be greater than most members. You can usually tell when someone is repeating something they just heard or whether they truly have a lot of knowledge.

You're obviously fishing around for some way to put me down without the need to have command of the subject.

PS- Don't sweat a constitutional amendment for a third-term. It's solely for entertainment.
 

shack

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None and almost all.

What I meant was, that Marx have had profound impact on how governments operate, to the extent that it should be compulsory reading before anybody posts opinions on how governments should operate.

That is of course only my opinion.
Fair enough. I was challenging Earp's assertion that Marxism has been shown to not work.

WyattEarp said:
Sorry, sometimes I don't make the distinction between Marx and Marxism.

Marx had important things to say. Marxism in practice has not really worked in practice.
 

JuanGoodman

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What I meant was, that Marx have had profound impact on how governments operate, to the extent that it should be compulsory reading before anybody posts opinions on how governments should operate.
you should read "Animal Farm" while you are at it !
 

JuanGoodman

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So you are agreeing that when people assert that trump's gov't is corrupt, they are correct.

Whataboutism is not your friend.
most grown up people know that ALL governments are corrupt

the problem with lefties is that they believe that only Conservative governments are corrupt
 
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JohnLarue

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There is a reason that they have 3 different names. It's because they are different. As such they are distinguishable.
rebranding
a pig with lip stick is still a pig,
They all distill down to government wealth redistribution, loss of freedoms and big government
And all are failures and the sharing of misery
just count the dead bodies curtesy of the peoples own governments
 

JohnLarue

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most grown up people know that ALL governments are corrupt

the problem with lefties is that they believe that only Conservative governments are corrupt

really, you would think the last nine years would have been enlightening , but no
it is something much deeper / darker with the left than just pretending they are appalled by corruption
 

TauCeti

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So you are agreeing that when people assert that trump's gov't is corrupt, they are correct.

Whataboutism is not your friend.
I am asserting that every single government since the first ape walked upright has had some form of corruption.

To assert that Biden’s government had no corruption is total absurdity.

I agree whataboutism is no ones friend.

So, are you asserting that Biden’s government was 100% corruption free?
 
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Frankfooter

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rebranding
a pig with lip stick is still a pig,
They all distill down to government wealth redistribution, loss of freedoms and big government
And all are failures and the sharing of misery
just count the dead bodies curtesy of the peoples own governments
Are you arguing loss of freedom is ok if the rich get tax breaks?
 
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