Doug Ford - most corrupt Ontario PM in history - the list

Skoob

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I wonder how many of those are people waiting for suitable donor matches for transplants of some sorts. I'm sure that people dying of heart, lung and kidney failure make up a big chunk. I had a friend who died waiting for a lung.

As much as I dislike Ford, those are not the result of any of his policies.

I wouldn't be surprised if those were the single most type of surgery on those wait lists.
Just reminding you that Frankfooter pulls facts from his ass and/or biased sources to justify his shallow hatred for people he just doesn't like.
He hopes that people won't call him out on the misinformation he spreads. If they do, he puts them on ignore...proof of his deception tactics.

But you knew that already.
 

HungSowel

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It is not a distinction without a difference.

If I create a new tax (on top of taxes we already have) and then give you some of it back, is that the same as me just giving some of it back from existing taxes?

No it's not. And you would be foolish to think so.
The skoob from 2 weeks ago called you a fool, you better get an apology from him.
 
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HungSowel

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Just reminding you that Frankfooter pulls facts from his ass and/or biased sources to justify his shallow hatred for people he just doesn't like.
He hopes that people won't call him out on the misinformation he spreads. If they do, he puts them on ignore...proof of his deception tactics.

But you knew that already.
I don't insult people unless they insult me first. Usually I don't even do that as a initial response.
Care to argue on topic or just continue to fling insults?

Usually when people start insulting someone and changing the subject it's a clear sign they really have no argument and are trying to distract from that.

So?

Will you argue like an adult or just skip to the part where you offer me an apology and move on?

I'm offering you a choice...I'm not a monster.
You should offer frank an apology.
 

Skoob

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The skoob from 2 weeks ago called you a fool, you better get an apology from him.
Wow I didn't think I would stump you with such a simple question causing you to reply with something lacking clear communication of an opinion to defend your position.
Shame on me.

I'll remember to dumb things down for you next time.
 

HungSowel

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Wow I didn't think I would stump you with such a simple question causing you to reply with something lacking clear communication of an opinion to defend your position.
Shame on me.

I'll remember to dumb things down for you next time.
2 weeks ago you were arguing they were different, now you are arguing they are the same. I have said previously that you are just a collection of incoherent thoughts, you adopt whatever opinion is convenient to advance a narrative and then you pretend that you are playing 3d chess to cover up how foolish you are.

If you dumb things down some more, you would have your own event in the special Olympics.
 

Frankfooter

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Thanks for not disagreeing with my point.

A very, very large number of those as listed as dying waiting for surgery must be due to a dearth of suitable donors of hearts, lungs and kidneys.

Some people just are so intent on using hyperbole.
If you want to argue that its ok that people die waiting for surgery in Ontario, that's your call.
It would go along with your mantra, I suppose.
 

Skoob

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2 weeks ago you were arguing they were different, now you are arguing they are the same. I have said previously that you are just a collection of incoherent thoughts, you adopt whatever opinion is convenient to advance a narrative and then you pretend that you are playing 3d chess to cover up how foolish you are.

If you dumb things down some more, you would have your own event in the special Olympics.
It's not really my fault if you can't read...but instead just twist things to fit your narrative.
Go back and read my comments and come back when you have learned something.
 

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Between April 1, 2023 and March 31, 2024, new data from Ontario Health suggests 378 patients died while waiting for cardiac surgery or a cardiac procedure.
 
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Skoob

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Between April 1, 2023 and March 31, 2024, new data from Ontario Health suggests 378 patients died while waiting for cardiac surgery or a cardiac procedure.
That's misleading. You should include the context.

Recent data from Ontario Health suggests 378 people died 2023-24 while waiting for heart surgery or a cardiac procedure, he said. What’s not clear is “how many of those patients died because the system simply took too long,” Craig said.
https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/canadians-health-care-wait-list-deaths
 

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Between April 1, 2023 and March 31, 2024, new data from Ontario Health suggests 378 patients died while waiting for cardiac surgery or a cardiac procedure.
A very valid, informative and relevant statistic which points directly at the Ford administration. I, however would not want those that died waiting for a heart transplant included because there were no suitable donors included. That is a totally different situation that is not a result of government funding or lack thereof. The government cannot create biologically matching donors.
 
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