It weakens Iran geopolitically and Iran is helping prop up Russia so there is some benefit in that respect.
The Syrian Fiasco… A Case of the “Empire First” Folly in Spades
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He obviously admires Jewish accomplishments in this realm as much their accomplishments in arts, science, finance and economics. They've clearly won a disproportionate amount of awards and accolades in terms of Oscars and Nobels despite being possibly 1% of the world population. Maybe AIPAC paid for those awards. Or maybe he's just jealous.
HTS/Al Qaeda is the Israeli/US preference. They've been sending them weapons and cash to get rid of Russia and Iran.
Total Afghanistan/Taliban move.
Which tweet did you "learn" that in?
Turkey gave some support to HTS but mostly their own proxy force. The US and Nato have been supporting Kurdish forces.
I think your mental health would benefit if you just admitted your main belief is in jewish conspiracies.
Are you completely unaware of what happened to the Soviet Union shortly after the end of their Afghanistan fiasco?
Are you completely unaware of what happened to the United States shortly after the end of the Soviet Union?
Timeline of al-Qaeda attacks - Wikipedia
en.m.wikipedia.org
Why do you think the US is delisting HTS as terrorists?
I know you only accept Israeli sources, so here, old news but same story.
IDF chief finally acknowledges that Israel supplied weapons to Syrian rebels
In interview with UK's Sunday Times, outgoing army commander Gadi Eisenkot says Israel gave opposition groups light arms 'for self-defense'
www.timesofisrael.com
So The US who has had HTS listed as a terror group was at the same time their big supporters and this proves Israel was behind it all? Shit man are you messed up.
I know you don't care but the US took HTS off the list because they how the reality of ruling will lead to HTS no longer behaving as terrorists.
p.s. I know you don't care about reality but the article you posted was about Israel giving some arms to opposition groups in the Golan which were primarily the secular former Army generals who opposed Assad. HTS and the Al Nursa/AQ predecessors were in Syria's north west.
One of these days you will figure out it's far easier to defend reality than it is your hate-filled world of lies.
You do know that the head of HTS was part of ISIS, don't you?
Is that why you back them?
The US only started backing them after they kicked out Assad, at least publicly. Up until then it was just Israel.
But now its going to be like Afghanistan, witch HTS/Al Qaeda working with Turkey instead of Syria with Russia.
So clever.
You are a real clown.
HTS are terrorists and the only reason the US will consider working them is to prevent Russia and Iran from reestablishing Syria as a base.
Turkey openly assisted HTS in their campaign but you don't even hint at considering their actions, just the way you refuse to consider Turkey occupying a significant part of Syria for years in their repression of Kurds (you know, ethnic cleansing and genocide).
It's funny to watch you though as you want to support HTS, ISIS, and AQ because they share your hatred of Israel but also want to criticize them because they oppose Iranian influence in the region.
You are admitting that Israel and the US work with terrorists.
Which makes Israel no better than Iran or Russia.
Except that Israel is busy getting the US to destroy the international courts on their behalf.
I think Turkey, Israel and CIA never expected Syria to fold like that. The goal of the attack was to weaken Assad and send him a mesaage. HTS are traditional allies of Hamas, Israel was happy to secrerly support them, expecting a great many to be killed by the SAA and Russia. Turkey as well wanted them honed down and to hopefully get Assad to the negotiating table. The USA wanted to weaken Assad so their base was more secure and they could spend less effort defending the Kurds. But lo and behold, Israel now has an even more radical group in Syria, more land to defend, potential mass refugee flows and Turkley now talking about restoring Ottoman control over Jerusalem. Syrian for all intents and purposes will degenrate into the darkest depravities of the previous war with ISIS and history and heritage will be most likley erased, as there there is no one to fight to Syria.
Israel plans long-term occupation of 'control zone' deep inside Syria
JAN 10, 2025
Israel plans to establish a “control zone” 15 kilometers deep inside Syria and an intelligence “sphere of influence” extending 60 kilometers, claiming the new government in Damascus includes “the most dangerous people in the world,” Ynet reported on 10 December.
“The Israeli army will maintain a presence to ensure that the new regime's allies in Syria cannot fire rockets toward the Golan Heights,” the officials told the Hebrew newspaper.
They stressed “the need for a 60-kilometer sphere of influence inside Syria under the control of Israeli intelligence to monitor and prevent potential threats from developing.”
Israel claims that the new Syrian government, led by the former Al-Qaeda affiliate in Syria, Hayat Tahrir al-Sham (HTS), poses a threat to Israel that is ignored by western countries.
“The west deliberately chooses to be blind and deal with the most dangerous people in the world, while the Arab world around us understands the threat and warns the west but refuses to listen,” an unnamed senior Israeli official told Ynet.
