Donald Trumps Approval Ratings Soar

Shaquille Oatmeal

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Look at the thread on his deportation.
The fact he used a military plane is being cited as "proof" that he is accomplishing it.

He wanted the show, and the show worked for the people who the show was meant to convince.
Also Dr. Phil and Tom Homan are showing up for these MAGA movies.
And this is being streamed on MeritTV which is Dr. Phil's TV network.
In which world does a TV personality and the head of the police division go around with police officers doing arrests?
You couldn't make this up lmao.
 

WyattEarp

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Yet the common man in cities where these migrants have moved in, in huge numbers voted blue.
Someone posted a video of NYC whose hospitals were overwhelmed.
Yet they voted Dem.
And the labour pool increase bothers the common man?
You mean the below minimum wage labour pool or hard farm work labour pool that the average American won't even touch or think of participating in?
You're painting a picture of urban versus rural areas. It's an oversimplification of voter shifts and preferences. Small shifts in metro urban areas like like Philadephia, Detroit, Atlanta, Phoenix can shift elections in competitive states..

It's also an oversimplification that migrants move into U.S. cities. Many now live in suburbs and rural areas. Basically, you're saying many Americans oppose immigration even when their community is not impacted. First, it's very much elitist thinking. Second, immigration now impacts almost every community in the U.S.

I think we are all used to painting pictures. I used to call it Libsplaining. Perhaps you can splain where all these Latino Trump voters live.
 

Shaquille Oatmeal

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No not really. There is simply not enough demand for low-skilled workers like the early-1900s.
5% of your entire workforce is made up of undocumented immigrants.
So am unsure of that there is not enough demand.
It may be true, but I dont think there is a correlation between labour demand and arrivals of undocumented workers.
Meaning it isnt labour demand that is making these people come to the US illegally.
They just happen to take up those jobs as they cannot be employed anywhere else.
 

WyattEarp

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Majoritarianism is not good democracy.
Consensus democracy is.
Who determines what the consensus is? You and the progs on the forum?

Democracy is about a majority determining direction. If that direction is failing and unpopular, it is rejected by the people. It's simple. It doesn't require any preaching or philosophizing.
 

Shaquille Oatmeal

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You're painting a picture of urban versus rural areas. It's an oversimplification of voter shifts and preferences. Small shifts in metro urban areas like like Philadephia, Detroit, Atlanta, Phoenix can shift elections in competitive states..

It's also an oversimplification that migrants move into U.S. cities. Many now live in suburbs and rural areas. Basically, you're saying many Americans oppose immigration even when their community is not impacted. First, it's very much elitist thinking. Second, immigration now impacts almost every community in the U.S.

I think we are all used to painting pictures. I used to call it Libsplaining. Perhaps you can splain where all these Latino Trump voters live.
People often vote against their interests.
Just yesterday I posted a video of a latino Trump voter having his undocumented Venezuelan wife deported and him begging Trump on camera.
And what is elitist about stating that Americans oppose immigration not because they are directly impacted, but because of MAGA propaganda?
It is the truth.
Provide some numbers on how many Americans get to meet these migrants that are making their lives so difficult if you disagree.
 

WyattEarp

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Presumably he will say what he said in that other post.

"Similar to a few here, you have never been much for Democratic institutions and process. Voters aren't worth much unless they affirm your views of the world. You like to cling to legalistic treaties and process."

If the voters want Trump, the Constitution should be changed.
Oh Val. Don't answer for other members. It's unbecoming for relatively intelligent members.
 

WyattEarp

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Provide some numbers on how many Americans get to meet these migrants that are making their lives so difficult if you disagree.
How bout you come here and help me set-up a mixer?

So seriously. here I'll give you some examples. I am relatively affluent and so are many of my friends. Many of us speak at least a little Spanish. Many of us don't live far from hispanic immigrant communities. We eat in those communities. Occasionally, we shop in those communities. Some of us employ hispanic immigrants legally and get to understand their concerns.

The reality is the less affluent you are the more likely your neighborhood will be proximate to immigrant communities.

I however have affluent friends who are progressive in their voting. Many of them almost never leave their immediate community. Perhaps they go downtown for a concert or business. Their only contact with immigrants might be the person who does their landscaping or cleans their house.

It's ridiculous for you or me to generalize. However, your generalizations insult the intelligence of Americans. They also seem to be stuck in some time warp around 1965.

PS- Your post doesn't make much sense because there is no way to quantify interactions.
 

richaceg

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You cannot sweep under the rug what is visible.
For example hospitals being overwhelmed.
For example, mayor Eric Adams openly said that NYC couldn't handle migrants.
The mayor of Trenton, NJ said it too.
It was in the news.
Yet the people there voted blue.
It proves you wrong.
Lol it proved exactly my point...the blue cities don't care about illegal migrants...they coddled most of them...of course they're against Trump... the Battleground states proved I was right....LoL...
 
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Shaquille Oatmeal

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Lol it proved exactly my point...the blue cities don't care about illegal migrants...they coddled most of them...of course they're against Trump... the Battleground states proved I was right....LoL...
The battleground states dont have the migrants.
Which was my point that the majority of Americans dont even come into contact with migrants yet they are so anti-immigrant because they drank the MAGA koolaid.
 

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It doesn't make it right... cross legally or don't cross at all. if you cross the border illegally, it's a felony.
No. It's a breach of the immigration act. Not a felony.
 

mandrill

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The demographic time bomb is greatly exaggerated. It's very simple. You live longer. You work longer.

Canada probably was ahead of the U.S. on the curve that immigration has limitations in solving this issue. Again, it is simple. A larger population over 65 that is retired can be an inflationary catalyst. Trying to pay for this growing retired group with new immigrants also requires more housing, more food and more services. These immigrants aren't coming here to support the natives. They require certain things.

We've all heard about so called labor shortages and immigrants do work that natives won't do. Progressives generally have no faith in and/or limited understanding of free market dynamics. Let increasing wages tell us where there is an economic need for more immigration.

When there is wage pressure, you will be surprised how many sectors will find ways to increase productivity through investment in equipment and process. I suspect that higher immigration is one of the reasons for Canada's low productivity.
Surely if the immigrants are legal, then productivity increases, because immigrants acquire new skills and move up the job chain to better jobs and better wages????

The problem resides in the USA where the illegal farm workers are a permanent slave class that cannot move up the food chain.
 
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