I think the Haaretz articles might be more useful, even if they don't list the victims with the same details.
What has yet to be figured out is how many Israelis died on Oct 7 due to the Hannibal Directive.
Hamas will release 33 hostages
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What has yet to be figured out is how many Israelis died on Oct 7 due to the Hannibal Directive.
All ceasefire offers have been phased deals. There have been multiple articles showing Netanyahu and Ben Gvir bragging about being the ones that stopped ceasefire deals.
We know know that Biden could have stopped the genocide at any point but instead made Americans pay $40 billion or so to bomb civilians.
Now Israel is shitting bricks over the idea that the press may see what happened in Gaza.
I am for anything that stops the slaughter of inncents, but the crimes committed by Israel and the damage to its international image will remain.
No hostages have made any rape allegations thus far AFIK
Anyone who knows anything can read through the falsehoods of these details. If the baby was hit by a PALI rocket the entire body would be disinegrated and they woudl all be dead as they are contact fused RPGs. Tank rounds are armour piercing and typically fused to explode when they hit hard targets, so the round went right through, took off the head and did not explode if it did, none of them would have lived. Only injuries were likely from shrapnel of created by the shell passing through the house at very high speed.
Hallucinations caused by a lifetime of racist brainwashing
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If you figure the total at 1,222, including Jews, Israeli Palestinians and Bedouins along with foreign nationals, that died during the October 7 attack, minus the 803 listed as killed by Hamas, that leaves 419 that were most likely killed by the IDF.I think the Haaretz articles might be more useful, even if they don't list the victims with the same details.
What has yet to be figured out is how many Israelis died on Oct 7 due to the Hannibal Directive.
How many of those 419 were Israeli or other nationalities? Not a clue.
We do know that at 11.22 a.m., the IDF issued an order to its Gaza division that stated, “Not a single vehicle can return to Gaza.” A military source in Israel’s Southern Command said “Everyone knew by then that such vehicles could be carrying kidnapped civilians or soldiers … Everyone knew what it meant to not let any vehicles return to Gaza.”
Bluntly put the Hannibal Directive was issued.
Please post the source for this baby being beheaded by a tank round.
As I had posted, there is no evidence of this, the only mention of it is by a soldier who said he took a beheaded 10 month old from its mother in the Kibbutz Beeri.
Then Tweets saying it was beheaded by the IDF.
There was only one 10 month old killed in that area and was shot, not beheaded.
Also the investigation you say contains falsehoods in the details was done by the same organization investigating IDF crimes, yet you don't dispute the results in those investigations because they don't fit your narrative.
Much like when you say Putin invaded Ukraine because of NATO expansion, yet in Putins own words he says that was not the reason at all.
Also just an FYI, tank rounds are not all armor piercing, there are High explosive (he), smoke, High explosive squash head (hesh), High Explosive Fragmentation (HEF) among others.
A tank commander would not use an armor piercing round on a building, they would use a round designed for it.
‘Israeli citizens certainly don’t need enemies when they have the government of POS Nation as their friend. Imagine the outcry if Palestinians shot their own citizens as they were being kidnapped by the IDF.
Somehow POS Nation tries to portray murdering it’s own citizens as “sacred” A noble endeavor for a higher cause. What a shithole.
Yup imagine that.
https://www.amnesty.org/en/location...palestine-state-of/report-palestine-state-of/
On 8 April, members of a Palestinian armed group in Nablus city in the northern West Bank killed a man they suspected of working for Israeli surveillance, the first killing of an alleged “collaborator” in nearly 20 years. On 24 November, members of an armed group in Tulkarem refugee camp west of Nablus publicly killed two Palestinian men who they claimed were “collaborators”. Palestinian police made no arrests in either case.
In Gaza, armed men affiliated with Hamas rounded up approximately a dozen men on 21 November, alleging that they worked for Israeli forces, and summarily killed them.
https://www.jns.org/hamas-shooting-palestinians-seeking-to-flee-gaza-fighting/
https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/n...-killed-by-hamas-forces-during-2014-conflict/
https://www.adl.org/resources/news/hamas-killing-its-own-civilians
Its even less when you count the 400 or so of the dead on Oct 7 who were IDF. That means of the 800 or so civilians how many were really killed by Hamas and how many were killed by the IDF Apache and tank fire?
I do really hope there are full investigations on everything that has happened on both sides as much as I hope this genocide ends and we really start understanding 'never again'.
Once you start posting Amnesty you also have to accept the Amnesty reports that say Israel is apartheid, the occupation illegal and Israel is committing genocide.
Palestinians do kill those they claim are traitors the same way Israelis do and pretty much most countries in the world.
Same with Ukrainians.
There's no denying the thousands of palestinians that died since Oct 7 2023...People here act like Hamas has no hand in those deaths are delusional...You fuckers keep downplaying Oct 7. That triggered the shitstorm for Palestinians...Sinwar and Hamas knew exactly what they are doing and knew exactly what will happen to palestinians...get over it...they lost and now willing to offer ceasefire because when Trump sits on the iron throne, he will be defunding the UN and UNRWA...that's what he meant when he said "hell to pay"...without UN UNRWA. Hamas will be fucked way worst.
The world says Israel is illegally occupying Palestine and should end the occupation within a year.
Palestinians have been trying to get them to end the occupation for 76 years.
What do you think they should do?
Shut up and accept living in a concentration camp under apartheid rule or resist the occupation?
I believe that the accepted number of people killed by Hamas was 1,200.
Published by the US State Department 3 months ago.
Anniversary of October 7th Attack - United States Department of State
Today, we mark a devastating and tragic anniversary. On October 7, 2023, more than 1,200 men, women and children, including 46 Americans and citizens of more than 30 countries, were slaughtered by Hamas – the largest massacre of Jews since the Holocaust. Girls and women were sexually assaulted. The depravity of Hamas’s crimes is almost unspeakable.
Hamas also took 254 people hostage that day, including 12 Americans.
Israel did not kill their own people.
Do you trust ICC, ICJ and UN? Since you're championing the claims of apartheid and "illegal occupation". enough evidence of it should be submitted to ICC and ICJ to solve the problem in Gaza.
Do you support the Hamas actions and believe it will solve the problem in Gaza?