“No one can guarantee that they will not eventually turn against us, and these are very dangerous people,” the official added.
However, the Israeli government provided financial, military, and medical support to HTS in the past when the group was known as the Nusra Front.
Along with the US and other regional states, Israel sought to use extremist groups, including ISIS and the Nusra Front, to topple the Syrian government starting in 2011.
But Israeli officials now cite the presence in Damascus of HTS, led by former ISIS leader Ahmad al-Sharaa (previously known as Abu Mohammad al-Julani), as a reason to continue occupying Syrian land.
According to the officials, “Israel will have to remain there and ensure a missile-free zone 15 kilometers away under its control, in addition to a sphere of influence of 60 kilometers, to prevent threats from developing.”
The Israeli official also stressed that his country will not allow the presence of Hamas and Palestinian Islamic Jihad (PIJ) in Syria “just as it prevented a foothold for Iran there.”
Immediately after Sharaa and HTS captured Damascus on 8 December, Israel deployed its troops to occupy additional land in the occupied Syrian Golan Heights.
Israel illegally occupied parts of the Golan Heights during the Six-Day War in 1967. Israel and Syria signed a disengagement agreement after the October War in 1973, establishing a demilitarized buffer zone between the armed forces of both sides.
After the fall of the Syrian government on 8 December, Israel ordered its troops to occupy additional Syrian land beyond the buffer zone, including Mount Hermon, giving their army the strategic high ground overlooking both Syria and Lebanon.
thecradle.co
JAN 10, 2025
Israel plans to establish a “control zone” 15 kilometers deep inside Syria and an intelligence “sphere of influence” extending 60 kilometers, claiming the new government in Damascus includes “the most dangerous people in the world,” Ynet reported on 10 December.
“The Israeli army will maintain a presence to ensure that the new regime's allies in Syria cannot fire rockets toward the Golan Heights,” the officials told the Hebrew newspaper.
They stressed “the need for a 60-kilometer sphere of influence inside Syria under the control of Israeli intelligence to monitor and prevent potential threats from developing.”
Israel claims that the new Syrian government, led by the former Al-Qaeda affiliate in Syria, Hayat Tahrir al-Sham (HTS), poses a threat to Israel that is ignored by western countries.
“The west deliberately chooses to be blind and deal with the most dangerous people in the world, while the Arab world around us understands the threat and warns the west but refuses to listen,” an unnamed senior Israeli official told Ynet.
“No one can guarantee that they will not eventually turn against us, and these are very dangerous people,” the official added.
However, the Israeli government provided financial, military, and medical support to HTS in the past when the group was known as the Nusra Front.
Along with the US and other regional states, Israel sought to use extremist groups, including ISIS and the Nusra Front, to topple the Syrian government starting in 2011.
But Israeli officials now cite the presence in Damascus of HTS, led by former ISIS leader Ahmad al-Sharaa (previously known as Abu Mohammad al-Julani), as a reason to continue occupying Syrian land.
According to the officials, “Israel will have to remain there and ensure a missile-free zone 15 kilometers away under its control, in addition to a sphere of influence of 60 kilometers, to prevent threats from developing.”
The Israeli official also stressed that his country will not allow the presence of Hamas and Palestinian Islamic Jihad (PIJ) in Syria “just as it prevented a foothold for Iran there.”
Immediately after Sharaa and HTS captured Damascus on 8 December, Israel deployed its troops to occupy additional land in the occupied Syrian Golan Heights.
Israel illegally occupied parts of the Golan Heights during the Six-Day War in 1967. Israel and Syria signed a disengagement agreement after the October War in 1973, establishing a demilitarized buffer zone between the armed forces of both sides.
After the fall of the Syrian government on 8 December, Israel ordered its troops to occupy additional Syrian land beyond the buffer zone, including Mount Hermon, giving their army the strategic high ground overlooking both Syria and Lebanon.
Israel plans long-term occupation of 'control zone' deep inside Syria: Report
Israeli officials cite the existence of the new HTS extremist government as a pretext to occupy Syrian land
thecradle.co
Israel for some reason thinks they are safer with failed states surrounding them, or maybe its just that they think they can steal land from those failed states and gain more land occupied in Lebanon and Syria.
Israel has been pushing to overthrow Assad for 13 years. Now they get ISIS as their ally/neighbour and are trying to get the US to delist them as terrorists.
Such a win.
Its well known and published that Hamas was funded by Israel to overthrow Fatah in Gaza now. Even published in Israeli newspapers. When I first mentioned this most of the clowns on this board reacted the same way as when I said Ukraine has NO CHANCE of defeating Russia. Most people just suck in MSNBC and don't look any further.
