POS NATION has no intention of abiding by ceasefire

Klatuu

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Killing civilians and taking hostages, leading to the annihilation of Gaza with 45000 civilian deaths.
You may consider that good strategy.
But it has taken Palestine further away from materializing into a legitimate state.
What it was, was revenge.
Nothing more, nothing less.
No, the genocide was POS Nation’s strategy. I don’t consider that good strategy. It was revenge …nothing less. They will be paying the price for decades to come.

The Oct 7 operation was brilliant. Defeating and humiliating their racist and supremacist occupier in the space of one day.
 
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No, the genocide was POS Nation’s strategy. I don’t consider that good strategy. It was revenge …nothing less. They will be paying the price for decades to come.

The Oct 7 operation was brilliant. Defeating and humiliating their racist and supremacist occupier in the space of one day.
I agree that Israeli actions amount to revenge too.
Which is why I believe it is not good strategy on both sides.
And that there is going to be no actual resolution.
Atleast not until the likes of Netanyahu, Hamas etc are in power.
 
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Killing civilians and taking hostages, leading to the annihilation of Gaza with 45000 civilian deaths.
You may consider that good strategy.
But it has taken Palestine further away from materializing into a legitimate state.
What it was, was revenge.
Nothing more, nothing less.
It was never revenge for the Palestinians. It was always about liberation….from the river to the sea. The incredible resilience of Palestinians outrages and humiliates Israel. The genocide is theirs and theirs alone. Israel has never been weaker. The Palestinians are closer than ever to their liberation. They have a global movement that understands their plight and will stand by them. Israel will begin to unravel - its cherished and cultivated myths have been exposed
 
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Palestine has a right to exist as much as Israel does.
Both peoples exist whether anybody including themselves wants it or not.
And both sides have "pure evil".
Israel is not an innocent who "only retaliates" in this conflict.
They have directed plenty of atrocities and massacres towards the Palestinians just as much as the Palestinians have towards the Israelis.
If you had no skin in the game, either ethnically or religiously, like me, it is impossible to take sides.
You just have to acknowledge it is a messed up place, a messed up conflict that will never end.
There is no solution.
Although I agree with most of what you say here, I still see a difference in the desired outcomes. If Hamas were to control the entire region, Jews would not fare well (neither would Palestinians). Meanwhile Israel has essentially controlled the entire region since '67 and despite all the histrionics and a faction of Israelis who are racist, the Palestinian population has continued to grow and rights of Christians and Muslims are protected.

There are many Palestinians who would be perfectly happy with peace beside Israel but they aren't represented by any of the Palestinian leadership.
 

basketcase

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Trump did nothing here.
Apart from tweeting a childish threat on Truth Social.
His envoy was read in, and sat in on the negotiations because it is part of the transition.
Trump is not capable of resolving this conflict.
He has 2 brain cells.
He uses 1 to tweet and the other to yell into the camera.
Trump did send people to work with the Biden negotiation team. I suspect that between the carrots offered from Biden and Qatar, the threat of Trump's pro-Israel's views motivated Hamas to finally accept a deal essentially the same structure as the other peace plans they rejected.
 

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Until the Palis and their supporters are really able to cause substantial pain to Israel or the world wipes out Israels economy, there will be no peace. THis is another battle in a long war. There will be no peace. Just a pause in the killiing.
No mention of Palestinian leadership completely rejecting the idea of living alongside a Jewish majority state.
 

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trump, idiot that he is, is also going against AIPAC and cancelling the TikTok ban.

It does look like he's not scared of them the way most american politicians are.
Still blaming jews even though you well know that Christian zionists are the ones pulling the strings, while also claiming politicians are scared of Jews, just like that racist UN cunt.
 

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The first three are out and in good health, apparently one even had a birthday cake made during captivity.
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Kidnapped from her home, locked up underground for over a year but she got a cake? Her crime? Being a Jew living in Israel. And hamas is till holding two toddlers.

As for the 12 year old, I know Israel has locked up violent Palestinian youth for longer than Canada would but even here, violent 12 year olds are still held legally culpable for their crimes.
 

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The Lion of Gaza. He, and his military strategy, will be studied in every military college for the humiliation of the IDF going forward. Both on Oct 7 and until today. As was said earlier, Israel is to the siege of Gaza as the Germans were to the siege of Stalingrad.
Now I see why you have chosen not to post more than one or two words because here you are praising a terrorist who for an attack on civilians. And I'm sure many people in gaza are so happy living with Sinwar's 'heroics'.
 
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